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fastbaja5b 02.02.2010 10:08 AM

Who stays and who goes?
 
Well the wifey has put her foot down, maximum of 3 toys while we're havin issues with bills etc.

Baja 5B - Stays that's a given.

Mini Revo - Great for vacations so that stays.

So that leaves me with Savage Flux and Hyper ST

The Savage Flux takes a pounding and is tough as, but it can be a bit of a handful.

The Hyper ST is fairly new to me (novelty value)

Do I:

Ditch the Hyper ST with the HW Brushless ESC and 9XL and keep the Flux

Ditch the Flux and keep the Hyper ST

Ditch the Flux as a roller, and the HW/9XL combo and transplant the Flux electrics to the Hyper.

Been told the Hyper ST's are fairly tough, but Savage Flux tough??

Any suggestions / input most welcome!

Bondonutz 02.02.2010 10:10 AM

Get rid of the wife and buy 2 more RC's ?

magman 02.02.2010 10:13 AM

"Ditch the Flux as a roller, and the HW/9XL combo and transplant the Flux electrics to the Hyper."

This would be my choice unfortunately. I am also struggling with bills, so I know how you feel. I am considering selling my 2 crt.5 and all electronics just to help out a bit..

good luck

fastbaja5b 02.02.2010 10:24 AM

Anyone have any idea how tough these Hyper ST's are though>?

lincpimp 02.02.2010 11:47 AM

I have had both (and a wife) so I would suggest to get rid of the hyper, and keep the flux. I would much rather have a mt than a truggy.

I need to sell some stuff myself, running low on savings and I do not like that feeling...

georgec 02.02.2010 03:52 PM

If you race gut the HPI put it in the Hyper. If you bash keep the HPI
IMHO:whistle:.

Finnster 02.02.2010 05:32 PM

IDk, I have a savage and a hyper. I would say the hyper is tougher, but cannot bash all the places the savage does. Gratntned it does really well, and is much better suited for high speed driving, but the low clearance hurts sometimes. Amazingly tough truck tho.

JERRY2KONE 02.02.2010 06:00 PM

Hide
 
Hide the mini Revo and tell her that you only have three.

Take on a second job delivering pizza at the local Pizza Hut to make up the difference. I did that for about a year back in the mid 90's and with salery, mileage, and tips I averaged between $15 and $20 an hour. Pulling 30 to 40 hours a week I made enough to get me through the rough times, and picked up a few toys along the way. With 8 kids(3 at home now) we have been faced with issues all year, but I refuse to sell off my stuff. I just defend with "what are you selling off" and she drops it. I am retired working part time and still make my cut, so not much to complain about in my book. We should not be forced to give up the things we really enjoy as an altimatum. Thats just not right.

Bondonutz 02.02.2010 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 347266)
Hide the mini Revo and tell her that you only have three.

Take on a second job delivering pizza at the local Pizza Hut to make up the difference. I did that for about a year back in the mid 90's and with salery, mileage, and tips I averaged between $15 and $20 an hour. Pulling 30 to 40 hours a week I made enough to get me through the rough times, and picked up a few toys along the way. With 8 kids(3 at home now) we have been faced with issues all year, but I refuse to sell off my stuff. I just defend with "what are you selling off" and she drops it. I am retired working part time and still make my cut, so not much to complain about in my book. We should not be forced to give up the things we really enjoy as an altimatum. Thats just not right.

WELL SAID !
A few years ago the now wife and I had a hard time getting by when I was out of work on a workmans comp dealie-o w/my knee injury. Her hours were cut at the same time and she says to me
"You might have to sell a couple RC's to pay bills"
My retort was "you can F*** yourself too !"
I'm still paying 2/3rds of the bills with my comp checks and picking up the slack with garage sales and with ebay. Maybe you need to sell your stuff or get a PT job ?
That was the end of that conversation LOL

JERRY2KONE 02.02.2010 08:07 PM

Always ways.
 
