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Byte 10.26.2009 03:39 PM

I'm the unluckyest LST owner of the world...
 
I finally fixed the LST after it layed down in the corner a few weeks. So I went to the nearest track here, it's a track witch is actually made for 1:8 nitros, and most of them driving 1:8 nitros. So I thought I'm gonna pwn their nitro's even I got a huge monster truck.

I didn't drive ONE single round and a shaft in the driveaxle was broken. I got this thing for about a year now, and didn't drive ONE single battery through it. It always had some issues. I will list them:
- Hexes + Wheels stripped -> bought 14mm aluminium hexes, works fine
- Shaft in an axle broke -> bought new one
- Shaft in one of the middle axle broke -> bought new one
- Diff had some issues, had to get out the shims (only the rear one, front one was fine. Strange?) -> Also bought alu diff cups, works fine now
-> And today I broke the third shaft if an axle (It's the thrid one because they're all the same, just on different places)
- Stock body is crap -> have to buy a new one soon, even I didn't drive more than 10000 mAh through it.


Ok, so I didn't drive more than 10.000mAh through this car, and I had all these problems. I don't drive like an idiot, and I took the whole car apart, cleaned it and build it together again. (Bought it used) I've read that the LST is an awesome basher... Do I have bad luck or what? :diablo:
My setup is a Quark Airmaster 125B, Plettenberg Bigmaxximum and a Flightmax 5000mAh 30C LiPo. These electronics are AMAZING! I love them! But the car really dissappoints me. It's btw an LST1.


Today it was the first time in my life that I thought about selling the car and buy a Ofna E-buggy and pwn the nitro's. I'm really disappointed today... What should I do? Sell this thing and get a Ofna, or do I just have amazing bad luck? (I've read so many times a LST is such an amazing strong basher, but as you see, mine isn't)


EDIT: After I didn't drive one single round with the LST, I took the Rustler VXL. (This car is so amazing, I got it 2 years, always ran awesome) And also with that one, I didn't end up driving one single round. I'm so disappointed...

BrianG 10.26.2009 03:46 PM

Wow, sounds like the sort of continual "lemon" issues that I have with my Slash.

Bondonutz 10.26.2009 03:51 PM

Shiz happens dude, don't get discouraged because of a few small problems. I've worked all week on a truck befor to get it ready for the weekend and break it in 2 minutes
Shiz happens !
It's just one of those things that happens in this hobby, wrenching,driving,breaking,improving, breaking,wrenching, fixing, breaking, improving breaking on and on. It's the natural order of the hobby. No car,truck is bullet proof.
The axles are one of the weak points of the original LST, It was fine when nitro because of the soft bottom end of fuel motors,with BL and the instant snap is hard on ANY cvd's.
Maybe consider loosening the slipper a tick,should help.
If you want to add some stronger parts to your truck you can swap the arms,carriers,axles over to the LST2 drivetrain,it's a option that will increase durability.
Stick with it and be patient !

BrianG 10.26.2009 04:17 PM

Yeah, I agree that shiz happens, but it is nice to be able to go out and run the vehicle for a little while without something going wrong. After all, you spend $500+ on something, it would be nice to use it. In my case, the Slash is problematic like that. My other cars are pretty solid.

Byte 10.26.2009 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 329586)
Yeah, I agree that shiz happens, but it is nice to be able to go out and run the vehicle for a little while without something going wrong. After all, you spend $500+ on something, it would be nice to use it. In my case, the Slash is problematic like that. My other cars are pretty solid.

I read your thread about your Slash. Thats also very strange. A Slash is almost the same as a Rustler. (Driveline, shocks etc.) And I LOVE my Rustler, I run it on 3S LiPo with stock Velineon motor and a Quark ESC. I made jumps from 3+ meters high and 25+ meters far, driving 100+ km/h with it, crashing, bumping, everything! The only issues I had, in 2 years were the Shocks and a shaft in the drivetrain. (The shocks were my own fault, with those jumps I made)

The things which broke three times are these:
http://www.losi.com/Products/Feature...rodId=LOSB3505
and these are from the LST2. They look the same, but are different, or just got a different part number.
http://www.losi.com/Products/Feature...rodId=LOSB3523

I probably can't just buy the one for the LST2 and put them in my LST1, right? If I want those for the LST2 I have to buy the axles + driveshafts for a LST2 also, right?

shaunjohnson 10.26.2009 04:37 PM

this is what happens to traxxas vehicles :lol:
beef up one part, another weak part shows up, you just have to work your way through the driveline and beef it up all the way back to the motor.

Bondonutz 10.26.2009 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte (Post 329589)
I probably can't just buy the one for the LST2 and put them in my LST1, right? If I want those for the LST2 I have to buy the axles + driveshafts for a LST2 also, right?

You'll need all this;
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=LOSB2104
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=LOSB2106
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=LOSB2002
Plus the 4 HD drive axles and all the bearings for the carriers and pins.

