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notnodak 02.11.2010 04:20 AM

Need info on SD Cards
 
I recently bought a netbook and am looking to get some SD Cards for programs and files. Is there a difference in the cards, like a fatser one or anything? I have a 16gb Micro Kingston I'm using in an adapter for the card slot now and was looking to add 3-4 more.

What's_nitro? 02.11.2010 04:44 AM

As far as I know there isn't any difference in speed between cards. :neutral:

squeeforever 02.11.2010 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 349235)
As far as I know there isn't any difference in speed between cards. :neutral:

There is. A big difference at that. Different types are slower or faster, as well as brands. Will it only take SD cards? Or will it take MS Duo, etc?

Nard Cox 02.11.2010 10:04 AM

Wiki SD

What's_nitro? 02.11.2010 12:54 PM

Well, I learned something today! :yes:

Freezebyte 02.11.2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 349235)
As far as I know there isn't any difference in speed between cards. :neutral:

WRONG!
There is a big difference in the quality of the memory as well as specs the manufacture puts into the SD cards. In short, that $10 2 gig Wal-Mart PNY Class 2 won't hold a candle to a Transcend 8gig Class 6.

Speaking of which, without going to the supreme high quality stuff used in proffesional photography, these are the best, I love mine

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820208293

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820208513

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820208483

BrianG 02.11.2010 01:05 PM

Keep in mind that all current SD/SSD memory has a ~100k write life (per "cell"). So after a year or so (depending on usage and how much data is actually written to the device), you can start getting errors from "bad" sectors. Luckily, the firmware spreads the write cycles out evenly throughout the device to minimize this, but it still happens.

Freezebyte 02.11.2010 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 349275)
Keep in mind that all current SD/SSD memory has a ~100k write life (per "cell"). So after a year or so (depending on usage and how much data is actually written to the device), you can start getting errors from "bad" sectors. Luckily, the firmware spreads the write cycles out evenly throughout the device to minimize this, but it still happens.

Uh, i've had SD that are a couple years old in my digital camera and i've never had that issue. Then again, if your buying "cheap" SD cards, the likely hood of memory failure is more likely but I also would never own a laptop/netbook that didn't have a HDD either.

notnodak 02.11.2010 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 349237)
There is. A big difference at that. Different types are slower or faster, as well as brands. Will it only take SD cards? Or will it take MS Duo, etc?

It just says it a multi reader.

BrianG 02.11.2010 01:15 PM

Cameras use SD cards differently than a netbook. Since he's using the SD card in the netbook for programs/files, it may see a lot of write usage. He'll probably get a year or two of life at the least, just wanted to make the point.

Serum 02.11.2010 01:46 PM

What's your initial plan with this extra memory? isn't it better to invest in USB sticks? if speed isn't an issue, just buy whatever suits you. most memory will do 10Mb/s with ease. Keep in mind that an OS like Vista can use the extra memory for boosting it's performance. (Windows Ready Boost) in this case, faster memory will help.

Freezebyte 02.11.2010 02:05 PM

Give me the model of your netbook so I can see what were dealing with here

_paralyzed_ 02.11.2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 349276)
I also would never own a laptop/netbook that didn't have a HDD either.

Isn't a netbook classified as a netbook because it doesn't have a HDD?

Freezebyte 02.11.2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 349287)
Isn't a netbook classified as a netbook because it doesn't have a HDD?

Not necassarily

BP-Revo 02.11.2010 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 349287)
Isn't a netbook classified as a netbook because it doesn't have a HDD?

No a netbook is classified as a netbook usually just from screen size.

Anything below 13 inches is considered netbook, anything 13 inches above is considered notebook.

I've spent about the last 2 weeks searching if I should get an iPad or a netbook for school since my current laptop is an 11lb monster - Dell XPS M1730.

I decided not to get either since I'm an engineer so we pretty much don't use computers in almost any of the classes (and if we do, it needs to be SolidWorks and a netbook typically won't run that).

For example, here is the netbook I was thinking of getting. It's an ASUS and despite just being a "netbook" it has a 250gb 5400RPM HD, a Dual Core Processor (Atom Dual Core), and a dedicated graphics card (Nvidia ION - basically a 9400M) with a 1366x768 resolution 12" screen (720P capable!).

Why do you want to buy so many SD cards for?

If you want portable storage get an external HD. With most of the (decent) SD cards you pay 2 dollars per gig, with an external D you pay about 10 cents a gig. We just got a 1.5TB external for 130 bucks...

Freezebyte 02.11.2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BP-Revo (Post 349289)

Why do you want to buy so many SD cards for?

If you want portable storage get an external HD. With most of the (decent) SD cards you pay 2 dollars per gig, with an external D you pay about 10 cents a gig. We just got a 1.5TB external for 130 bucks...

I agree

notnodak 02.12.2010 12:55 AM

It's a eMachines em250-1162 with a 2gb Kingston RAM upgrade.

I'm looking at the SD option simply because they are small and do not stick out when inserted into netbook. I also have a couple usb sticks but am just looking for something that fits the case I bought better. I'll probibly just get a couple of 8gb cards.

squeeforever 02.12.2010 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by notnodak (Post 349405)
It's a eMachines em250-1162 with a 2gb Kingston RAM upgrade.