There are always ways around tough times, but you have to be willing to lower your standards just a bit and do whatever it takes to make things right. There are tons of odd & end jobs that one can do without needing a whole lot of education, experience, or start up money if you really want to keep your head above water. I have delivered pizzas, detailed autos, cut lawns, made and sold woodcrafts and lawn furniture, and there are always other things that one can do without having to kill yourself or be a rocket scinentist to figure it out. You can go out with a vehicle and collect wood downed tree limbs and cut it up for firewood and sell it by the bundle right outside your own home. I love the toy collection I have and as long as there is food on the table I am keeping my stuff. Tell the wife to go out and take on a second job. We tell our kids if they want pocket money to get off their butts and go cut lawns or wash cars for spending $$$. They actually do pretty well on their own. It teaches them self respect and independance. Don't let the wifey over run you with crap like that. You have to put your foot down and let her know who is the king of your castle.

JThiessen 02.02.2010 08:23 PM

Dismantle the hyper into parts, put it in a box, and ship an empty box to Jerry. Put "Pizza" on the outside.....

riverat1540 02.02.2010 08:29 PM

As Quagmire would say "you could whore yourself out to a thousand fat chicks for 50 bucks a piece, or a 50 really fat chicks for 1,000 bucks apiece. dont look at me like that. fat chicks need love too. but they gotta pay"

JERRY2KONE 02.02.2010 08:31 PM

Ha ha ha ha ha
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 347297)
Dismantle the hyper into parts, put it in a box, and ship an empty box to Jerry. Put "Pizza" on the outside.....

OK Freakshow. That made me laugh. Hey I'm just trying to help the guy out here in a way for him to keep from giving up his play stuff. We cannot let these women run us into the ground. I am very lucky (3rd time around) but we all know how nasty they fight, and we always seem to get screwed in the long run. So we have to stand up for our selves or go down in flames. My paycheck and our kids SSI goes directly into our joint account for food, bills and what not, but my retirement money is mine to do with what I want. And she still gives me cash (mad money) every week to keep my pockets full. Of course it took many years to get to this point. Believe me I have had my lean years.

fastbaja5b 02.02.2010 10:01 PM

..well at the moment I work 55 hrs a week (2 jobs) she's not working right now, always seems to be sick, and when she has a full time job she's home sick maybe 1 day in 5-10 on average. I put all my coin in the joint account and allow myself $50 a fortnight for my hobby.

But apparantly I am the unreasonable one.

georgec 02.02.2010 10:07 PM

Male prostitute! hmmmm :whip:

Bondonutz 02.02.2010 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastbaja5b (Post 347333)
..well at the moment I work 55 hrs a week (2 jobs) she's not working right now, always seems to be sick, and when she has a full time job she's home sick maybe 1 day in 5-10 on average. I put all my coin in the joint account and allow myself $50 a fortnight for my hobby.

But apparantly I am the unreasonable one.

Typical, sorry to hear.

Finnster 02.02.2010 10:11 PM

>_<

Sounds like you got some things to work out... otoh, according to women we are always the unreasonable ones

skellyo 02.02.2010 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastbaja5b (Post 347333)
..well at the moment I work 55 hrs a week (2 jobs) she's not working right now, always seems to be sick, and when she has a full time job she's home sick maybe 1 day in 5-10 on average. I put all my coin in the joint account and allow myself $50 a fortnight for my hobby.

But apparantly I am the unreasonable one.

Is she bad sick or something like allergies acting up sick? Being sick on average more than once a week, IMO, she either has a chronic issue or she's a hypochondriac.

BrianG 02.02.2010 10:40 PM

I currently have 9 operational vehicles, one not, and one in the process. And unless I get into dire straights, I will not sell any just to make a few bucks. I look at it this way; this hobby keeps me busy and challenged, and hurts no one. I only spend my disposable income on it, so the bills are getting paid. Sure, if I didn't have this hobby (as well as smoking), I'd have quite a bit more cash, but it would only get eaten up with something else. I don't have a problem if my better half goes out and buys doilies, boots, jewelry, picture frames, or any other things I deem useless; it's her disposable income.

