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The Dan 11.07.2009 10:49 PM

Mamba Max on 5S in a truggy?
 
I've been dying to breathe life into my rolling RC8T for weeks now, but I'm on a budget. I've got a venerable old MM ESC lying in wait for it's next assignment, complete with a fan and Castle BEC. It never let me down running 4S in my buggies, so I'm thinking about slapping a Feigao 10XL (~1700kv, 66A) behind it and running Zippy 5S packs. Have any of y'all played with running a MM on 5S before? In theory it should work without problems, having even less amperage to heat it up. Just wanting to ask the experts. :yes:

magman 11.07.2009 10:56 PM

The newer mm I believe will not handle 5s w/out some serious mods. and even then it was having trouble arming. Hence the reason for the mmpro which can do up to 6s and has the same basic foot print as the mm.

Snipin_Willy 11.07.2009 11:09 PM

Depends greatly on which variation of MM you have. Check the caps; if you see they are 25v cap then I wouldn't try it.

jas21373 11.08.2009 02:13 AM

yeh mate ,I've had mine on 5s for a long while and have mates also running 5s with the MM esc ,just uprade the wires to 12g wet noodle,should be sweet then.

Matthew_Armeni 11.08.2009 04:07 AM

If you're using motor brakes 5s is the highest I'd go due to voltage spikes. I'd also add some extra caps to be safe and a fan. If you run mechanical brakes, 6s will work on the MM with just a fan. An external BEC is a must of course on both.

suicideneil 11.08.2009 06:30 AM

MM is not spec'd for 4s, let alone 6s; anyone running 6s is walking on water, if you know what I mean.

Do it right, buy the MMpro.

jas21373 11.08.2009 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthew_Armeni (Post 331730)
If you're using motor brakes 5s is the highest I'd go due to voltage spikes. I'd also add some extra caps to be safe and a fan. If you run mechanical brakes, 6s will work on the MM with just a fan. An external BEC is a must of course on both.

I've try 6s on a MM ,it doesn't except the voltage.......wan't start up

sikeston34m 11.08.2009 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 331731)
MM is not spec'd for 4s, let alone 6s; anyone running 6s is walking on water, if you know what I mean.

Do it right, buy the MMpro.

+1 on this.

I have the MM Pro and couldn't be happier with it. It already has a fan, and is smooth as butter.

If you ever have the desire to run a sensored motor, the MM Pro can do that too. :yes:

The Dan 11.08.2009 05:28 PM

Thanks for the input, guys. :yipi:

nitrostarter 11.08.2009 07:35 PM

Why not get a MMM and be done with it?

The Dan 11.08.2009 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 331800)
Why not get a MMM and be done with it?

Because I'm on a budget, and I have more faith in my trusty MM than a MMM. Although now that I've thought about it more, I'm pretty much settled on a 4S/8XL setup rather than a 5S. I ran 4S/8XL in my old E-Revo and it was cheap awesomeness.

My MM has the 25v caps.

fastbaja5b 11.08.2009 08:55 PM

Mamba Max is a 3s ESC

running it on 5s =

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c..._time_bomb.jpg

Unsullied_Spy 11.09.2009 02:47 AM

4s is fine, but 5s is begging for trouble IMO. +1 for the MM Pro, they seem solid and are built to handle the voltage.

jsr 11.10.2009 02:24 AM

I had a MM with external BEC on 4s in my truggy and it got HOT quick, even with a 40mm fan on it and another 90mm fan above it. I wouldn't run it over 4s. MM on 3s or 4s in a buggy is great, on a truggy, it can be tough on that little ESC. If you can keep it cool, then it will work fine on 4s. The problem is keeping it cool.

jas21373 11.10.2009 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dan (Post 331817)
Because I'm on a budget, and I have more faith in my trusty MM than a MMM. Although now that I've thought about it more, I'm pretty much settled on a 4S/8XL setup rather than a 5S. I ran 4S/8XL in my old E-Revo and it was cheap awesomeness.

My MM has the 25v caps.

that would be the same as the ones I got ,Ive got the MM in both my Emaxx ,and my Hyper ST truggy.Both trucks run Medusa 2000kv motors 70mm and 80mm,the Hyper is geared 16/48 and the Emaxx 23/58 ,Emaxx runs
4s 4900mah and my truggy is on 4s 6500mah for track work and 5s 4900mah for bashing,both speedies have BEC's and 25mm fans on top.

I've never had any issues with either MM speedy(maybe I got two good ones..????),I also own a MMM V3 speedy on a 6s powered 1/8 onroad.

My advice to you is Just DO it, But keep an eye on your temps.........Fieagos run hot ,Why not look for a secondhand Medusa????

tkhoo 11.10.2009 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jas21373 (Post 332119)

My advice to you is Just DO it, But keep an eye on your temps.........Fieagos run hot ,Why not look for a secondhand Medusa????

Hi, may I know if the Feigao 9L run ~160F on a crt.5 do it consider HOT? Thanks.

jas21373 11.10.2009 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tkhoo (Post 332133)
Hi, may I know if the Feigao 9L run ~160F on a crt.5 do it consider HOT? Thanks.

I would consider that hot (160F=71C) ,my first conversion was with feigao 10xl and it cooked it self at at around the 180F/82C mark ,my Medusa's only see about 100/110F/38C-45C

hey mate you may want to start your own thread ,there's plenty of guys on here that have a lot of experience that can help you .

jas21373 11.10.2009 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastbaja5b (Post 331818)
Mamba Max is a 3s ESC

running it on 5s =

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c..._time_bomb.jpg

my MM's have had 50+ 5s packs put through them ,geared right they have never failed me

tkhoo 11.10.2009 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jas21373 (Post 332138)
I would consider that hot (160F=71C) ,my first conversion was with feigao 10xl and it cooked it self at at around the 180F/82C mark ,my Medusa's only see about 100/110F/38C-45C

hey mate you may want to start your own thread ,there's plenty of guys on here that have a lot of experience that can help you .

alright mate :lol::lol: and thanks

coolhandcountry 11.10.2009 10:44 AM

160 sounds warm but not overly hot.

I hope it is kind of warm outside for these temps.

The Dan 11.10.2009 05:58 PM

Maybe I should just do it, since this thread is generating some good debate on whether or not it will work. Problem is, I'm a cheapass and don't wanna spend $50 on a Zippy 5S pack. :lol:

I may end up just going with 4S/8XL. That worked well in my old E-Revo. Sure, the motor runs hot, but that's what my leftover HV heat sink is for. And I already have four 2S packs to play with. :yipi:

jsr 11.10.2009 10:10 PM

I think an 8XL on 4s would run fine. Just don't gear for too high a speed to keep your MM from cooking. Get dedicated fans for both the motor and ESC. Keeping the motor cooler will help keep the ESC cooler also. I ran my MM with a 6XL on 4s...much higher rpm. Great power and speed, but both ESC and motor got hot quick. Running it on 3s and not gearing it too aggressively would've probably kept it a decently running setup (not too hot). Good luck and have fun.


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