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rawfuls 12.05.2009 02:56 AM

Some More Computer Help.
 
Yes, me again, this time, it's my turn to suffer. :no:

This morning, my computer was rockin, being it's usual.
Nothing was bogging it down or anything...

But anyways, here's my issue.

When I first got home, put my backpack down, turned my powersurge on, then turned the computer on. With one SATA (500GB - Master); and one IDE (yes, IDE), 250GB (Slave)

It does it's usual thing, passes POST, and all, until it reaches the spash screen of XP (The bar loading thingymajig), after what seems to be like it'd usually be done, it goes black, just like usual, and it's SUPPOSED to go into the welcome screen... But, it turns black, and just restarts.

I know it's not my GPU, LAN Card, or my Sound card, or my RAM.

Already took em out, put new ram in, still same thing, and I think it's my boot configs.

Any advice? I was thinking about going into safemode, (which does the same thing, except, it just shows the drivers, and then just restarts), find out what driver it's sticking on, and replacing that file by hand, but that sounds really tedious, and would rather get somebody's else's advice before I do so.

I'm trying to keep the format, and the reinstall of XP (Since I have two partitions, 1 for data, and 1 for my OS....), as I did this before, and was a huge pain to have to deal with re-installing all the applications so the registries worked, so I just formatted then, but that was when I didn't have much information on the computer, I do now.

Help!

shaunjohnson 12.05.2009 06:20 AM

i fix this issue by re-installing winDOHs.
fixed many issues exactly like this by doing that. get good pay from it too:lol:
but if that isnt the case it could possibly be heat related as the cpu is beginning to come under load.
i'm assuming it's either a 478 or 775?

dun worry. i run a 40gb IDE and a 160gb SATA so dont feel bad :lol:
my pc is rockin with a 3.4ghz dual core and 2gb of ram. perdy good for a machine made up of bits that people threw out!! never spent a cent on it!!:yipi:

rabosi 12.05.2009 11:20 AM

I agree with Shaun. Check your cpu fan/speed if you haven"t already.

jokerjustin 12.05.2009 01:29 PM

yes and no... it sounds like a registry prob... you can try an xp repair if you have the cd.. just put it in the drive and boot off of it... if it passes post its not going to be a hardware prob.(cpu fan)... it should be a simple fix if you have the cd... if not pm me you email and i can send you the necessary files to create the iso boot cd.

rawfuls 12.05.2009 02:17 PM

If I insert the XP CD, it will pass POST, but even if I try loading the Windows, with the CD in, it will still do what it does.

btw, it's a:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500
ECS Mobo (Don't know model)
2x2GB Corsair 800mhz RAM

jokerjustin 12.05.2009 03:22 PM

umm not sure on your mobo but its prob f8 for the boot setup... just click on the drive that the cd is in.... your not loading windows... it should go to the repair section.

rawfuls 12.05.2009 03:26 PM

ECS G31T-M

If I boot off CD, it'll take me to the XP screen, did you want me to get into recovery console?

EDIT: I have a video uploading.

shaunjohnson 12.05.2009 04:42 PM

i think what justin is trying to say is that you have to set the CD drive as the master boot device and the HDD as the secondary.
so when it attempts to boot it will go for the CD first and that will take you to a blue, DOS like screen with a few options like repair or install etc.

you know how to change the master boot device in BIOS don't you?
good luck.

rawfuls 12.05.2009 04:55 PM

Of course, it's been like that xD

My upload crashed.... so it's reuploading lol.

coolhandcountry 12.05.2009 06:15 PM

I had an issue very similar to what your issue is.
Mine was a bad power supply that half fried my mother board and CPU.
I hope it is not the case.

Freezebyte 12.05.2009 07:47 PM

Boot to the Xp Disc and use the repair function and see if that helps. If it crashes during that, you have a hardware failure, likely either mobo or power supply.

http://pcsupport.about.com/od/operat...txprepair1.htm

Unsullied_Spy 12.05.2009 07:56 PM

Can you boot using safe mode?

suicideneil 12.05.2009 08:00 PM

This is a thread jack, no body move!

What would you pc guys say is the issue when the computer refuses to boots up past the 'post'? stage; just when you expect the little reassuring beep after a few seconds, the pc just shuts down- fans all working fine, no other hardware issues (ram, hdd, cpu etc all fine)? When I built my new pc the original 2 mother boards had to be replaced after only a few days each time, until I bought an updated version of the mobo which has been fine ever since....

Freezebyte 12.05.2009 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 337242)
This is a thread jack, no body move!

What would you pc guys say is the issue when the computer refuses to boots up past the 'post'? stage; just when you expect the little reassuring beep after a few seconds, the pc just shuts down- fans all working fine, no other hardware issues (ram, hdd, cpu etc all fine)? When I built my new pc the original 2 mother boards had to be replaced after only a few days each time, until I bought an updated version of the mobo which has been fine ever since....