I would tell her a couple things if she is insistent:

1) Sacrificing works both ways; if you have to sell something, then she has to sell something of equal value.

2) R/C stuff has a very low resale value considering what is spent on it. If anything, tell her you won't get any more things, but selling what you already have makes no financial sense.

lincpimp 02.02.2010 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastbaja5b (Post 347333)
..well at the moment I work 55 hrs a week (2 jobs) she's not working right now, always seems to be sick, and when she has a full time job she's home sick maybe 1 day in 5-10 on average. I put all my coin in the joint account and allow myself $50 a fortnight for my hobby.

But apparantly I am the unreasonable one.

Time to open a seperate acct, and put enough money in to pay the bills. Stop putting money in the joint acct and just tell her you will pay her back if she buys something you both need. Sucks to have to do this but some people just need a dose of reality. I feel like crap some days but if I do not go to work the business will fail. Blessing and a curse to own your own business, as it owns you most of the time. But it drives me to always do more and do it smarter. Tell her to get off her ass and get a job. If she feels bad tell her to get one with medical and then she can get whatever fixed... Hate to tell you to start a fight, but being nice will only make you a nice dumbass...

fastbaja5b 02.02.2010 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 347342)
Is she bad sick or something like allergies acting up sick? Being sick on average more than once a week, IMO, she either has a chronic issue or she's a hypochondriac.

Do hypochondriac's ever admit to being hypochondriacs?

lincpimp 02.02.2010 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastbaja5b (Post 347353)
Do hypochondriac's ever admit to being hypochondriacs?

Maybe trying to hide their issues in plain sight?

Finnster 02.02.2010 11:31 PM

RC acct FTW.

fastbaja5b 02.02.2010 11:39 PM

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Well as it is I've agreed to ditch one, and put the funds in my son's college fund out of her reach, so back to the initial Q I guess. Am leaning twd the Hyper, having raced up to 6mths ago I still have a weakness for it, so if I put the Savage Flux gear in there, how would I gear it? (4s lipo is the local limit) here is a pic as she is now (yes thats a hobbypro motor mount, Mike was [and is?] out of stock of the Hyper mounts *boooo!*)

Semi Pro 02.02.2010 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastbaja5b (Post 347353)
Do hypochondriac's ever admit to being hypochondriacs?

yes but you have to get alot of people to tell them they are for an extended amount of time ( thats what it took to get my GF to admit she was a hypochondriac)

_paralyzed_ 02.03.2010 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastbaja5b (Post 347374)
if I put the Savage Flux gear in there, how would I gear it?

what tires do you run on it? what spur gear? gear for 35-40mph

fastbaja5b 02.03.2010 12:47 AM

They have Losi Rims and the Tyres look to be Proline Bowties.

Smallest pinion in Mod 1 I have is a 17t, on 4s A123 that'd be 40.82mph

Would that work? Obviously on 4s Lipo I'd have to find a 15t pinion and would land at 40.39mph

Keep in mind the Savage Flux motor won't allow an external heatsink or fan due to it's non-standard dimensions.

_paralyzed_ 02.03.2010 01:15 AM

a savage flux motor is a neu motor and doesn't need silly fans, It's a cool character all by itself. On 4s you won't even be pushing it. Your gearing sounds about right.

fastbaja5b 02.03.2010 01:37 AM

..maybe it'll stop the esc fan coming on as it always seems to in the Flux too

JERRY2KONE 02.03.2010 02:39 AM

College funds?
 
