New Lexus LFA
 

Anyone seen this? Looking pretty bad ass!

http://www.lexus.com/LFA/

Saw that on Top Gear the other day.

that's a sweet looking toyota

I saw it in Tokyo last year. The concept actually came out a few years back.

Stupidly expensive Toyota

yeah, you could get a half dozen GTR's at that price :lol:

For that price, nothing impresses me. The only thing I really like is the 9000RPM V10.

The baby V10 is cool, but I rather buy a couple of GTR's

nothing really special,just another overpriced seudo-supercar. 554hp and only a 202mph top speed? a viper beats that and a ZR-1 corvette does the same trick faster with 2 less cylinders.personally,ill stick with a good ole american V-8 (but to please the guys who like foreign i would take a GTR over that any day)--josh

I'd save my pennies for the Ferrari 458 Italia. Not been a fan of Ferraris in recent times, modern day Lambos are just stunning, but the 458 has looks to kill :surprised:.

I'm going to have to check that out. Welcome to RCM!!:party:

In my opinion, there's a lot more to cylinder count when it comes to power output. Displacement and forced induction have a huge impact.

The Viper is an naturally aspirated 8.4L V10 (you probably knew that) and has 600hp.

The ZR-1 is 6.2L and has a supercharger. It puts out 638hp.

The LF-A is only 4.8L and naturally aspirated.

If you ask me, the LF-A's engine is a much more impressive engineering accomplishment. That's about 115hp per liter. The Viper doesn't even come close to 100hp per liter and the ZR-1 is about 100 but needs a supercharger to do it.

Also, top speed shouldn't be the most significant value in a car. Aerodynamics play a huge role in the top speed of a vehicle.

Look at the Viper ACR. Same 600hp powerplant as a regular viper, top speed is "only" 177mph. Formula 1 car. 900hp and 1350lbs, to speed of "only" ~200mph.

While I admit the LF-A is incredibly overpriced, I still say it's quite a piece of engineering, and impressive coming from Lexus/Toyota.

Many thanks _PARALYZED_ :yipi:. I'm finding RCM an invaluable source of info relating to my new ERBE.:wink:

+1000 for any kind of n/a engine to keep up with the super cars is just incredible... drop a supercharger on the beast and you will get numbers higher than that of the viper

Couldn't agree more. Top Gear reviewed the Lexus (broadcast last Sunday), and came to a similar conclusion. The Japanese build some incredible engines, especially Honda. Their V-Tec engines, such as those in the Civic Type-R, have been producing 100 bhp per tonne for years and yet are as reliable as the day is long. However, the vast majority of this power is only available over 6500 rpm, so it need thrashing to perform. The larger displacement engines have a much greater spread of torque through the rev band, so power delivery seems much more effortless.

Personally, I think BMW have mastered the art of encompassing both of these qualities without the huge price for the privilege. The V10 engine found in the modern day M5 has large displacement but with the ability to rev freely up to nearly 9k. Thats an impressive screamer alright :lol:. Ferrari and Lamborghini also produce similar features, but with a supercar price tag.

BP-Revo,its not just about the raw power available.its about useable horsepower.the vette and viper has a much better powerband than small dispacement engines which usually have a good peak at about 6000-7000 RPM .japan does build some amazing engines,but its nothing american engines havent matched before.its all about tolerances.the V-tec engines really arent anything special,they are just blueprinted to EXACTING specifications to gain very good numbers.its not like we havent done it already.blueprinted regal turbo-t's have reached 400+ HP oldsmobile nailheads reached 350+hp with tiny ports in the 1950's and nascar has 850HP naturally aspirated and RESTRICTED and they really arent anything special.im not bashing the jap cars engineering but its simple economics. because it is so expensive to do on a large scale over here we generally dont get as high a specified tolerances on our motors....phew...i think my finger tips are bleeding now....--josh

but to really get my point you only have to look at this: