Eat like a Brasilian!!!!
 

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/weig...-to-slim-down/

Good thing she didn't go to Minas Gerais. Most of our food is made from scratch, but that's not all, most of our food is processed in a different way. How different you ask? I'll give my city as an example. Every morning the milk guy used to go by, talk about fresh milk, the taste is fantastic. We also buy a lot from the local farmers that produce legumes, vegetables, meats and fruits. All organic and not small portions either. Now, big cities are gaining weight. Why you ask? Fast food. Make your food from scratch my friends and see how much better it'll make you feel and the taste is a plus.

Want to know a little strange thing. My daughter eats a Brasilian candy called Pacoca (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pa%C3%A7oca (The corked shaped ones are her favorites)). It's made out of peanuts and yes she's allergic to peanuts. How do I know she's allergic to it? A few years back, I bought a Snickers bar and when I got home at around 9pm she saw it and took a small bite. She didn't like it, but after she went to bed, I went into her room like I usually do at around 12 and 1am to find my daughter swelling up in various places such as her forehead, back, belly and legs. Well, I woke her up, gave her some Claritin and rushed her to the hospital. There they told me she had an allergic reaction to the Snickers bar, but I told them (The doctors) it never happened with another candy made out of peanuts from Brasil. They thought it was very strange and I think something is up with a lot of the foods we buy here. My question is, could it be just the peanuts in the Snickers bar or something else that caused the allergic reaction?

Lutach, did she go into anaphylaxis? It doesn't sound like she did...

I've got no real experience will allergies but I'm sure I've read that you can have a latent allergy that may flare up at times without warning or it may also be the peanut concentrations in Pacoca is lower than Snickers??

No she didn't. The peanut concentration in a single Pacoca that she loves to eat is more then the little bite she took from the Snickers bar. Picture this, that round box comes in 2 sizes. I usually buy the one with double the amount of Pacoquinha, mainly because I love that stuff and one day I couldn't find the box. Comes to find out she hid it and ate half in less then half an hour. She did get a stomach ache, but that was it and it passed after she did #2 and no allergic reaction. The thing is, before I came to the US I never heard of a few things like: Flu (I got the Flu for the first time when I took the vaccines for school here in the US), allergies (Only seen it with my daughter) and Autism.

That's very interesting. With all the garbage we consume that has been genetically modified/sprayed with poison/processed I have no trouble believing that there may be a fundamental difference between a Brazilian peanut and an American peanut. If you've done any research into the chemical slurry that passes for food here, you know that most of it isn't fit for a lab rat. Much of the G.M. foods have very little 'beta testing' before they are FORCED onto the market. Google 'Olestra' for a wonderful example.

I have heard and read many times that people who had never been sick became critically ill after a jab. There is a video on YT of a girl who developed a severe muscle condition after taking the first part of the swine flu vaccine. Many thought it was a hoax, but it did gain national media attention. They want to make this shit mandatory. Not just the shots we get as children, but every shot there is.

Too many people still put their faith 100% in the medical industry blindly.

On the other hand if you want to eat 'organic' (still can't believe there needs to be a category for REAL food) it can be costly and hard to find. Who is it that wants us to be in bad health all the time? Maybe the industry that stands to gain the most from it.

Even growing your own "real" food has become almost impossible. How do you know what you're getting for seeds? We've all become ignorant participants in this experiment, and there will be real consequences. We won't have much idea what we are doing to ourselves until it's way too late I'm afraid.

I have to agree with everything you said. This summer though, I did manage to find some real good seeds and grew my own stuff like tomatoes, peppers, beans and many herbs (Not the smoking type :lol:). The taste brought me back to the goodness of the food I used to eat in Brasil. I'm going to get some info and when I do, I'm going to show it to all of us and hopefully it'll change just a bit on how we all look at things we put in our bodies.

I would punt on her not being allergic to the nuts but something else. You don't know what goes into junkfood these days.... or baby milk, do you remember a while back the babies in china that were having problems and dying. It was melomine, the stuff they use as bench tops. It was very close to the protien in the milk so the company cut corners to save money.

That same melomine is in the white part of the snickers bar. When you go into it there is so much shit to beware and steer clear of. I hope people in general start taking more informed action to weed out these black-hearted companies. There are many things I won't eat any more ie snickers, and my much loved tim tams.