[QUOTE=fastbaja5b;347374]Well as it is I've agreed to ditch one, and put the funds in my son's college fund out of her reach

So let me share my veiw about college funds. There have been a few studies done about the wealth of having your parents pay for your college as apposed to working your own way through school, or acqiring some level of scholarship. We have five adult children who have all found their own way through college, and in fact one of them is working on her Masters degree right now. None of them recieved or asked us for money, because we raised them with the belief that if they truly want to go to school they will find their own way to do it, and have more respect for where the money is going. With the economy being what it is today saving for your kids to go to school 15 years from now, when you have no idea whether or not they will even go to college is the least of our financial problems. Not finding a happy medium with finances in a family is the number one killer of a marriage. You have to work on, and reach some sort of an agreement to which both parties are somewhat satisfied with their half of the responsibilities. If you can aford it the play money has to be almost on the same level as well or there is going to be jealousy at some point that will explode into arguments that will end your relationship. Along with that needs to be some level of equal input towards paying the way for the lifestyle you have. We are not in the 1950's any more. If you want a woman to respect you then you have to lay down the law in YOUR HOUSEHOLD and stand by your principles. If not then you are doomed to being treated like a child yourself.

JThiessen 02.03.2010 10:40 AM

A little highjack here - Jerry, how did you find a way around the FAFSA forms. They seem almost taylored to spefically make the families pay. I agree with your stance on making the kids responsible for paying their way through (using loans/jobs). But they way the system is set up now, it was impossible for my step-daughter to qualify due to my income. Thats the other part that ticks me off - if I were to divorce my wife (which I dont intend to - at least not today...:whistle:), all of those loans are in my name, not hers, or the daughter.

riverat1540 02.03.2010 11:17 AM

Like ive told my other half when times get tight, my hobbies are my hobbies and if i sell something the money is going back into my hobbies, All of our money is seperate and we alternate buying groceries, and split the other bills. and if one of us needs help we help each other out, but anything borrowed is payed back unless otherwise agreed. it has worked great for us for 5 years now. my hobbies are understood as long as i dont spend money i dont have on them.

nitrostarter 02.03.2010 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 347468)
A little highjack here - Jerry, how did you find a way around the FAFSA forms. They seem almost taylored to spefically make the families pay. I agree with your stance on making the kids responsible for paying their way through (using loans/jobs). But they way the system is set up now, it was impossible for my step-daughter to qualify due to my income. Thats the other part that ticks me off - if I were to divorce my wife (which I dont intend to - at least not today...:whistle:), all of those loans are in my name, not hers, or the daughter.


Same thing happened with my parent's income disqualifying me. Problem was that my parent's took Jerry's approach and I had to fund myself through college even though they forced me to go. Luckily, my scores were good enough to land an almost full ride through 4yrs. I only had to shell out some book and fee money.

Those FAFSA form are exactly that, a deterrent from anything above lower income family to getting public assistant to further their education. Way to go Congress.

georgec 02.03.2010 12:06 PM

After reading all the posts on this subject it confirms just how blessed I am! My avatar is a picture taken of my wife and I in 1972 on Titusville beach in FL a year after we started dating and not only are we still IN love with one another she is still my best friend! We have never had separate accounts except for business reasons. We never argue about money even though at times it has been tight. I respect her opinion as she does mine and are both willing to compromise when need be. Maybe we are the exception to what is now normal but I would have nothing less.

lutach 02.03.2010 12:42 PM

This is why I don't have a wife and I'm not planning on getting married. I will make sure when I do pass away, everything goes for my daughter. Now back to the topic.

Keep all of them. Make sure your bills are paid first before getting anything else, but with the vehicles you have, you shouldn't really need anything else. Now if you collect the rare ones which can make some money down the line, then get one every month. Think about it, you're making the money so you need to enjoy it after the bills are paid first. Does she spend money on stuff not related to bills? If so then you should set some rules since the source of income is coming from your hard work.

I know someone who has similar issues and a while back I told him to not let the wife rule your life and he said I didn't know what I was talking about. Now that someone is having troubles and their marriage isn't looking too good. I told that person he was warned before it happened and now he has to live with it.

