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bonescro 02.28.2006 01:52 AM

MGM Compro 16016
 
Hello, all !

I just received my new MGM Compro 16016, and I have a question for y'all, but for Mike specifically. I have version 2.31, and the case has no polarity markings for the voltage supply. The manual has a picture of five yellow wires, and no polarity markings. I found this link http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/atta...0&d=1123892667
on this forum, and inspected it, and I saw the picture of your E-Maxx, and it looks like, viewed with the capacitors at the bottom, that positive is on the left. I just wanted to make sure before I smoked that sucka. What gives me pause is that there is a short bus wire that attaches to what looks like a grounding plate on a circuit board, and that bus wire is connected to (what the diagram shows as) the positive terminal.

Also, I just replaced a Hacker Master controller that kept hitting thermals on my E-Maxx, but I'm sure that it would work, without issues, with my HPI RS4 Sport 2. What Feigao motor would you recommend with that car?

Thanks.

squeeforever 02.28.2006 01:50 PM

im pretty sure that the positive (like the picture) is on the left. also, how many cells would you be running? if 6 i would go for the feigao 380c 7t.

coolhandcountry 02.28.2006 02:45 PM

I know it is a few on here that runs this esc. I do know the mt enthuesiast runs this esc for sure. You may pm him and see for sure. I think squee is right.

bonescro 02.28.2006 04:56 PM

Help
 
OK. Everything is wired up and mounted.

Polarity is correct: Grisa replied with the info.

Here's my setup:

E-Maxx
Airtronics MX3
Feigao 540-8L
Battery pack (red wire removed on BEC)
2x6 Pro-Match IB3800 matched packs

When I power it up (with the throttle on high), after 5 seconds I get continuous beeping. I assume that moving the switch to the yellow side of the switch turns it on (although, my common sense tells me that the switch is making contact in the other direction - I read on another forum that MGM controllers break a kill circuit to turn the controller on - ?). No matter how I try it, I still get the beeps. The rest of the system works fine, and I have tried it with and without the BEC, getting identical results. I have also tried powering it up in reverse, same thing.

What's the secret here?

Thanks!

squeeforever 02.28.2006 08:24 PM

have you programmed it? also, im pretty sure that the switch is just for the internal bec so as not to run your batteries down.

MetalMan 02.28.2006 10:09 PM

The switch is reversed from standard switches - if you cut it off and connect the wires from it together, the controller is off.

Continuous beeping usually means no radio signal. Are you sure it is plugged into the RX correctly? It could also mean incorrect cell count, which would be accounted for in the programming.

bonescro 03.01.2006 03:43 AM

I cannot even get to the point of programming it. I get the beeping only.

There is a radio signal. The servos work just fine.

I wonder if my radio's 70/30 design has anything to do with it. Most of the newer ones are 70/30, and some of the old ESCs required it to be 50/50, which the MX3 does not have.

Tomorrow, I'm going to try to get it into programming mode with my airplane transmitter. I may be able to select car mode then. Who knows.

My cell count is 12. The ESC can handle 6-16. It runs just fine using my Hacker Master Comp ESC, so I know the motor is fine.

In fact, I used the truck Sunday. I only upgraded to the MGM because, although the Hacker specs state 12 cells, I know it only runs safely up to 8 cells. I got sick of the thermals.

I sent an email to MGM. I'm sure there is something simple about it. I have experience with numerous brushless setups, from the old Lehner Warrior 9910 to all of my Castles and Hackers for my planes, and at least two Master Comps, and this is the first time that I've had problems.

MetalMan 03.01.2006 09:32 AM

The MX-3 works on the MGM controllers. Physically, it has a 70/30 design (and that's adjustable via a screw), but electronically it is 50/50. This is an interesting problem, and I'm interested in hearing what MGM has to say about it.

RC-Monster Mike 03.01.2006 12:44 PM

Metalman is correct on the continuous beeping. It is an error code. You shouldn't have any trouble with the mx3, either. Try the "reset" procedure and then move on to programming. This will set the controller to its initial settings(should already be there, but I have experienced this same beeping error code and did the reset procedure to clear it out). Let me know how it works.

bonescro 03.01.2006 01:31 PM

OK.

If you're talking about 'EASY return to default settings', then that doesn't work, either. Unless there's some magic little button hidden somewhere, or some strange procedure that can be done without powering up, I'm out of luck. As I stated before, no matter what I do, BEC / no BEC, throttle up / back, throttle normal / reversed, I get beeping after five seconds. Straight error code.

I have since tried it with my Airtronics RD8000, and three other receivers with my MX-3, and I still have no luck.

Looks like I'm about to do some shipping (and waiting).

crud.

RC-Monster Mike 03.01.2006 01:44 PM

Is your throttle channel reversed? This can sometimes cause programming issues.

bonescro 03.01.2006 01:47 PM

I tried it both ways.

GriffinRU 03.01.2006 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bonescro
I tried it both ways.