I'm not one to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon & vaccinations are a very sensitive subject for you Lutach for obvious reasons so please don't think I'm attacking you by asking this - should I assume that you believe you would not have contracted seanonal influenza if you remained in Brasil maintaining your diet?

No doubt processed food generally offers low nutritional values & at worst is almost deadly (I'm thinking palm oil, MSG etc) but pp3310 how do you know melomine is in snickers, it's not listed as an ingredient?

I tried looking up my old emails so I could back up my claim but I've deleted it. It was just a guy who got on his horse about this specific sort of stuff. All those numbers at the and of the ingredients list is where they hide it all, example- the brown colouring in the buiscut in tim tams is carconagenic (shown on the news a fews months back). My wife has a list of the worst numbers to look out for. It doesn't get used while shopping but when we get home, if it doesn't pass the test we still consume it but won't get it again.

I'd love to see the worst numbers list, we happily avoid the "nasty" products at home & I'm absolutely staggered at how many kid specifc products are just chemical concoctions...it's a sad world when food becomes a case of caveat emptor

Knock yourself out

http://www.additivealert.com.au/

I love this subject, so you're not attacking me at all. Here's how things work. In Brasil, I hardly got sick and never had the flu. I do have family in the pharmaceuticals and hospital business that are gathering the information that will put an end to this. What happened to me was crazy. I had to take a vaccine to attend school and a few minutes after the shot, I got sick. Had a fever and spent 2 weeks home with the flu. Back then, I didn't know if it was the flu shot, but I'm going to search to see which vaccines it is.

I might send a few things to Brasil and see what kind of stuff is in it. I would like to know what ingredient in the Snickers bar gave my daughter the allergic reaction and would also get results from the Pacoca to make things even a bit.

Nice one...didn't realise you were in Aus, where abouts?

A vaccine is a very small dose of the virus you're trying to protect yourself from. It is meant to stimulate the immune system to grow a resistance to it.

With the swine-flu vaccine available my wife asked around about it. Not one of the medical friends and asosciates surveyed said they will take the vaccine. That was enough for us, no vaccines.

Good luck with your daughter Lutach

Perth:smile:

Yeah it sure is. But processed food goes back many years, we are just seeing it steadily worsen. Corporate greed will trump all, including human health. MSG, right along with Aspartame are two of the major contributors to ailments that are often misdiagnosed. I happen to be hypersensitive to MSG, small amounts trigger a headache. Well that's the same "headache" they used to call Chinese Food Syndrome. Because the Chinese restaurants would use it in high proportions. MSG has been shown to corrode the blood-brain barrier, as well as being a major cause of low attn span, irritability and restlessness. So what I was saying above about misdiagnoses really does matter, how many people are on the Ritalin because they eat ramen noodles every day? I used to love em, now I know if I have some I will be more or less a zombie the rest of the day. Not knowing any better, I might be the one on Ritalin or some other bizarre evil substance.

We have little blue pills to get you hard, we have little green ones to get you to sleep, we have a red one for your depressed DOG fer chrissakes..

This ain't the world some of us grew up in.

From Pink's link:
"Alarmingly, the rates of diseases such as cancer, obesity, diabetes, autism, depression, asthma and ADHD have also increased dramatically over this time."

What was I just saying..hmm. Thanks for that link Pink.

Check this one- www.dorway.com

Here is the list of 92 of the FDA's own known issues with Aspartame-

Abdominal Pain
Anxiety attacks
arthritis
asthma
Asthmatic Reactions
Bloating, Edema (Fluid Retention)
Blood Sugar Control Problems (Hypoglycemia or Hyperglycemia)
Brain Cancer (Pre-approval studies in animals)
Breathing difficulties
burning eyes or throat
Burning Urination
can't think straight
Chest Pains
chronic cough
Chronic Fatigue
Confusion
Death
Depression
Diarrhea
Dizziness
Excessive Thirst or Hunger
fatigue
feel unreal
flushing of face
Hair Loss (Baldness) or Thinning of Hair
Headaches/Migraines dizziness
Hearing Loss
Heart palpitations
Hives (Urticaria)
Hypertension (High Blood Pressure)
Impotency and Sexual Problems
inability to concentrate
Infection Susceptibility
Insomnia
Irritability
Itching
Joint Pains
laryngitis
"like thinking in a fog"
Marked Personality Changes
Memory loss
Menstrual Problems or Changes
Migraines and Severe Headaches (Trigger or Cause From Chronic Intake)
Muscle spasms
Nausea or Vomiting
Numbness or Tingling of Extremities
Other Allergic-Like Reactions
Panic Attacks
Phobias
poor memory
Rapid Heart Beat
Rashes
Seizures and Convulsions
Slurring of Speech
Swallowing Pain
Tachycardia
Tremors
Tinnitus
Vertigo
Vision Loss
Weight gain

How bad are the headaches? Do they happen after you eat something? I would love to know, this is very important and I'll explain as I go.

Sorry for the late reply, and I only have a few minutes.

I use the word headache, but an MSG 'headache' is really much worse. For me it feels as if the neurons are not communicating, like you are walled off from your own brain. I can't tell you how much it takes for me, it's way less than what's in one ramen "flavor packet". It's been many years since I put 1 and 1 together, so I avoid everything with MSG. Sounds easy until you realize it's in almost everything. Salad dressings, bagged snacks, canned and dried soups, condiments, the list goes on and on.

So the headaches are not an issue now, and haven't been for a long time thankfully. The point here is that even if you don't have a reaction to it, it's still doing severe damage. As I said earlier, it's likely most people would never make that connection. They would be easy to convince that they needed this or that prescription to alleviate symptoms that they didn't know the true cause of.

I gotta run, post up your thoughts and I'll have more later. :yes:

Ok, so let me go into details of why I wanted to know. My daughter eats the same kind of food most Brasilians eat. She loves rice and beans (Not canned beans or that microwave rice) and from time to time she'll eat meats like steak, chicken and fish. Now, she doesn't get any headaches at home, but she already had 3 situation in school where I had to go get her due to her having headaches. I have similar headaches, but mine is tension headaches and it feel like things are just exploding in my head, but here's how things are similar. She usually throws up and takes a nap afterwards and she wakes up like nothing happened and the same happens to me. I mentioned her headaches to her doctor and he said it's not food related, but how come this has happened 3 times so far in school and right after her lunch? It's not stress related as I make sure her daily routine is not stressful, only homework time seems to be kind of stressful for her, but I try to make it as fun as possible. Now, I might ask the health department to check the quality of the school food. What's funny is when she started school, I sent home cooked meals and she never had a situation like she's having now eating school food. I want to get her back to home cooked meals for school lunch, but she wants to eat what the other kids are eating.

Who knows what is in the food they are serving at lunch. Its usually very cheap and poor quality ingredients. I think a lot of people are sensitive to MSG to some degree, so I think it is supposed to be labeled as an ingredient (not sure of its a requirement tho.)

I am surprized at all the allergies kids have these days. I can't ever remember a kid having peanut allergies when I was in school. Now you hear of all sorts of kids having it, and peanut products are generally not even allowed in school anymore.


Beyond the food additives and chemical perticides, the packaging of the material is something to beware of. Plastic has all sorts of chemicals that leech out. Never heat your food in plastic containers in microwaves. Microwaving saran wrap is especially bad.

Agreed Finn, there were none of these ailments years ago, and I think 80% are food related. I had horrible heartburn for years, and couldn't figure that one out either. That was until a split I had with an ex in 2001. I got my own place and didn't get another microwave. The heartburn stopped. Completely. It has not been a problem since. Some time thereafter I stumbled on some very interesting info, and that is, microwave ovens were banned in the USSR and parts of Europe until around 1977. You can find that info or yourself. The plastics, and can linings (Bisphenol A) have been known to have strange effects on hormones, to the point they can change the sex of fish that are subjected to wastewater runoff. So take the plastic toxicity, and then irradiate it. Double whammy.

Luc, next time your daughter has one of her headaches, have her analyze it, Ask her if it's a 'pain' headache, or a hazy, disconnected feeling. And you could save yourself some legwork by simply assuming that the school food is chock full of additives. There are so many sources of the stuff now that I DO assume there are additives, until I've checked the labels.

I know many people are going to read this and write it off. If any of these symptoms sound familiar to anyone, PLEASE take the time and check things out. You could end up saving a life, literally. And maybe even your own.

I think my microwave burrito is done...

I ask her questions when she gets the headaches, but with her autism, she sometimes don't know how to describe it in a way that would help. She does said it's a pain and she points at her forehead. She also has a runny nose that never seems to stop running. Could she have a sinus problem? I doubt it sometimes as the headaches only comes after she eats and then she throws up. I asked her doctor what could be causing it, but he seems to damn lost. The thing that bugs me the most is, in what so called "Third World Countries", they know what causes most of the problems. I'll call my uncles to give them the details and see what they say. It would be amazing if they know what it is from me explaining it to them and know how to treat it. If they do, I'll go pay a visit to my daughter's doctor and open his eyes a bit. It's just too frustrating as a parent, because I want to best for my child and I feel powerless when there's nothing I can do.

I remember being 6ft and bullet proof. I was young dumb and full of......"wisdom". I think the majority of people are interested in health and well being. The ones who might pass it over are usually young and fit.:slap::drunk:

That feeling of powerlessness for my children is about the worst feeling I have ever had.

That's gotta be rough, I wish I could be of more help.

First-world medicine is a joke Luc, there is no incentive to cure anything or anyone.

If you're cured, they're out of work. Many times people leave a "modern" hospital in worse shape than when they arrived. I'm happy to report being in relatively good health despite NOT being to a doctor in well over 15 years. If I had gone to the doctor about some of the food ailments I'd had, well.. who knows.

Modern med is all about patching you up and getting you out the door. Seldom is the root cause ever addressed. So I would definitely look elsewhere for advice, sounds like a good idea to ask your own family. I have no predispositions about thirdworld medicine, in fact it seems to me in most other countries they actually want to see people improve.

Imagine that....

Best wishes man!

Redshift- quite often the doctors are not taught to find the root of a problem they are only taught patch ups. But doctors still give off the idea that they know what they are doing because people go to them thinking ' he's the doctor, he can fix me'.

In the 16th century, when witch hunts were all the rage, it was the doctors who invented the concept of the witch because they would cop the rap from the family of the deceased. Just as a matter of interest, it was nearly all caused by a mold that grew in the wheat in humid summers and then spread through the town by the baker. The doctor didn't know and couldn't explain it so to save his own hide said 'there's nothing i can do. It must be witchcraft.'

Barr the witch hunts, not much has changed.

Does panda know how the witches and broomsticks myth began? Hehe it's bizarre.

I don't blame individuals for the way the system is, I know 99% of them go to work and want to do some good. The problem is that few of them seem to see outside their education "box". They perform like robots almost, because there is no room for them to think or second guess any command that is handed down. In that manner the medical industry is a lot like the military. Many people can't hack it (pun intended) and change careers after lots of disappointment, years of school and essentially wasted knowledge.

The real problem arose, I think, when people started being viewed as a commodity, and not a human. You are a product to be repaired. Again, this is not pointing fingers at the individuals, but the system itself. That seems to be around the same time the doctors started receiving hefty kickbacks for basically being a white-coat drug dealer.

I happen to have a passionate hatred for the Pharma industry, that might show.
The doctors now are more likely to hand you a script, without so much as checking your pulse.

"Is the patient breathing?"

"No"

"Well shove these down his throat and have him call me in the morning"

I got that myth from the most trusted of all media.. the TV. The mold is called ergot and gives the sensation of an acid trip and at the same time shrinks the veins and starves the body of blood/oxygen.

I agree with you completely about the medical industry, it's not the individuals. The head of nearly all researchers is on the payroll of the pharmicutical (spelling?) giants. When they get close to a cure they direct the research to another area. I can't back this one up. My mother has cancer and has read all about it, so I could reference you some books at a later date.

I have also come across individuals who refuse to look outside there assigned box. I had a skin specialist tell me that my daughter and I had a behavioural problem (eg shorter bath times) and that's why she had eczema. That made my blood boil. I could have snotted that c:bad:nt right there and then. I am convinced it is diet related but anyone i talk to says 'no, it makes no difference'.

Which comes back to the thread title- EAT LIKE A BRASILIAN

"The mold is called ergot and gives the sensation of an acid trip and at the same time shrinks the veins and starves the body of blood/oxygen."