Have fun with the stress relievers and if the wife gets on you, crank that 5B in the house and make some jumps out of the couch.

t-maxxracer32 02.03.2010 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 347422)

So let me share my veiw about college funds. There have been a few studies done about the wealth of having your parents pay for your college as apposed to working your own way through school, or acqiring some level of scholarship. We have five adult children who have all found their own way through college, and in fact one of them is working on her Masters degree right now. None of them recieved or asked us for money, because we raised them with the belief that if they truly want to go to school they will find their own way to do it, and have more respect for where the money is going. With the economy being what it is today saving for your kids to go to school 15 years from now, when you have no idea whether or not they will even go to college is the least of our financial problems. Not finding a happy medium with finances in a family is the number one killer of a marriage. You have to work on, and reach some sort of an agreement to which both parties are somewhat satisfied with their half of the responsibilities. If you can aford it the play money has to be almost on the same level as well or there is going to be jealousy at some point that will explode into arguments that will end your relationship. Along with that needs to be some level of equal input towards paying the way for the lifestyle you have. We are not in the 1950's any more. If you want a woman to respect you then you have to lay down the law in YOUR HOUSEHOLD and stand by your principles. If not then you are doomed to being treated like a child yourself.

Im going to have to disagree about your view on a college fund. My parents have college funds for me, my brother, and sister and if one of us decides not to go to college they can easily pull the money out and stash it in their savings account. They paid in 150(50 each child) a month since each of us were born and now each of us have about 20k for college. You think that if kids arent paying for their college then they will take it as a joke? the only way that happens is if you raise your kids to think that by giving them everything they've ever wanted. I have seen that happen and it is embarrassing, but not all kids are like that. I respect my parents for building this college fund and i am truly blessed that i do not have to graduate with 20-30k in debt by loans. I will be working while going to college, but that will be savings for my future. College is hella expensive now and without college funds or some type of huge grant some kids just cant afford to make it.
Also gotta realize... once parents are too old to work and need assisted living the kids are the one who need to step up to the plate and take care of them! if they never took care of you when you were a child whos to say if you will take care of them:neutral:

JERRY2KONE 02.03.2010 06:00 PM

Exceptions
 
There are exceptions to ever rule, but for teh most part there are too many kids just hanging out in school doing nothing, because they did not pay their own way. Sorry but I have been around a long time and that is the norm. That rule about taking the parents earnings into account is only in effect up to their 24th birthday. After that it is only their own income that counts. Our son in Seattle is now turning 26 and he is in his second year through grants. Sure it is not easy, but he really does understand what it is all about now. He has had to work his way every step along the way. Of course it has been somewhat of a struggle for him, but he gets it now. He admits that he probably would not have done much with the education if we paid for it. MOST kids just do not understand or care about what it takes to pay for that education until they reach an age in their mid 20's, and for most parents it is too late by then, because they have pissed away tens of thousands of dollars in tuition trying to help their kids out. Like I said if you want something bad enough you will find a way to make it happen for yourself.

As for getting rid of any of your toys, that has to be something that you want to do, because of financial issues, and not something that your wife makes you do against your will. Especially if you are the only one working.

Nard Cox 02.03.2010 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastbaja5b (Post 347333)
..well at the moment I work 55 hrs a week (2 jobs) she's not working right now, always seems to be sick, and when she has a full time job she's home sick maybe 1 day in 5-10 on average. I put all my coin in the joint account and allow myself $50 a fortnight for my hobby.

But apparantly I am the unreasonable one.

First off I was going with what georgec said. But after reading the above quote I would keep 'm and tell her to get a job (and work for +- 40 hours a week).

rchippie 02.03.2010 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bondonutz (Post 347184)
Get rid of the wife and buy 2 more RC's ?


:rofl:

JThiessen 02.03.2010 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 347564)
Our son in Seattle is now turning 26 and he is in his second year through grants.

Is he at UW? If ya ever need to give him an asskickin', let me know!


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