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rawfuls 01.23.2010 02:53 PM

My New Computer Specs ~ Need Some Help As Well -_- Again..
 
Well, my dad wanted me to pass my computer on to my mom, and gave me a new combo from Fry's...

Processor: AMD Athlon II X4 620 - 2.6GHz
Motherboard - Biostar A770E3
Videocard - Nvidia GeForce GTS 250
Memory - Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) 1333Mhz

Now heres the question, the memory says i5 & i7, and since it has been freezing me out, and BSODing me, I'm wondering if it really is the memory specs, or if it's just defective sticks.

Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-706-_-Product

Can't find the motherboard anywhere

Videocard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ch%20gts%20250

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-278-_-Product

Now you may be asking why I bought $110 memory, it's because it was on a rebate sale, $110 - $40 MIR = about 70 bucks...

Help!

I'm waiting until they get more stock to go exchange it, but we're talking about the 29th of January...

kraegar 01.23.2010 03:42 PM

Download memtest86 and test your memory - that will tell you if it's bad or not. http://www.memtest86.com/ Just burn the cd & run it. It's pretty self explanatory.

rawfuls 01.23.2010 03:45 PM

I had run that the other night, but didn't know how to read the blue page.
Or do I let it sit? It pretty much stayed on a blinking underscore for about 5 minutes, should I have let it keep going?

Freezebyte 01.23.2010 05:00 PM

Did you do a fresh rebuild of windows?

rawfuls 01.23.2010 05:04 PM

Of course!

kraegar 01.23.2010 10:23 PM

memtest86 will give you a couple options about using 1 cpu or 2 (use 1), and then test your ram. Let it sit there till it doesn't look like it's doing anything (it should run a bunch of tests, showing progress in the top right). It will either stop and say ERROR somehwhere on the screen, or say everything completed to 100% (with no error indication)

ikpthegame 01.24.2010 04:30 AM

i dont think it would be the mem causing the problem. what are the PSU specs? also did the heatsink seat right on the cpu? you may also wanna look around and see if anyone has had problems with that board, i never have cared for biostar.

rawfuls 01.24.2010 01:01 PM

Decided to go run to Fry's and get the mem exchanged.
Called ahead, put a set on hold under my name, got there, and they said they had just sold the last set, the one that was under my name.

I wasn't exactly happy.
Came back home with the bad mem, and decided I would run the memtest again, as I clicked the button, nothing.

Strange, clicked it again (button to power up), nothing, nada. Not even a fan moves.

So I guess this means my power supply just went out, I isolated everything, took everything out, mobo, etc, put it on a couple antistatic bags on top of my case, with only power cord, tried powering it up, nada.

My dad doesn't think it's PSU, but I pretty much just proved it is, unless the mobo isn't taking power.

Which I then took my old E8500 combo, tried to power it up, nothing,.
I redid all the front panel pins, etc.

Hoping to pick up a higher end power supply later today, but my dad will probably be getting another budget case for my old E8500 (for my mom), as it won't have anything that will powerhog the PSU, and maybe, just maybe, a new, better, name branded, PSU for me. yippee.

rawfuls 01.24.2010 06:51 PM

Well, I ended up getting the CoolMax V-600

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-079-_-Product

Not exactly the best one I could've gotten, but it was a great price for a 600W.

I memtested both sticks, and they both came out clean.
The first time I had both in, it BSOD'd three times, took one out, tested fine, took it out, put second one in, tested fine. Put both back in, and it's working perfectly.
I am just puzzled, I guess the PSU just couldn't handle two DDR3 sticks?

Bizarre.

Looks like this may be my new computer, I was thinking about returning it, and waiting for a cheap Intel Quad, but now that it's working, and working stable, I'm gonna adapt some stuff into it, see if I like it.

I still got about a week and a half left to see if I wanna return it.

ikpthegame 01.25.2010 03:13 AM

sounds like the rail that handels the memory is not up to the task, or it could be a board problem as well.

rawfuls 01.25.2010 11:29 AM

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking

But, as I was powering my computer on this morning, it froze up two times at the Windows 7 logo, that pulses....

Not sure if that's the memory, if it's just something else.

I'll find out after I exchange the memory on the 29th... Hopefully

bdebde 01.25.2010 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kraegar (Post 345525)
Download memtest86 and test your memory - that will tell you if it's bad or not. http://www.memtest86.com/ Just burn the cd & run it. It's pretty self explanatory.

Memtest will tell you if the memory is the problem!

rawfuls 01.25.2010 07:30 PM

Well, my computer just froze up, and BSOD'd me, took a stick out, and voila, works perfectly.
Must be a stick of RAM..
Hoping they restock these soon!

JERRY2KONE 01.25.2010 11:48 PM

Sounds like
 
It sounds like you have a compatability problem with your memory. That is what happens when you try to go budgit on memory. One thing that I have learned is that if you really want to build a good computer you need to invest for the best and get it over with. The problems it will save you in the long run are worth it. Never go for cheap memory.

Freezebyte 01.26.2010 12:27 AM

Corsair is hardly "Budget" memory. Some mobo's and their chipsets, especially the more non familiar brand name ones like Biostar are pickier about memory then others. You get what you pay for

rawfuls 01.26.2010 12:48 AM

Welps, my dad took me on a quick Fry's run, I had the same stuff (AMD Athlon II X4 620 and Biostar A770E3 and same RAM) on hold for me.

Silly guy didn't believe me that the stuff behind him was under my name, I had to go find the guy whom I talked to (I love having a slightly good memory of voices), and had him come over and identify me as the person who had to return it (Under my address and such)

My dad decided to wander off, and grab this:
Corsair XMS3 4GB 1333mhz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-251-_-Product

So basically, I'm running this RAM, if it crashes again, we'll toss in the other exchanged RAM, if that crashes, I guess we'll have to run back to Fry's and pick up a new mobo and processor, and go from there.

I'm really thankful Fry's is only about 8 miles roundtrip, while some people may have a Fry's 10 miles, one way...
I've made at least 3 visits, and one guy in Returns knows me quite well.....

Anyways, so far using the new RAM, it's booted up faster, a lot faster, may mean nothing, but meh.

I'm gonna keep using it for a few days, if it works flawlessly, toss in the exchanged RAM, if it works, then we'll exchange it for a newer box, if possible, if not just keep the exchanged RAM and return the XMS3.

Confusing, yes... But hopefully it'll be worth it.

Still trying to revive my imploded SATA drive.. Doesn't detect it at all, not even BIOS, BIOS freezes (well, doesn't freeze, but refuses to start) trying to detect my SATAs...

Really a bummer, I had a few school folders that I really need, and would like back, a few Final's as well.... Heard rumors about freezing it, dropping it, meh, doubt I'll do them, might just keep it as my favorite paperweight... Anyone ever try to revive one of these?

Freezebyte 01.26.2010 02:19 AM

You could try putting it in a ziploc bag and freezing it overnight in the freezer. I did this at my old tech job for "dead" drives and I managed to get some drives to live long enough to pull data off of them. But it sounds like the controller board itself is bad because the BIOS can't even recognize it, in which case, your pretty much screwed unless you get the EXACT same drive and attempt to swap the PCB boards on them which i've heard people do.

rawfuls 01.26.2010 02:26 AM

Sounds like a plan, though, I can hear and feel (inside the antistatic bag outside of my case, wasn't trying to mount it.) the disc wind up and run, but it won't read, at all.

JERRY2KONE 01.26.2010 03:14 AM

Too much hassle.
 
It seems like you are going through too much hassle for a new system. I would just take it back and get a replacement for the whole shooting match. Start fresh and be safe. If you try to do too much with it, you are going to end up having it thrown back in your face that you messed it up.

rawfuls 01.26.2010 11:12 AM

I too was thinking this, which was why I had the processor and motherboard and RAM on hold for me...

My dad just decided to try the RAM first.


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