Yeah but you left the good part out... they'd rub the mold on different objects, broom handles and such, where it could be rubbed on the more 'sensitive' tissue and absorbed more easily. And those crazy ol witches would indeed fly....

Which comes back to the thread title- EAT LIKE A BRASILIAN

Hehe when I read that I can't help but play "Walk Like An Egyptian" in my head, mussbe all that ergot...

"I agree with you completely about the medical industry, it's not the individuals. The head of nearly all researchers is on the payroll of the pharmicutical (spelling?) giants. When they get close to a cure they direct the research to another area. I can't back this one up. My mother has cancer and has read all about it, so I could reference you some books at a later date.

No need for proof, you can give to cancer research all your money, there will not be a cure. It makes me sick the way these foundations play us off.

"We're getting closer, really"

MY ASS. Cures have been known for at least 70 years, and suppressed.

If anyone thinks I'm making baseless claims and spewing crap, take 15 minutes and look into it. That's my little disclaimer...

It's interesting to get an Aussie point of view, there are amazing similarities it sounds like. Probably all bad lol.

Sorry to hear about your mother, I hope there is a good outcome.

My wife is italian/Rican by decent, but spent her life in Peru and Mexico (deep darkest by paddington bear) She gets migrains after foods here, generally liptonez <~ cup a soups, and Krafter <~ mac & cheese...names alterered so I dont get sued lol.. She is interested in your finding or contributing Lutach, PM for her email.

There are a few different cures but they work with differing affectiveness on different people. Blended flax seed oil and cottage cheese is the simplest method my mother tried but even then she didn't know if you stop the proceedure at any time and then take it up again it loses it's affect to attack cancer.

There does'nt seem to be any hard and fast rules/cures/fix ups. A lot of people understand disease is in the mind and that is why some cures work and some don't.

The idea of eating like a Brasilian not only improves health for the body but to a much lesser degree promotes healthy mind. Making your own food.

For example- Noob goes and buy's a new rc, doesn't know or understand how it works so when he crashes it gives up the game- quitter

Redshift (coincidence!) builds himself a custom ride so understands everthing (almost) so if/when it brakes he can assess the situation and make better judgement- Thinker

Of course, that is very simplified and everyone is in there own unique situation.

I was referring to Wilhelm Reich's work with orgone therapy. And many other methods, apparently that were 100% effective in targeting only cancerous cells.

It gets very Meta.

IIRC Reich worked closely with Tesla at one point, at the very least they were quite aware of each other's work. This would have been in the 30's.

I wouldn't know what to tell you as far as real alternative medicine, where to go and such but it's well worth researching.

And yes panda, I'm a thinker. And a n00b at lots of things too.

JJ your woman needs to just cut that shit out of her diet. It will NOT be easy.

The cure for her is drinking a COKE, no kidding, the coca cola. Sometimes takes 3..(caffeine) Only thing that stops it. Well known where she grew up sucking on some leaf (not cocaine leaves lol) though that would be nice. Coffee beans, some leaf Im not privy too. I dont get migrains, I can eat/drink anything.. I also have some rare mad cow type disease from living in England in 1984 which excludes me from giving blood in America. Maybe im a walking cure, or disease

Well if she likes trading a migraine for acid reflux... aaaaaaaalrighty then.

I've heard about them leaf-suckers, they usually ain't right in the head...

I don't know guys, you're applying some very large brush strokes to complex problems. I'm not disputing your personal opinions or beliefs but the idea that western medicine is solely focused on the income rather than outcome is far fetched

My family is benefiting every day from the medical industry which assisted us to best case outcomes, not band aid solutions...we're not forced into repeat services by their poor service. It's not to say that doesn't happen - I've helped chiropractors with their mortgage repayments, until I saw the absurdity of the situation

I also know leaders in their respective fields & they give themselves unconditionally to their patients & the industry generally. Local doctors are the ones IMO who are slaves to the pharmaceutical companies, they service the masses for minor ailments & process patients like a madam would punters

http://hsiaustralia.com.au/

These guy's try to expose modern medicine. I have to admit, I don't like all the hype that comes with it.

The facts are coming. Most people here in America don't really want to bother with the things from other places. I talk to a lot of folks and some of the things I tell them, they don't believe until I show them the facts and they here from others. For example, America is a melting pot of many countries and a lot of the people here now have forgotten some of the roots and/or culture. I can go into details, but it'll be a lot of writing.

