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Slowkrawl 12.03.2009 10:59 PM

Realistically, how much water can an MMM handle?
 
Hey guys, the title is pretty self-explanitory. I am trying to figure out a way to keep the snow off the speedy in my savage flux. So far I have tried afro-engineering some tape around it which worked alright, but there was still some water on it. I want to keep it water-resistant but still be able to breath. Kind of contradicting if you ask me :lol:

So back to my original question though, how much water can the speedy take before it goes to smoke land?

brushlessboy16 12.03.2009 11:07 PM

I dont know how much actually amount but heres my experience..
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...PICT0002-2.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...PICT0003-2.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...PICT0006-2.jpg


NAy snow that gets close to it melts away. You should be fine

pinkpanda3310 12.03.2009 11:15 PM

Can't you open the case and blob silicon over everything but the heatsink?
I don't get snow, so this is more out of curiosity for myself.

fastbaja5b 12.03.2009 11:18 PM

Hard to Say, I have seen some get soaked and last fine, and another fry from a couple of drops in the wrong place.

HomeGrown 12.03.2009 11:27 PM

my mm has been soaked while bashing up north it costed me $50 bucks too lol but it can handle quite a bit keep a eye on it tho.. put it in a balloon??

BrianG 12.03.2009 11:29 PM

You could encase the whole ESC (up to the heatsink and connectors) in epoxy. THat would definitely void the warranty, but no water troubles .... at least not on the ESC...

Slowkrawl 12.03.2009 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 336946)
You could encase the whole ESC (up to the heatsink and connectors) in epoxy. THat would definitely void the warranty, but no water troubles .... at least not on the ESC...

But then my worry is heat. If I were to coat it in anything, I'd wrap it up and plasti-dip it, however I think it would overheat due to no airflow and the fan wouldn't be able to even do it's job. I will see what I come up with and maybe post some pics. Here's to hoping I don't kill the speedy!


Edit:
Ahhh I just re-read your post. You mean coat everything except basically the fan? The fan looks like a perfect spot for water to get in to me....

pinkpanda3310 12.03.2009 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 336946)
You could encase the whole ESC (up to the heatsink and connectors) in epoxy. THat would definitely void the warranty, but no water troubles .... at least not on the ESC...

I'm assuming thermal epoxy would be the best option? Then fit it to an ali casing while the epoxy is still going off.

pinkpanda3310 12.03.2009 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slowkrawl (Post 336947)
But then my worry is heat. If I were to coat it in anything, I'd wrap it up and plasti-dip it, however I think it would overheat due to no airflow and the fan wouldn't be able to even do it's job. I will see what I come up with and maybe post some pics. Here's to hoping I don't kill the speedy!


Edit:
Ahhh I just re-read your post. You mean coat everything except basically the fan? The fan looks like a perfect spot for water to get in to me....

I think he means take it out of the casing first and then coat it, then put it back in the casing.

E-Revonut 12.03.2009 11:49 PM

I bashed with a MMM in my E-revo all last winter in the snow with no problems. Biggest recomendation is to cover all holes in the body ( any holes drilled for air flow) since if there's snow on yhe ground it should be pretty cold out and lots of airflow isn't needed. Other idea I have is a box just big enough for the esc and a lid that will go over it, put some spacers in so that the top doesn't seal it off. This will allow room for the wires to go out and some air to get in but snow should have a hard time getting in. If interested in more details I will make a drawing and take a picture to post up

Slowkrawl 12.04.2009 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 336957)
I bashed with a MMM in my E-revo all last winter in the snow with no problems. Biggest recomendation is to cover all holes in the body ( any holes drilled for air flow) since if there's snow on yhe ground it should be pretty cold out and lots of airflow isn't needed. Other idea I have is a box just big enough for the esc and a lid that will go over it, put some spacers in so that the top doesn't seal it off. This will allow room for the wires to go out and some air to get in but snow should have a hard time getting in. If interested in more details I will make a drawing and take a picture to post up

Or a box with a big lip on the lid and "spacers". Hmm, good idea's guys!

shaunjohnson 12.04.2009 12:43 AM

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24618
my experience

BrianG 12.04.2009 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slowkrawl (Post 336947)
But then my worry is heat. If I were to coat it in anything, I'd wrap it up and plasti-dip it, however I think it would overheat due to no airflow and the fan wouldn't be able to even do it's job. I will see what I come up with and maybe post some pics. Here's to hoping I don't kill the speedy!


