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Mad Cow 02.25.2006 12:43 PM

Cheap brusless system from E-maxx
 
What is a good, cheap brusless system for an E-maxx? I don't want anything crazy fast, around the speed of an hv-maxx.

squeeforever 02.25.2006 01:19 PM

the hv....anything else will be "crazy fast" compared to the hv. how many cells? what kind of speed are you looking for? how much are you willing to spend?

Mad Cow 02.25.2006 01:46 PM

12 cells, the most I wanna spend is around $250, preferably using ebay.

squeeforever 02.25.2006 02:21 PM

i think the 9920 and a feigao 9xl will be right up your ally. you can also increase cell count up to 20+ cells if you want more speed. i would exstimate about 35ish mph and great runtimes although it will cost more like 290 and i would also recommend the rcm heatsink/clamp. the clamp will keep the end of the can from popping and ruining your motor. its well worth it.

captain harlock 02.25.2006 02:23 PM

12s wanderer + 7020 BK Warrior e.s.c= moderate, satisfying speed with enough torque and a very reasonable price. A 10 or 11 turn s version would give you cool speeds, but gearing and amp drawing might need some revising.

Mad Cow 02.25.2006 02:56 PM

How about that cheapest brushless system that can move an e-maxx?

squeeforever 02.25.2006 03:08 PM

probably the one captain suggested but i would watch temps.

Serum 02.25.2006 03:30 PM

Those cheap 70 dollar controllers of ebay are no good, they are likely to burn..

if you've got 250 dollars to spent, i would take a 7020 and a 12L. Nice and smooth, and it will have got a tad more power than the HVmaxx Or just get a HVmaxx, perhaps ncabz is willing to sell his.

nbcaznmaster 02.25.2006 03:44 PM

lol, i sold mine a while ago! I regret that now cuz i got no bl systems :(

bigabike 02.25.2006 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Cow
What is a good, cheap brusless system for an E-maxx? I don't want anything crazy fast, around the speed of an hv-maxx.

There is no such thing. As soon as you upgade to brushless, you will need to upgrade many more parts.

Have you tried the Titans w/ good 7 cell packs? If no, try that first. If it is too slow, start saving your money and keep reading these forums!

You may want to read this one

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2264

Good luck bro.

coolhandcountry 02.25.2006 06:05 PM

A 7020 and a 14L works great together. You will need cvds and steel idler gears. I have ran the 14l and 7020 combo. I had 14cells on it though. It had more umph than the hvmaxx. I would consider the step up serum said. a 12 L or 13L. The 7020 would support you good to. You would still have the options of stepping up on cells to. The 14L will run on 18 no problems.

squeeforever 02.25.2006 06:14 PM

i would spend the extra few dollars on the xl. like a 9 or 10xl.

Serum 02.25.2006 06:56 PM

He said he wanted it to be as fast as the hv-maxx. it's not all about crazy insane BL setups squee..

squeeforever 02.25.2006 10:40 PM

a 10xl on 12 cells NOT is "a crazy insane BL setup". its moderately fast. 35ish mph. not going to set any blistering world records with that setup...

Serum 02.26.2006 04:21 AM

Still faster than an hvmaxx, you have to admit.. and it is possible to reach the 45 mph with that motor. (on 12 cells)

captain harlock 02.26.2006 07:07 AM

You guys are going over the limits. In the past, people used to run Hacker B50 7s motors in their maxxes with high speeds. Why would he even go for an L size motor?!! You want something as fast as a HV or only a friction faster than the HV, the S motors from 8,9 turns ( with a 9920 and a small pinion- they run hotter) to the 10,11,12 motors with the 7020 e.s.c and standard gear ratio are the cheapest and the most affordable everywhere. The L and XL are made for high torque and for me in a stock maxx, they look more like an overkill motors. If you dont want to upgrade anything in your maxx and you want to drive it with joy, just get the 12s and 7020 setup and I promise that you wont regret it. If you want to upgrade your truck, thats a whole different story. My appologies for the long reply.