I bought all the parts for one of my LST's on Ebay from 1 seller for $74.00 delivered, If your pateint it can happen.

Look at this link of a completed listing,see how cheap this stuff can be had for ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Team-Losi-XXL-Re...item56363b8b16

Nard Cox 10.26.2009 06:04 PM

Pat my man, sorry to hear/read all this, I knew you were exited to go to the tracks. I think that us hitting the tracks this week isn't gonna happen?

You know what, maybe I'll let you drive my Savvy Flux for some laps ;). Talk to ya soon.

Oyeah, as for the Rustler, buy some RPM arms and be done with it. I have some spare Rustler arms left in cause you want to drive in the mean time.

Byte 10.26.2009 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondonutz (Post 329595)
You'll need all this;
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=LOSB2104
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=LOSB2106
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=LOSB2002
Plus the 4 HD drive axles and all the bearings for the carriers and pins.

I bought all the parts for one of my LST's on Ebay from 1 seller for $74.00 delivered, If your pateint it can happen.

Look at this link of a completed listing,see how cheap this stuff can be had for ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Team-Losi-XXL-Re...item56363b8b16

I thought about the LST the whole day. I will:
- Buy all those things at that eBay store. (They always list new items)
- Make a new motor mount from 7075 aluminium. Is 1/4 inch good enough do you guys think?
- Make a new cool battery tray for it. The one I got now is crap


I'll go sleep now, this day was too frustating... Thanks for the help!


EDIT: @Nard, yes, I was damn excited, but I had very bad luck I think. Well, I would like to drive your Flux, but I think I will break something.

junkman 10.26.2009 07:26 PM

I think the lst2 axle assembly will help you tremendously. They are much beefier. What wheels/tires are you running on it, maybe that is adding some extra stress. I never really felt comfy running big ol 40 series an heavy tires. I have dropped down to some regular mt mulchers and am much happier with how it drives.

BrianG 10.26.2009 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaunjohnson (Post 329591)
this is what happens to traxxas vehicles :lol:
beef up one part, another weak part shows up, you just have to work your way through the driveline and beef it up all the way back to the motor.

Actually, my other Trx vehicles are really reliable. I have a Jato, 4-tec, and had a Revo (all nitro conversions). After a little while working out the kinks, they can take a serious beating. And if something does break, parts are easy to come by in any LHS.

gogglespaesano 10.26.2009 10:06 PM

Go to tdracingrc.com. He makes a bomber motor mount and a lot of other parts for conversions, all top notch.

Bondonutz 10.26.2009 10:29 PM

See posts #5,#6,#7,#13 and others for Dude mount approval, I honestly don't know if he delivers across the pond ?

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...st+motor+mount

Byte 10.27.2009 06:20 AM

I know his stuff. I got his 2-speed 5mm for my LST.
The motormount from him looks good, but it won't fit an Bigmaxx and I think it's a bit overprised.

I use the stock LST1 wheels/tyres.

@Bondo, If I buy those HD axles, I also need the LST2 hexes right? The LST1 hexes won't fit I think...

Bondonutz 10.27.2009 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte (Post 329702)
I know his stuff. I got his 2-speed 5mm for my LST.
The motormount from him looks good, but it won't fit an Bigmaxx and I think it's a bit overprised.

I use the stock LST1 wheels/tyres.

@Bondo, If I buy those HD axles, I also need the LST2 hexes right? The LST1 hexes won't fit I think...

The mount is expensive yes, but worth every penny due to being well made.
If it doesn't fit a Bigmaxx you should email him and ask, he might be able to accomodate ?
If you can make HD mount yourself as mentioned in a prior post of yours,do it ! Save some $$

LST2 17mm hubs
http://cgi.ebay.com/LOSI-LOSB3516-WH...item3ef4b31c62
20mm hubs,stock LST2
http://cgi.ebay.com/Team-Losi-LST-XX...item4a9ba96dd6
23mm hub that will fit LST2
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-CEN-GST-7-7-...item4838024b91

Byte 10.27.2009 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondonutz (Post 329709)
The mount is expensive yes, but worth every penny due to being well made.
If it doesn't fit a Bigmaxx you should email him and ask, he might be able to accomodate ?
If you can make HD mount yourself as mentioned in a prior post of yours,do it ! Save some $$

LST2 17mm hubs
http://cgi.ebay.com/LOSI-LOSB3516-WH...item3ef4b31c62
20mm hubs,stock LST2
http://cgi.ebay.com/Team-Losi-LST-XX...item4a9ba96dd6
23mm hub that will fit LST2
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-CEN-GST-7-7-...item4838024b91

Well, my LST wheels got 14mm hexes lol... I was looking at the LST Upgrading kit, in that kit there are LST2 rims. But will those LST2 rims fit my LST1 tyres? If not than I also have to buy new tyres... :whip:

Bondonutz 10.27.2009 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte (Post 329710)
Well, my LST wheels got 14mm hexes lol... I was looking at the LST Upgrading kit, in that kit there are LST2 rims. But will those LST2 rims fit my LST1 tyres? If not than I also have to buy new tyres... :whip:

I beleive they will !
I like the original LST tires, great grip and light.
Then shoot for the 20mm hubs

Byte 10.27.2009 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondonutz (Post 329711)
I beleive they will !
I like the original LST tires, great grip and light.
Then shoot for the 20mm hubs

Ok. Thank you for your help Bondonutz! :great:

drkdgglr 10.27.2009 09:25 AM

the bigmaxximum should fit the tdracing mount. according to this pic, the plet has a diameter of 43mm, 25mm spacing of the mounting holes which are m3.

http://www.plettenberg-motoren.com/t...ch/BigMaxx.gif

send him an email with the drawing of the motor. he might have to adjust the mount because of the 3mm flange. I had a flange on my neu 1521 and ruined the front cap. A new cap is one the way with the flange sanded off.

and he will ship over the pond...

lincpimp 10.27.2009 09:50 AM

Hay Bart, note the small 3mm tall 13mm diameter boss that sticks out by the motor, that will not fit the flat front of the tdr motor mount. After talking with tdr a few times I am sure he will make the necessary adjustments for byte if he asks nicely.

I feel your pain Byte. My aftershock(very similar to a lst1) sat for almost 1 year, brand new in the box before I converted it. Took it out and broke a rear tierod within 3 minutes. I was pissed. So I upgraded to the lst2 arms, knuckles, hubs and cvds. Losi does make a 14mm hex that fits the lst2 cdvs to allow you to use your lst1 wheels and tires. Personally prefer some 40 series wheels and tires with 23mm hexes.

The lst2 stuff is much better. If buying it all new, go with rpm arms, their lst2 shim kit, the stock lst2 rear hubs and front c hubs, and new era al front knuckles. That is the hot ticket for super bash strength.

drkdgglr 10.27.2009 09:55 AM

Hey James,

I mentioned the boss/flange thing in my post....
On his site he says he can do custom mounts if you give him the right dimensions:
Quote:

A manufacturers drawing is usually best if you can get one. I will try to make this mount work for your motor.
edit: the first run with my LST XXL sent my esc up in flames. shit happens I guess

lincpimp 10.27.2009 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drkdgglr (Post 329721)
Hey James,

I mentioned the boss/flange thing in my post....

HAHA, I guess reading comprehension is not my best quality!!!! And yes, stuff happens! I have broken alot of stuff, usually on new setups within the first few minutes of the maiden run!

drkdgglr 10.27.2009 10:28 AM

I understand, all those lady parts can easily get you distracted

lincpimp 10.27.2009 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drkdgglr (Post 329724)
I understand, all those lady parts can easily get you distracted

Yes they do, finally someone else feels my pain! I know that there is one lady part that distracts me the most, just can't quite put my finger on it... HAHAHA!!

BrianG 10.27.2009 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 329726)
... I know that there is one lady part that distracts me the most, just can't quite put my finger on it... HAHAHA!!

:lol:

Byte 10.27.2009 06:37 PM

Yes, I know he will make that if I will ask him. But it's a expensive motormount imo.

I just searched on LOSB0014, and found it the cheapest here:
http://www.ampdraw.com/product.php?u...roductid=10959
$110 dollar, 130 dollar with shipping to the Netherlands. Also saw it at AMain, but shipping is $45 dollar there!
I think Ill buy it there, or does somebody know where it's cheaper? (Bondonutz bought it for $75 dollar, but that was en eBay IIRC. Also searched on eBay but only found it for $140)

drkdgglr 10.28.2009 01:22 AM

Go to ebay and buy the parts from a chopshop. You'll save a lot of money....

ps. I think I have a spare set of new lst2 arms and maybe even some axles and 20mm hexes. I'll have a look if you're interested.

Byte 10.28.2009 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drkdgglr (Post 329839)
Go to ebay and buy the parts from a chopshop. You'll save a lot of money....

ps. I think I have a spare set of new lst2 arms and maybe even some axles and 20mm hexes. I'll have a look if you're interested.

Well, 84 euro with shipping to the Netherlands is not that much if you ask me. If I have to buy all things apart from a eBay shop, the costs of the parts will be cheaper, but the shipping costs will be so much that the total costs will be over 84 euro I think.

Just PM me the price of it, you don't have to look because if the price is too high for me you searched for nothing. (You know what I mean? My English is crap...) And did you already sold your Mini STE? My offer of 90 euro still applies. So if you changed your mind about the price... :whistle:

EDIT: Jennys RC store is a bit strange. If I click an old auction of the seller, above the item it says something like ''These items might interest you''. There are some auctions for LST2 arms, and they're all from Jennys RC store. But if I click on the ''Visit store:Jenny's RCSports'' I can't find those LST2 arms. Strange, isn't it?

drkdgglr 10.28.2009 07:00 AM

already sent you an email. The ste isn't for sale any more, I got my MMpro yesterday which fits nicely...


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