Edit:
Ahhh I just re-read your post. You mean coat everything except basically the fan? The fan looks like a perfect spot for water to get in to me....

Actually, coat everything up to the heatsink. As long as there is a seal between the heatsink and the coating, it's waterproof and there is no thermal penalty. Although, I personally would want to heatsink the BEC. It's switching but it does produce some heat.

e-rev project 12.04.2009 01:12 AM

shower cap, elastic and plastic worked well for my emaxx. good luck snow is my favorite surface

V0RT3X 12.04.2009 10:57 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUSmKAvHyEk

TexasSP 12.04.2009 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slowkrawl (Post 336937)
So far I have tried afro-engineering some tape around it which worked alright, but there was still some water on it.

I am so surprised no one else caught the wording above.........

Unsullied_Spy 12.04.2009 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 337077)
I am so surprised no one else caught the wording above.........

:lol: I caught it, haven't heard that one before.

I would try putting it in a tupperware container and checking often to make sure it doesn't overheat. If heat is an issue then drilling holes in the bottom should let enough air flow through it to keep from getting too hot.

TexasSP 12.04.2009 06:17 PM

Well, in my experience it's a nicer version of a derogatory term. Maybe others see it differently.

brushlessboy16 12.04.2009 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 337085)
Well, in my experience it's a nicer version of a derogatory term. Maybe others see it differently.

It happens to the best of us. no harm done:wink:

HomeGrown 12.04.2009 08:04 PM

8 mins?? oh lawd.. i watched it tho.. wonder if works for my MM?.. i never knew you could submerge a brushless motor.. interesting..

Slowkrawl 12.04.2009 08:19 PM

Hmmm I may go to town with the plasti-dip on it and also figure a way to stuff a heat sensor off the dx3s in there to keep an eye on things? It should thermal first though...

V0RT3X 12.05.2009 03:45 AM

Also see:

http://rc-auto.ru/forum/index.php?s=...ndpost&p=90095

:intello:

bryan 12.06.2009 10:08 PM

PARK IT FOR THE WINTER.:lol:

Cartwheels 12.06.2009 11:14 PM

Plasti-dip is easier to find but, isn't a conformal epoxy coating the correct stuff to use?
http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/inf...erproof-rx.php

Freezebyte 12.07.2009 01:53 AM

No way in hell im gonna chance getting my $1000 Flux wet.

Slowkrawl 12.07.2009 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 337507)
No way in hell im gonna chance getting my $1000 Flux wet.

Live a little! The waterproofed esc worked dandy, however the lipo's didn't like the cold so much! Live and learn.

Unsullied_Spy 12.07.2009 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slowkrawl (Post 337511)
Live a little! The waterproofed esc worked dandy, however the lipo's didn't like the cold so much! Live and learn.

What happened to your lipos? I run in the cold all the time and have never had a battery problem. My fingers freezing up is the biggest problem :lol:

V0RT3X 12.07.2009 03:27 PM

Would plastic sandwich baggies and zipties be sufficient for lipo protection? Once they reach their "operating" temperature they shouldn't mind being out in the cold.:oops:

I will also need this:

http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uplo...pitglove-2.jpg

Unsullied_Spy 12.07.2009 03:41 PM

If you're worried about getting them wet, I'd use a balloon and zip tie the opening. I leave my lipos indoors around 70 degrees so they're fairly warm when I start the run and usually only 80-90 degrees at the shrinkwrap by the end.

Slowkrawl 12.07.2009 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unsullied_Spy (Post 337596)
What happened to your lipos? I run in the cold all the time and have never had a battery problem. My fingers freezing up is the biggest problem :lol:

Take a look at my "soo umm that can't be good" thread


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