I have the same ESC with MX3, works great.

Which error code you get?

Artur

bonescro 03.02.2006 03:45 AM

The first error code.

It won't do anything else, regardless of any change of setup/configuration.
I'm about to hang it all up and by a Lehner.

coolhandcountry 03.02.2006 07:01 AM

You do have the esc plugged right in to the receiver. Make sure it is all the way in as well.

bonescro 03.02.2006 12:07 PM

Yes, I do have it plugged into the receiver.
Yes, it is plugged all the way in.

bonescro 03.02.2006 12:10 PM

Everyone:

Thank you for your help.

I'm sending this halfway across the world.

I didn't even get to run this for two seconds.

This totally blows.

coolhandcountry 03.02.2006 04:22 PM

I was refering to the right way. It is not hard to hook it up backwards.

GriffinRU 03.02.2006 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bonescro
Everyone:

Thank you for your help.

I'm sending this halfway across the world.

I didn't even get to run this for two seconds.

This totally blows.

Well, you give up pretty quick...

But MGM's turn-around super fast! :)

Artur

MetalMan 03.02.2006 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GriffinRU
Well, you give up pretty quick...

But MGM's turn-around super fast! :)

Artur

There have been mixed reviews on the issue of MGM's "speed" of service. For me, it was 6 months before I saw anything from them, and they never replied to a single one of the 15+ emails that I sent them during that period.

bonescro 03.10.2006 02:37 PM

Mike: I received my 12016 today and programmed it. It works fine. I like the freewheel option. Henry will give it the full workout on Monday.
By testing it in my yard, I found that I like it a lot.

The 16016 is on its way to The Czech Republic.

I cannot wait to use that 5408S on my RS4 Sport 2. Of course, I'm using an Orion Revolution V2 13x2 on it now. Fast, but not fast enough. It's gonna scream.

RC-Monster Mike 03.12.2006 10:57 AM

Cool. LMK if you want me to drop MGM aline to keep the focused on a speedy return for your 16016. :)

bonescro 03.16.2006 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GriffinRU
Well, you give up pretty quick...

But MGM's turn-around super fast! :)

Artur


Actually, I think spending three days messing with something that I have a LOT of experience with is sticking with it a little TOO long.
Believe me, I tried everything. I wasn't just going to send it to Europe without exhausting every possibility.

bonescro 03.16.2006 12:03 PM

Well, Henry gave the 12016 a serious workout.

Let me say that this is a very good speed controller. It took awhile to get it programmed, but I like the features. I set it up the way I wanted, then I let it automatically program itself. After its first run, I shut it down and restarted it. The settings were still there, but it had adjusted itself perfectly.

This thing ran until the batteries (Pro-Match IB3800s) gave out. No thermals. Not even very hot. It kept taking abuse all day. I am very impressed.

When my 16020 returns, I'll test it once, then shelve it as a backup. The 12016 is more than enough for my 13-pound E-Maxx with 7" tires.

bonescro 03.22.2006 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike
Cool. LMK if you want me to drop MGM aline to keep the focused on a speedy return for your 16016. :)


Thanks, Mike.

That would be nice. It's been two weeks since I sent it, and I asked for them to email me when they received it. Could you look into it for me?

Thanks,

Ron

gbekris 05.06.2007 08:47 AM

I have just experienced the same problem.
 
Was there a quick fix to this or did it have to go over to MGM.
Exactly what you described here, just happened to my 16016!

Guys, I have an 16016 Compro - its only 3 days old.
It programmed ok, gave it a test run on the bench only to find that it shut off after a couple of squirts of the throttle. No smoke or anything out of the ordinary. Though on repowering/reconnecting a pack I get the consistent beeping error message. Problem is that it wont supply a BEC charge so even by passing the BEC and running a separate pack wont reset the controller.
I have tried everything yet cant get the controller to reset and take a program. Its not turning the motor at all.

Any thoughts, or is it dead. If its dead do I send to MGM or Monster RC(reseller) for repair?

Regards
GB

bonescro 05.06.2007 11:36 AM

Hehe. Sounds familiar.

It needs to be re-programmed.

Ask Mike what he thinks, or e-mail them and make arrangements to ship it to them. It only cost me eight bucks, and I got it back in around three weeks.

They will communicate with you very well.

Ron

P.S. If you declare its value at ten bucks, it will breeze through customs,
but that is your call.

pb4ugo 05.07.2007 09:55 PM

What is it with the 16016s? I've had serious trouble with mine. When it works it's great, but that has been seldom.

One note about the error beeping at start-up. I have found that both the servo reversing and the response rate (if equipped, like on my Nomadio) need to be set properly before it will accept programing inputs. I could not get mine to stop until I slowed down the radio signal by changing it from a digital signal output to an analog.

AAngel 05.07.2007 10:13 PM

What's this about sending the Compro in for re-programming. MGM didn't mention anything about that to me. I just put my Compro up for sale.


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