Serum 02.26.2006 07:11 AM

It's a decent reply Captain, i agree with you on the size of the motor, but you must remember that those old time setups caused certain problems, such as heat.

I am going to drop my 8S in my stock maxx in one of these days, on 3S lipo and see how it performs. (with small komodo tires)

In fact.. what am i doing behind the computer, i need to get of my bum..

coolhandcountry 02.26.2006 09:20 AM

I would say a basic xl but it would been over budget. Put a xl 2000 or 2400 on 12 cells would be faster and more power than the hv maxx. The hv maxx would break stuff in the maxx captian. For that fact I have seen the titans break stuff up. I just think the maxx could be a little tougher from the factory. I don't have experence with the s cans. A 14l on 12 cells is not extremely torque for you are in the low cell count of the motor. With the low amp draw it has and low voltage it is not putting out the wattage of other systems. 14 L on the stock gearing and 12 or 14 cells would run longer and have decent power. Has no problem on a 7020 either.

squeeforever 02.26.2006 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
It's a decent reply Captain, i agree with you on the size of the motor, but you must remember that those old time setups caused certain problems, such as heat.

I am going to drop my 8S in my stock maxx in one of these days, on 3S lipo and see how it performs. (with small komodo tires)

In fact.. what am i doing behind the computer, i need to get of my bum..

thats why i suggested a low kv xl motor. no heat issues, he can gear higher or lower depending if he wants more or less speed and more or less torque, he can go up in cell count easily without the motor getting hot, ect.....

Serum 02.26.2006 11:55 AM

in my opinion an S/L series with a low KV is closer in comparison to a hvmaxx than an XL, and that's the point. and the question of the topicstarter.

captain harlock 02.26.2006 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolhandcountry
I would say a basic xl but it would been over budget. Put a xl 2000 or 2400 on 12 cells would be faster and more power than the hv maxx. The hv maxx would break stuff in the maxx captian. For that fact I have seen the titans break stuff up. I just think the maxx could be a little tougher from the factory. I don't have experence with the s cans. A 14l on 12 cells is not extremely torque for you are in the low cell count of the motor. With the low amp draw it has and low voltage it is not putting out the wattage of other systems. 14 L on the stock gearing and 12 or 14 cells would run longer and have decent power. Has no problem on a 7020 either.

It all depends on the delicacy of the user, coolhandcountry. And from what I've understood from Mad Cow is that he is a basher and not a racer. Bashers dont pull their systems( moderate bashers, such as me, that is) to it's brink most of the times. If you drive your truck for joy, that means you are going easy on your truck or car, IMHO, though you can break the whole truck in a couple of runs, even with the titans if you have that sensation of pulling the poor truck to its demise. I'm just expressing my ideas, here, and I'm not trying to impose my notions upon you, guys. I hope it does not sound like a lecture.:dft009:

Mad Cow 02.26.2006 03:12 PM

How about this combo? http://www.mtroniks.net/mtroniks_SC_...ubCategoryID=6 The Genisis truck combo. Has anyone tried this?

squeeforever 02.26.2006 03:26 PM

i thought that you wanted something with about the speed of the hv?!? that motor will put you around 55mph...or 80kph according to mtronics... (55 was just a guess)

MetalMan 02.26.2006 04:35 PM

The motor is a Feigao 8L. It'd blow a HV-Maxx away...

Serum 02.26.2006 04:36 PM

it can turn circles around it..

start collecting money for drivetrain upgrades.. :)

Mad Cow 02.26.2006 05:27 PM

The thing I like about it is that it's in my price range. If I buy a motor and ESC seperatly it'll probably cost more.

EDIT: I see no way to buy from the site. How would I buy it?

coolhandcountry 02.26.2006 07:45 PM

esc for 150 and motor for about 85 should be in the budget.

boss 302 02.26.2006 09:39 PM

then add in the price of drivetrain upgrades

coolhandcountry 02.26.2006 10:23 PM

Well with a stock emaxx it is not much that holds up to power with out some kind of upgrade. It may not be major but still upgrades. steel idlers and cvds is likea must. Even for a hv maxx or titans.


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