I work in the medical industry, and while I admit there are a lot of F'd up things that go on, I don't think its full of evil. I think there are a whole host of competing incentives and influences and assumptions that make our system far less effective and more expensive than it can be.

Personally I think avg Americans (and many other "1st worlders") have to deal with very busy work lives which leads to a number of very unhealthy behaviors. Lack of time to cook leads to consumption of poor quality food, little time to exercise, little time to sleep. We get impatient and want all our problems fixed quickly and cheaply and with little personal effort. Pharmas are more than happy to promise to give what the people want. Got a problem? We got a pill. Tired, fat, sad or impotent? We've got your fix.
Its my belief that overwork and unrealistic expectations is also a key reason our divorce rate is so high, but that's another thread.

Secondly, I am not always impressed with the people that are selected to go to medical school. The selection process filters for people who have very high grades and test scores, which often means people that are very good at studying and memorization, but not always much else. However, it is a rare person that combines this with creative thinking skills or good social skills. Being in science, I've met lots of pre-med people over the years. While their grades were enviable, they were not always the people I'd want as my Doc. Many tended to be very book smart, but take them away and put them in RL, and they would do some dumbass sh!t. I don't trust many of them to fix my RC, let alone my liver. Some of the most impressive people I know could never make it in, let alone pass boards because their test taking skills were not quite as sharp as those above.
Also, they are trained in school to believe in their own superiority and infallibility, not unlike science PhD students, so they leave school with a large degree of hubris. They are not so well trained to listen to other people and question, as they are not the ones who made it throught the elite schools, so obviously they don't know what the frak they are talking about.

Don't take that I'm saying all Drs are crap, just that a white lab coat does not make one a sage. They can be wrong, don't be intimidated by a title/degree, and you have to go with what you feel is right, either insisting of different treatment, or a different doc that seems to suit your needs and share your philosophy of how you wanted treated. Docs are also under a lot of pressure to run through people like cattle. They get paid to do things, tests, exams, poking etc. They often do not have the luxury of talking and investigating. A private insurance system is ultimately most incentivised to make thier patients just healthy enough to keep making premium payments, pay as little as possible for care, and return the rest of the $ to shareholders. If they are too troublesome or sick, just kick them out and let Medicare or someone else pay for them.

Lastly, our environment is full of chemicals we are not naturally adapted to. As said, additives in food, packaging, but even in the air as by products or pollution, from factories or cars or even building materials. I don't think its acute exposure to any one thing that becomes a problem, but no one can say what the cumulitive effects of such chronic exposure will be. Teasing out those answers is a terribly difficult process. My brother is a professor and cancer researcher, and the work is painfully complicated, slow and frustrating. If he could come up with a cure to any one cancer, no matter how rare, he could become a very rich man. However, its entirely possible he may work his entire life and not make any meaningful breakthru, despite the large amts of money his lab recieves.

I'm not sure which angle you're coming from Lutach?

Maybe I can clarify what I said...western medicine requires income to move forward. Without this there's no R&D & little incentive to push for best case outcomes. I think you'd agree that if I set up a shop selling organic, indigenous Brasillian foods, I'd need to make a profit. Profit isn't a dirty word

If western medicine is in fact a farce or a scam to milk money from the population, then why do the R&D, why introduce life saving methods, medicines etc? It would be simpler to just take the income & give a pittance in return...like the gambling industry

I support the argument that a good diet of good quality food, combined with exercise is the key to a longer, healthier life (in fact I'd go so far as to say people who live this way should be able to pay less taxes but that's another argument entirely), afterall, we're living longer & healthier lives than ever before. I also agree with the point Finnster raises about chemicals in our environment, today more than any other time we are living in a chemical concoction that we have no real control over

We certainly have no way to accurately interperate how our current environment will affect current & future generations...we live in uncertain times, as we always have, only we've developed a feeling of control with massive medical advances since the 19th century

mm...more ammonia please!
 

Wow. http://www.naturalnews.com/027872_am..._products.html

Nice find redshift.

We almost never eat that shite (once a blue moon to spoil the kids).

Isn't it ridiculous to inject almost anything into food and have it passed by authorities. People are accussing companies of being black-hearted, what about the authorities?