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Scoob 02.25.2006 09:27 AM

Thinking of building a bl Revo
 
What will I need? Is the Gorilla Max intended for this? If I bought the Gorilla max rolling chassis, could I then put Revo wheels, tires, and body on? Is it a direct fit? Iknow I need the BL motor and esc, radio, servo, ect. I'm thinking of going with dual Thunder Power TP8000 2S LI-PO packs.

What motor/esc would be recommended for this on 4s LI-PO?

Serum 02.25.2006 10:59 AM

Yeah, it's a 1:1 fit, with 4S lipo, you can take a 9920 or a mgm 16016 and a lehner 1940 or a wanderer XL can. (7 or 8 turns) (depends how deep your pockets are, and how much you want to invest)

maxxdude1234 02.25.2006 01:27 PM

A wanderer 8XL would give immense run times on this set up (45minutes+), and a 7XL would be a tad quicker, but with shorter run times.

Dafni 02.25.2006 02:56 PM

A stock revo body wont fit. The Gorilla conversion has a bit of an extension, app. 1 inch.

Scoob 02.25.2006 06:54 PM

Thanks for the replies.

What bodies will fit or, is it easy to make a Revo body fit?

45 minutes is even more than I need. Maybe I could go with TP6000s and save some money. I only need to make 20 minute mains. The 6000s can deliver 72 amps continuous. Is this enough current for a 7 or 8 XL?

tHANKS.

maxxdude1234 02.25.2006 07:09 PM

For racing you might not get 45minutes out of the 8000's, would probably be closer to 30minutes. Have you considered going with 6s lipo? This way you could run a higher turn motor (10XL), and a 10XL will draw less current than a 7/8XL - hence more runtime, and you can then get 4000-6000mah packs and still make the 20minute mains. This will also put less of a strain on the ESC, motor and also batts - 72amps is fine for a 10XL, but would be pushing it on a 7/8XL.

MetalMan 02.25.2006 08:12 PM

72amps cont. is plenty for even a 6XL. ~55amps continuous might be good to shoot for with a 7XL. 5s Lipo and lower gearing might be a better option - it would be more efficient.

coolhandcountry 02.25.2006 09:35 PM

I think a 5s would be a little better as well. It has a more power to your disposal. You can get a lower kv motor for less amp draw and run the same speed.

stampy 02.25.2006 11:06 PM

member people you dont have to match the cont. amps from the motor to the pack :018:

MetalMan 02.25.2006 11:29 PM

Right! That amp rating on the motors is not relevant to anything really.

coolhandcountry 02.25.2006 11:46 PM

I never said to match up. I just think a 5s or 6s system would be better than a 4s system. Has the higher voltage so you can get a higher efficency out of it. 6s on a 10xl wit ha 4ooo lipo would go 20 min main with great power.

Scoob 02.26.2006 08:44 AM

So a 7 or 8xl would be a good choice for 4s and 10xl for 6s? How would a 7xl/4s compare to a nitro Revo, performance wise?

I'm going to have to ask around and make sure these guys would let me race with them before I start this project. It's a bit too much money for a bashing "toy". I want to be able to race it and make the longest mains, which at my tracks are only 20 min.

I would prefer to stay with the ThunderPower packs because I get a good deal on them and I've had excellent performance from these in a stadium truck class I race. I just trust them and KNOW that they'll give great performance. Maybe two 3S 6000 packs wired in series for 22.2V would work nicely. It would be pushing the 9920 very clos eto its' voltage limit though.

I don't know, I think I may stay 4S to save money. It's going to be pretty expensive for me as it is.

I'm still just kicking the idea around but I'm leaning towards going ahead and doing it, provided I can race it.


Thanks for the help guys.

coolhandcountry 02.26.2006 09:03 AM

Okay on kicking the idea. I thought the thunder packs had the 4000 mah. You can get the 2 x 3s 4000 for a 6s combo. the lower mah helps drop the price some to. Just to help kick the idea some.

