airguns :)
 

since I myself am not a (real) gun freak, I do however start to enjoy the pleasures of BB guns :)
They look like the real think but are fairly innocent compared to the real stuff so a good safe alternative.

In fact there are quit a few Japanse, Taiwanese and some European manufactures of all sorts of weapons that look like the real thing but...just shoot bb :)
Reason is also that firearm are forbidden in most of those countries to own.

From speeds starting around 250 fps to 800fps or more.
All kinds of firearms: Pistols, revolvers, shot guns, assault rifles, sniper riffles, etc

And last week I just bought a KJ Works S&W 1911
http://www.shortyusa.com/airsoft.htm...64.69&CA=&RID=

With blow back system (gives it a great deal of realism) and powerd by Co2, wich is generally more powerfull than normal gas powered guns.

I'm even thinking about buying another Co2 powerd handgun such as the famous James Bond sidearm (and also more notoriously used by the Nazi's) the Walther PPK/S.
Cause it has such a slick looking design.
http://www.4komma5.de:80/Walther-PPK...-P18-Co2-Waffe


Are there any airgun lovers on the board and if so, what guns or riffles do you all own?
Do you join tactical clubs (like in paint ball) or just for fun in your back yard?

I'm curious to know.


Riko

I play airsoft in the woods around here with friends, but don't own my own airsoft gun. I'd rather borrow one from someone and spend that money on a real one :wink: It's good fun, but you can really only play with people that are honorable enough to call their own outs otherwise you have to get right on top of them and hold the trigger down until they finally call their own out :tongue: Also, it's best to wear a full face mask as these things can easily knock teeth out or fly into an open mouth and cause serious tissue damage and I find it very hard to breathe through my mask so running between cover all the time has me constantly winded.

Do you have a better alternative for a face mask? I have a plastic full-coverage mask and can't breathe worth a damn through it.

Check out Arnies airsoft- lots of discussions about face masks & alternatives, and links to retailers; I'm digging the homemade ones- custom made to fit your face perfectly & have mesh over the mouths and eyes to improve airflow.

Im TriggerHappyChappy over there :)

lol

ow, I did some searching on the net and those assault rifles look bad as, the AEG ones.
But those stock fps of max 450 seems a but dull :) and I've seen some online shops that sell custom AEG rifles wich are upgraded, and one shop in Hawai even goes up to + 700 fps :gasp:
But they only ship to the us :oops:

Are there any other custom shops (preferably in europe) that do custom AEG's? :)

I use an RWS model 75 Olympic grade air rifle for Marksmanship training. It keeps my skills sharp for the standing and prone positions in competition. I shoot prone outside at 10m on a pretty challenging target into a pellet trap. This is a dual piston type air rifle and the sound it makes is not recognized as anything associated with a gun so I've never had any trouble using it. I've had it for yrs and yrs and its shoots like new. Don't think they make it any more.

This one came with a 5 shot 10m test target from RWS that was one hole.

I have another air rifle that I started training with when I 1st started competing, an RWS model 45 thats much faster, was claimed to be 1000fps. Over my chronograph, it averaged 990fps shooting RWS pellets. It took about 6months and I actually got better than the rifle would let me shoot and I bought the Mod 75. Use the Mod 45 for 'pest' control now.

I pick off squirrels now and then with my Gammo CFX. Got a little 625 fps 12 shot semi-auto CO2 pellet rifle, too - fun little gun, but basically just pisses the squirrels off(makes them dance), so I only pick off chipmonks with it. The CFX is a bit heavy, but it is accurate and quite powerful (will shoot clean through the varments). The CO2 rifle is super light and surprisingly accurate and easy to shoot, but only the 1st clip has enough nut to knock anything down(good for maybe 36-48 shots of target practice with a CO2 cartridge - first 12 shots have decent zip).

I shot an innocent bird in my backyard once with a daisy BB fun. I had mixed feelings about the incident.

I'm not much of a airsoft or pellet gun type of person but I've been getting back into paintball after taking a 4-year long break. I plan on going to D-Day Oklahoma scenario game 2010.

625 fps :whistle:
is that stock? or did you do some upgrades to it?

Main reason for the ~400fps limit is because people skirmish with them (shoot each other in wargame scenareos); if you have a higher speed, they become classed as firearms (in the Uk atleast), as they are full auto capable in many cases, plus anything much over 1J of power can be 'lethal' if you are shot in the face (eye). If you just want a high powered fun gun/ sniper rifle, thats what proper airguns are for really; Im rockin a RWS series 500+, .177 calibre monster:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...uff/rifle1.jpg

and my target airpistol, a Weihrauch HW75:

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...ff/pistol1.jpg

I know in Michigan .177 cal air rifles are not considered firearms, but any air rifles larger than .177 (.22 or .25 cal) are considered firearms.

hmm I am doing some research about Gas Blow Back rifles (no AEG's) and seeking to get a M16 that can handle at least 500fps. (more than that could really damage internals I've read a lot)

anybody knows stores that make custom upgrades of gas rifles?