Remove all hardware accessories except mobo, PSU, video card *if needed* and boot HDD then try again. If it still continues to power down, swap out the PSU. If that doesn't fix it, failing mobo.

rabosi 12.05.2009 08:12 PM

  • No beep - Possibly, power supply, system board problem, disconnected cpu, or disconnected speaker
Could it be that you both have bad mobos.

suicideneil 12.05.2009 08:24 PM

Hmm, PSU was fine (checked with another one I had spare), CPU fine, speaker fine. I'd go with inherently dodgy mobo- kinda like MMM v1, v2, v3; there have been 3 versions of the mobo I have now, im on the v3 version now and its solid as a rock.

Just annoying really, means I have a perfectly good case and psu going spare, but the blasted mobo is toast- depsite the fact it looks perfect with no obvious blown, burnt or missing components... nay worries.

Freezebyte 12.05.2009 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 337248)
Hmm, PSU was fine (checked with another one I had spare), CPU fine, speaker fine. I'd go with inherently dodgy mobo- kinda like MMM v1, v2, v3; there have been 3 versions of the mobo I have now, im on the v3 version now and its solid as a rock.

Just annoying really, means I have a perfectly good case and psu going spare, but the blasted mobo is toast- depsite the fact it looks perfect with no obvious blown, burnt or missing components... nay worries.

Yep, mobo failures are very rarely visiable. All it takes is a single bad capacitor, diode, scratched data trace or faulty IC to crap out a whole mobo.

suicideneil 12.05.2009 08:50 PM

Aye, and thats what makes it so tragic and wasteful really. On the plus side, I guess I could dig out said faulty mobo and turn it into a cool piece of art- mount it in a frame (no glass) and stick it on the wall as a momento of my first forray into home-built PCs... :na:

Unsullied_Spy 12.05.2009 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 337252)
Aye, and thats what makes it so tragic and wasteful really. On the plus side, I guess I could dig out said faulty mobo and turn it into a cool piece of art- mount it in a frame (no glass) and stick it on the wall as a momento of my first forray into home-built PCs... :na:

Better idea: Send your old computer over here for a proper send-off :yipi:

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...g?t=1260061247
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...g?t=1260061243
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r...g?t=1260061311

Got some pics of a motherboard we effectively scattered around here somewhere, but I think you get the point :wink:

suicideneil 12.05.2009 09:09 PM

I do have a 12ft/lb .177 airrifle, but, I dont think the results would be quite so impressive... :lol:

Unsullied_Spy 12.05.2009 09:21 PM

Yeah, that would just leave little dents. It would punch through PCBs but not as effectively. Best send it to the professionals, especially hard drives if there's "sensitive" information you don't want anyone to have :lol: We specialize in data fragmentation :wink:

Freezebyte 12.05.2009 09:28 PM

Here's my answer to computers who don't behave themselves

[YOUTUBE]wHcgK2z79vM[/YOUTUBE]

rawfuls 12.06.2009 04:18 AM

I don't get a repair mode with my XP SP2 disc... Maybe it's because I have two partitions?
This is what I get right after the terms:


If you can't read it, it says:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...1206090015.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...1206090015.jpg

To set up windows xp on the selected item, press ENTER. (It wants me to format when I do this)

To create a partition in the unpartitioned space, press C. (I don't want to partition...)

To delete the selected partition, press D (Oh hell no :D)

shaunjohnson 12.06.2009 06:34 AM

from memory that is one step too far.
for me, that screen comes second after you have already selected and option.
it usually says to hit R for repair.

Unsullied_Spy 12.06.2009 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaunjohnson (Post 337302)
from memory that is one step too far.
for me, that screen comes second after you have already selected and option.
it usually says to hit R for repair.

I think the one you're talking about is the repair console/command prompt. I haven't done this in a while, but I think you select the volume which XP is installed on and it will detect that there is a current install and should ask if you want to do a repair install. I did this a few times years ago and on some installs the option wasn't there.

Have you tried booting into Safe Mode? If it is a software problem then booting into Safe Mode should work.

rawfuls 12.06.2009 01:26 PM

Nope, that's the step right after the EULA Agreement.

As far as safemode, it can't load SPTD.sys, and I tried transferring a new SPTD.sys into the right folder, no go.

Anyone ever try the parallel install?
http://www.windowsxphome.windowsrein...exfullpage.htm

Just with XP Pro? I get that "Install Windows Leaving Files Intact" I think that's what I might try next.....

rawfuls 12.07.2009 06:40 PM

Hmm, I guess I could fix it, but just don't have the patience to do so.
Left the computer on last night, overnight to backup all my data and such.. Hopefully my brother will bring home a legit (hehe) copy of w7 ultimate or pro for me... Considering they're dirt cheap ($30 for college students) and will just reinstall when he comes home on Thursday.
Til then, slow laptop, be ready...


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