Scoob 02.26.2006 09:34 AM

Thanks Coolhandcountry


I'd just be a little concerned about the 4000 making runtime. 4000 mah in a 20 minute main, It'd have to draw only 200mah per minute. If my calcualtions are right that would only be pulling 266 watts at a 12 amp average draw! Seems low for such a big truck moving at high speed.

That's not including a warm up lap or two that I'd like to be able to make and the fact that I'd need to make 20 and change. Hmmmm Decisions:002:

Maybe I should just look at the Maxamps 6000mah 3S packs. They're only $119.99.

coolhandcountry 02.26.2006 10:30 AM

Well a 9xl on gp3700 I can run for 25-30 mins on 18cells.

maxxdude1234 02.26.2006 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoob
Maybe I should just look at the Maxamps 6000mah 3S packs. They're only $119.99.

Thats a pretty good deal TBH, and its much cheaper than the 2s2p 8000mah packs. It's not voltage that damages controllers, its current. You stand a bigger risk damaging your controller with 4s lipo and a hotter motor, than you do with 6s and a high turn motor.

With 6Ah of charge in those packs you will have absolutely know problem doing a couple of warm up laps, followed by a 20minute main, followed by a couple of victory laps (after you smoke those nitros) :D:D:D

coolhandcountry 02.26.2006 12:41 PM

6s on a 9xl motor would run a warm up lap 5 min qualifier with a main.

MetalMan 02.26.2006 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxxdude1234
Thats a pretty good deal TBH, and its much cheaper than the 2s2p 8000mah packs. It's not voltage that damages controllers, its current. You stand a bigger risk damaging your controller with 4s lipo and a hotter motor, than you do with 6s and a high turn motor.

With 6Ah of charge in those packs you will have absolutely know problem doing a couple of warm up laps, followed by a 20minute main, followed by a couple of victory laps (after you smoke those nitros) :D:D:D

Current, eh? High voltage could actually be more likely to kill a controller than high amps, since these controllers usually have thermal shutdowns caused by the heat produced when a lot of current is drawn. High voltage can actually damage the components, and that is a huge reason why there are capacitors on the input of controllers like the Warriors and MGMs.

maxxdude1234 02.26.2006 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalMan
Current, eh? High voltage could actually be more likely to kill a controller than high amps, since these controllers usually have thermal shutdowns caused by the heat produced when a lot of current is drawn. High voltage can actually damage the components, and that is a huge reason why there are capacitors on the input of controllers like the Warriors and MGMs.

I stand corrected....

Still you wouldn't want your controller to thermal in the middle of a 20minute main.

crazyjr 02.26.2006 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolhandcountry
Okay on kicking the idea. I thought the thunder packs had the 4000 mah. You can get the 2 x 3s 4000 for a 6s combo. the lower mah helps drop the price some to. Just to help kick the idea some.


Coolhand, the thunderpower pack can be got in 8000 mah size

squeeforever 02.26.2006 05:44 PM

crazy, i wouldnt even think about getting that big of a thunder power pack because there made of 2000mah cells. the 8000mah packs are HUGE!

Scoob 02.26.2006 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever
crazy, i wouldnt even think about getting that big of a thunder power pack because there made of 2000mah cells. the 8000mah packs are HUGE!

A 3S TP8000 would be huge for sure. I think the max amps is the way to go for a 6S system after looking at it. They are cheaper I'm thinking because they are 10C packs VS. 12C for the TP but a 10C 6000 can still give 60 amps so that should be plenty without working them too hard.

So BK 9920, dual Max Amps 3S 6000s, Wanderer 10XL. Does this sound good?
$520 for all. Then $550 for G maxx plus wheels, tires, body, radio, and a high-torque servo. I'm probably looking at $1400.

squeeforever 02.26.2006 06:20 PM

yea. thats exactly what im going to be running. i already have a converted revo with a 10xl on 16 cells, soon to be 6s lipo, and soon after a g2r with a center diff.

coolhandcountry 02.26.2006 07:36 PM

Yeah that sounds great scoob. You get it going I have to drive down and watch it run.


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