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Freezebyte 12.01.2009 03:12 PM

Losi LST1 pulls Honda Civic!
 
That is impressive but damn, I wonder how his clutch faired after that! Lol and its cool he pulled the same car as mine, though its a 2 door 08 Civic.

HULK.... PULL!!!!

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Finnster 12.01.2009 03:42 PM

Oh damn!.. a BL has to beat that!

Unsullied_Spy 12.01.2009 04:54 PM

Look at that little toy car! The LST tows it just fine! :na:

Pretty impressive to see an RC tow a real car though.

rabosi 12.01.2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 336439)
Look at that little toy car! The LST tows it just fine! :na:

Pretty impressive to see an RC tow a real car though.

Does a Civic qualify as a "real" car.:lol:

Bondonutz 12.01.2009 05:08 PM

If he uses aluminum shoes I bet he has to pull the motor out to dress the shoes after every pull. PITA with all the crap he's got on the chassis.
But, It is kinda cool. As Harold said, BL will def do that !

shaunjohnson 12.01.2009 06:31 PM

pretty cool...but ask yourself...is a civic really that hard to push?
pump up the tyres (really tight) on my van and it'll roll away no matter where you put it:lol:

PBO 12.01.2009 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondonutz (Post 336442)
As Harold said, BL will def do that !

That's Harold's alter ego :lol: :lol:

mistercrash 12.01.2009 07:12 PM

what would be the amp draw from pulling a 2004 Toyota Sienna? :lol:

skellyo 12.01.2009 09:53 PM

He's local to me here in Orlando...bashed with him a few times...good guy.

Finnster 12.01.2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PBO (Post 336462)
That's Harold's alter ego :lol: :lol:

hahaha... its about time I change the avatar again I suppose, but it just cracks me up every time I see it. I know its lame to laugh at your own jokes, but that one was a winner. :)

BL_RV0 12.01.2009 11:46 PM

Hm... if it was anything but a nitro I'd be impressed.

HomeGrown 12.02.2009 12:30 AM

makes you wanna try it with electric power!!

bruce750i 12.02.2009 12:57 AM

Looks easy to try.

shaunjohnson 12.02.2009 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Finnster (Post 336533)
hahaha... its about time I change the avatar again I suppose, but it just cracks me up every time I see it. I know its lame to laugh at your own jokes, but that one was a winner. :)

it's pure gold it is!!

i'm gonna give this a try as soon as my revo is going again... hehe...6s powa!!!!!!!!

bigsteel 12.02.2009 09:49 AM

alright,i love nitro and brushless,but wouldnt a BL setup just roast the slipper? and if you tightened it down it would just spin the tires? i think in his situation the slipping clutch shoes and less linear power band helped.--josh

Bondonutz 12.02.2009 10:57 AM

I agree to a point, I think it wouldn't be much different than BL because I'm sure he had some fine tuneing to do to get the results he has ?
Throttle control might be the biggest factor w/a BL set up.

I'm thinking of attempting this myself this coming weekend, I have a buddy w/a little eco car we could use.

Nard Cox 12.02.2009 11:40 AM

So this is 100% real? Because I saw like 50 opportunities to sneak someone behind the car.

If true, very impressive
If false, very sad

Finnster 12.02.2009 12:46 PM

I don't see why its impossible. It fairly easy to push a small car in neutral on the level.
Our cars have quite a bit of power in them. Hold onto the bumper sometime and hit the thr and see how much it pulls. Much stronger than it seems.

You can get so much TQ out of a elec motor I'm sure it could do it well, assuming you can get the traction to do so and not burn out the spd control. Gearing way down would help alot. I'm curious how the lst was geared.

Bondonutz 12.02.2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Finnster (Post 336637)
I'm curious how the lst was geared.

If he has the LST trans w/Hi&Lo selector he can flip that and have some serious low end grunt in that thing !