I'm looking at the SD option simply because they are small and do not stick out when inserted into netbook. I also have a couple usb sticks but am just looking for something that fits the case I bought better. I'll probibly just get a couple of 8gb cards.

Why do you need SD cards? Doesn't that thing have a 250gig harddrive? Not sure what you do with it, but try JoliCloud. Its a pretty nice Linux based OS that you can install.

notnodak 02.12.2010 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 349414)
Why do you need SD cards? Doesn't that thing have a 250gig harddrive? Not sure what you do with it, but try JoliCloud. Its a pretty nice Linux based OS that you can install.

Memory goes fast when Ipods/music/movies/videos are used.

Freezebyte 02.13.2010 02:45 AM

Using SD cards isn't the most cost effective way to add extra space. Ahh, that was a Wal-Mart black friday special, hence why the specs on it arn't so great. Throw this badboy in their. If you fill that up, well, time to get a desktop or external USB Terabyte drive. May not be as portable but hey, you can't have everything

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136314

Hell, this ones on sale right now, go for it

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822136459

squeeforever 02.13.2010 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by notnodak (Post 349529)
Memory goes fast when Ipods/music/movies/videos are used.

If thats pretty much all you use it for, I'd get the drive Freeze recommended and just install JoliCloud as the OS. If I remember right, its quite a bit smaller than Windows 7 and should do everything you need. Or you could always do a dualboot, but I wouldn't bother if you don't use it for much other than media.

Freezebyte 02.13.2010 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 349636)
If thats pretty much all you use it for, I'd get the drive Freeze recommended and just install JoliCloud as the OS. If I remember right, its quite a bit smaller than Windows 7 and should do everything you need. Or you could always do a dualboot, but I wouldn't bother if you don't use it for much other than media.

Uh, there is no need to install a smaller OS in a 500gig drive. :neutral:

squeeforever 02.13.2010 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 349638)
Uh, there is no need to install a smaller OS in a 500gig drive. :neutral:

Its just a better OS for netbooks to be honest, and if he filled the 250gig that easy, then a half a dozen or so more gigs couldn't hurt by any means. I mean hell, I have over 500gigs just in movies, right around 50 gigs in music, 30 gigs of ROMS for my PSP, and at least 5gigs of pictures. If he's anything like me he would need every last bit of that 500gigs.

Freezebyte 02.13.2010 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 349639)
Its just a better OS for netbooks to be honest, and if he filled the 250gig that easy, then a half a dozen or so more gigs couldn't hurt by any means. I mean hell, I have over 500gigs just in movies, right around 50 gigs in music, 30 gigs of ROMS for my PSP, and at least 5gigs of pictures. If he's anything like me he would need every last bit of that 500gigs.

I linked for a 640gig on sale from WD, unless you fork over some bucks for the 750gig badboy. I'm glad im not a media whore and don't have gigs and gigs worth of movies and MP3's besides my HTPC.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...tCode=10011295

squeeforever 02.13.2010 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 349640)
I linked for a 640gig on sale from WD, unless you fork over some bucks for the 750gig badboy. I'm glad im not a media whore and don't have gigs and gigs worth of movies and MP3's besides my HTPC.

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...tCode=10011295

I might just have to get one of those for my laptop...I hate the damn 320gig I have in it. :whip:

Freezebyte 02.13.2010 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 349642)
I might just have to get one of those for my laptop...I hate the damn 320gig I have in it. :whip:

Hell, here's their 1TB drive if your in of need space, but get ready to pony up for it. Also, the 750gig and 1TB are slightly larger and won't fit in all laptops

http://www.westerndigital.com/en/pro...sp?driveid=685

squeeforever 02.13.2010 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 349643)
Heh, if you fill that thing up, I dunno what else to tell ya :neutral:

I could easily fill it up, but yea, I hear ya...I have a 1TB external, but I don't like to have stuff on it since I don't carry it with me when I take my laptop not to mention its just a PITA in general.

notnodak 02.13.2010 01:28 PM

Well I'm no media whore but my kids and wife are. I just was thinking that if I used SD cards to store movies and files I would save room on the hard drive to keep my little PC faster. I'm not very smart when it comes to computers.
What is a faster browser Firefox Google Chrome or Explorer?

Freezebyte 02.13.2010 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by notnodak (Post 349678)
Well I'm no media whore but my kids and wife are. I just was thinking that if I used SD cards to store movies and files I would save room on the hard drive to keep my little PC faster. I'm not very smart when it comes to computers.
What is a faster browser Firefox Google Chrome or Explorer?

http://internet-browser-review.toptenreviews.com/

Also, your HDD read/write speed will go down a bit the closer it gets to being maxed out, but not by a huge percentage. Important thing is to keep it defragmented to help minimize drive performance loss. Use this around once or twice a month depending on how much stuff gets moved around on your HDD

http://www.auslogics.com/en/software/disk-defrag/

If you feel comfortable, you can tweak your HDD and OS settings to maximize your HDD performance

http://www.microsoft.com/atwork/maintenance/speed.aspx

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/setup/optimize.aspx

http://www.blifaloo.com/info/winxp_speed.php

And yes, I do this for a living


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