Speaking of this, what would be the best solution to keep the neighbors dogs (3 of them) off my yard? They constantly "mark their territory" and crap all over the place. I call the cops and they just never show up, and even if they did, by the time they mosey their way over, the dogs are long gone and it's just my word against the hick neighbor's.

Anyway, I want something that can hurt, but not kill, these animals. Something that won't break the skin, but if pelted with enough of them, the dogs will get the hint. I killed a dog a while back while riding my bike on the street. It kept biting at my heels and I got angry andput too much force into the kick (tried to compensate for the lack of power from a seated position). The dog flew and didn't get back up; all while the ower was watching. I did warn them a number of times. I felt bad about that since it was really the owner's fault, not the dog.

I don't want to spend a ton of cash, just something easy/fast to use that isn't lethal, yet gives them the message.

Stock - "up to 625 fps". Only about a $60 gun IIRC. It is a great little plinker and gets more use than the CFX.

Brian - a BB gun would fun for the job(get a little fully automatic one!).

I bought both of mine at http://www.airgundepot.com/

Any recomendations for good pellet gun for around $100. I had a winchester 1000x and it worked pretty good. I gave it too my son and would like to get another one.

Brian- any cheapy AEG will do fine, something small like an mp5k or uzi would be handy (easily concealed and less obvious to anyone watching). I'd suggest a quickl look through the retailer lists on Arnies airsoft. Airsoft guns as such sting when you are hit, but its rare that they will break the skin- only at very very close range and/or with a highly upgraded gun. Failing that; Blackwidow... :yes:

Rivermaxx- I would look for something like a Daisy repeater rifle or something similar, plenty of cheap airguns out there for backyard fun.

I have an Air Arms TX200 that I used to shoot field target with and a couple of cheap spring airsoft pistols that a mate and I used to skirmish with in the woods behind our houses, he did have one too but a BB broke his tooth and his parents took his gun away so I bought another and we carried on regardless but with face protection now as well as goggles, great fun.

Brian, spring pistols are very cheap, easily concealable unlike an AEG and hit plenty hard enough to discourage a dog from wandering onto your patch.

Niel, nice RWS, it looks a lot like a theoben rapid 7 that I had a go with once I wish I could have afforded one at the time but with a nicer stock, the tyrolean was nice but I'm a sucker for thumbholes, nice scope too are you into field target? My scope was a hunting model I got cheap and I would have loved a big paralax wheel like that.

Nah, no comp shooting unfortunately- nowhere near by really, though Im looking into a few indoor places a bit further away; closest I get to FT shooting at present is going for a walk down the woods and blapping some paper targets stuck to old tins of Cadbury's Roses :lol: All perfectly legal... :whistle:

I do like the Rapid series alot, main reason I got the RWS was because you can use a styrup pump to refill it, rather than having to remove the buddy bottle & refill it from a divers bottle ( buddy bottle's valve doesnt like any kind of hand or foot pump aparently ).

I was wondering where this post went. I have several air guns:

Crossman 760 pumpmaster shortened barrel with suppessor. I used to kill squirrels with it. It's not real powerful or accurate (smooth bore) but it is good enough for 15 kills. Some of you may think it's cruel but I got tired of fixing the hole in the attic where they were hiding their nuts. Little Bastards.

Crossman 1377 classic converted to .22cal and modified so that it shoots right at 700 fps. It's a single shot pump. Shoots real nice, but LOUD. My Marlin model 60 .22 rifle (20" bbl) is quieter.

Crossman 2240 .22 cal CO2 single shot. It's shoots pretty well in the summer, but you have to keep it warm in the winter or you only get a few shots.

Crossman Storm XT 1000fps .177 cal. is powerful enough for small game but the least accurate gun I have even with the scope. I bought this when I was on a trip to West Virgina and had to stay in a cabin with no TV.

We have no laws regarding airguns here in Texas. I know a few prople that have custom air rifles that are big bore as in 9mm and .45 cal and are powerful enough for boar.

Jeff

I have a Crossman 2100 classic pump rifle and the crossman classic pump pistol. Both are fairly inexpensive yet pretty accurate. Haven't used them much in the last 10 years other than killing the occasional squirrel or bird that pisses me off by waking me up at 6:30am on the weekend outside my bedroon window!

You'd like Gary Barnes, aka Barnes Pneumatic. He custom builds high powered airrifles and pistols in anything upto about .87 calibre, with power levels upto ~800ft'/lbs; think I actually came a few times just looking through all his work :yes:

http://www.glbarnes.com/catalog12_22_07.html (tons of pages to look through)

When I started looking for info for increasing the power on my 1377 I ran across Barnes air rifles and thought they were art, not my taste but anything that can take down a boar I have no other choice but to be impressed.:mdr:

When I shot smallbore silhouette I was waiting for our match to start and watched some airgun guys practice and they asked if I wanted to give it a try. The gun one of them handed me was a feinwerkbau, not sure what model it was but it was sweet! The trigger was so light it was crazy, I think it was set for 6 ounces.

BTW when I said there were no laws I meant that you can buy any type of air rifle with out any issues. There are city laws about shooting inside city limits, but no restrictions on adult ownership.

Jeff