I think my LST2 geared for 35mph w/5s will do it easily, I think ?:neutral:

_paralyzed_ 12.02.2009 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnster (Post 336533)
hahaha... its about time I change the avatar again I suppose, but it just cracks me up every time I see it. I know its lame to laugh at your own jokes, but that one was a winner. :)

I agree. I still laugh when I see your avatar!

Slowkrawl 12.02.2009 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 336544)
Hm... if it was anything but a nitro I'd be impressed.

I'm actually MORE impressed that that oil burner got it to move. The video really doesn't impress me though, it's all in the gearing. The guy made it sound like it could be the most intense thing to happen in all of rc...

BP-Revo 12.02.2009 09:13 PM

With a brushless I think it would be key to actually keep the tires spinning...if you throttle controlled so the tires would have full traction, I think you would have problems.

suicideneil 12.02.2009 09:14 PM

We need to out do him, just to show how epic electric power is-; if I gear my Gmaxx down really low, I reckon the old girl could easily tow my sister's boyfriend's ford feista- just whack the jumbo maxxes on to get some extra grip...

_paralyzed_ 12.02.2009 10:17 PM

and if i geared my cybermaxx real low i could pull my aunt's ex-husband's landlord's dog walker's honda crx:lol: just whack on some mickey thompsons for grip!

JERRY2KONE 12.02.2009 10:35 PM

Still
 
Still got to give the guy credit for doing something like this. BUT what is all of that noise and smoke coming off that pig? POLLUTER!! I belive that it would not be all that hard to duplicate or even beat that with a BL. Maybe put a little more wieght in it to give you better traction and do direct drive. Why burn up a clutch or slipper if you have the right torque motor setup in it? Once you get it moving your golden due to momentum.

Unsullied_Spy 12.02.2009 10:57 PM

I think for brushless, start up would be the hard part (particularly for sensorless). I imagine you'd see some serious amps trying to get rolling, but once it's going it would pull it along just fine, gear for 2-3 MPH top speed and don't do it frequently.

E-Revonut 12.04.2009 04:12 PM

I would be impressed except I don't really think it's possible. Not that it doesn't have the power to do it...I don't think a 20+lb rc could ever get enough traction to move a ~2800lb car. No matter what the gearing is I think traction would be the problem.

I hooked my stock e-maxx up to a 45lb laundry basket and dragged it across carpet. Traction was pretty good as the way I hooked it up as soon as the strap tightened up it was actually pulling the truck down giving more traction. I had plenty of power with a bone stock setup but any more weight and I don't think it'd have the traction. I may try pulling a riding lawn mower (~400-500lbs) just to see if it's feasible to pull anything heavier

Bondonutz 12.04.2009 04:35 PM

With the rider being lighter would it still have extra rolling resistance with the belts and aux drive stuff ?

E-Revonut 12.04.2009 04:39 PM

I can disengage everything and it's very easy to push, much easier than a Honda Civic.

E-Revonut 12.04.2009 04:44 PM

I beleive he said 27 lb truck, lets call it 28lbs and a 2800lb car, 100x it's weight. The big tractor pull tractors easily way about 8000lbs and a fully weighted sled weighs about 50,000lbs,(about 6x it's weight. granted it's dragging it not pulling it on wheels but those tractors are set up with optimal weight distribution and as many as 3 turbine angines or 4-5 allison aircraft engines for a total of close to 9000HP

JERRY2KONE 12.04.2009 08:19 PM

Yea but.
 
Yea but you said the magic words. That car is on wheels with the only resistance being the bearings in the vehicle. All you have ot do is get it moving and momentum will do the rest. Like it has been stated in here a few times set a similar car up that weighs about 3,000 lbs and give it a push by hand. It does not take much to get it moving, and once you start it moving keeping it going is nto all that hard to do. Plus the grad it is parked on will have something to do with how easy or hard it is to start it into motion. Traction is an issue, but you have to figure in all of the variables.


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