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rckcrwlr 04.15.2010 08:59 AM

Rckcrwlr's Savage Flux HP...or is it?
 
This project moved pretty fast. I saw this several months ago but was unsure of what it was about. Then last months RCDriver sealed the deal.

I would like to introduce you to...


http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_004.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_005.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_007.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_011.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_012.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_014.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_015.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_016.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_017.jpg
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_018.jpg

rckcrwlr 04.15.2010 08:59 AM

Enter Stage Left...

TCSCrawlers.com Savage Flux 5T conversion...Yeap you read right...

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_019.jpg

rckcrwlr 04.15.2010 09:01 AM

The hardest thing to do was tear apart a brand new truck...but it brings back memories of the days we did it with crawlers before there were RTR, ARTR and Kits...

Having Savages in the past, I knew that they were easy to disassemble.

Removed the body, and tires...

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_022.jpg[/URL]

You probably think that this is just a pile of screws...actually they are laid out where they belong on the chassis...makes it easier to replace them.
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_024.jpg[/URL]

One side off. For those of you that never worked on a Savage. It is a Twin Vertical Plate (TVP) chassis. They are a dream to work on. They disassemble easily.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_025.jpg[/URL]

Ten Minutes from out of box to this point.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_026.jpg[/URL]

rckcrwlr 04.15.2010 09:02 AM

Now to reveal the excitement...

Presenting the TCS Flux 5T Conversion Kit...

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_020.jpg[/URL]

This crowbar is actually the front drive shaft...Getting the picture yet... 11.5"

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_021.jpg[/URL]

rckcrwlr 04.15.2010 09:03 AM

The details and accuracy of the 5mm chassis is amazing.


JThiessen 04.15.2010 09:03 AM

If you haven't assembled it yet, get me a measurement on that shaft they included in the kit. Might need to buy one for my LST conversion.

rckcrwlr 04.15.2010 09:04 AM

It took me a total of 1.5 hours from start to finish.

Here it is mocked up with 5B Wheels and Tires.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_032.jpghttp://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_031.jpg

Here it is with the stock tires (Waiting on adapters for the 5B Wheels)
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_033.jpghttp://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_034.jpg

rckcrwlr 04.15.2010 09:04 AM

How about some referencing???

Savage Flux HP vs TCS 5T Conversion (TCS Image)

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...n/PA120039.jpg


Left 2.2 Comp Rig/Center Flux 5B/Right Super (That's right, its my Super)

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_035.jpg

rckcrwlr 04.15.2010 09:06 AM

Waiting on the Savage Wheel Adapters...

Will also be adding the HD wideners to get it more proportional and handle better.

Was planning on running 6s...

What are your thoughts?

Semi Pro 04.15.2010 09:07 AM

very cool, how does it handle?

rckcrwlr 04.15.2010 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 360359)
If you haven't assembled it yet, get me a measurement on that shaft they included in the kit. Might need to buy one for my LST conversion.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5BFlux_021.jpg

rckcrwlr 04.15.2010 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Semi Pro (Post 360365)
very cool, how does it handle?

Just built it last night.

Hope to be able to run it this weekend...but only have two 2s LiPo's so I don't think it will be a real test...

lincpimp 04.15.2010 09:29 AM

6s and a smaller pinion would be my choice. Gear for around 40mph on 6s and see how the motor does. Stock tires are not too heavy but I can imagine those 5t ones will add weight.

thzero 04.15.2010 09:37 AM

1.8 and 2.4lbs respectively.

I'm looking at 5S, as that is what I have for my truggy, running 47/17 (nitro conversion rather than Flux base) for ~40 on a 2200kV (for now).

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 360373)
6s and a smaller pinion would be my choice. Gear for around 40mph on 6s and see how the motor does. Stock tires are not too heavy but I can imagine those 5t ones will add weight.


thzero 04.15.2010 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thzero (Post 360375)
1.8 and 2.4lbs respectively.

I'm looking at 5S, as that is what I have for my truggy, running 47/17 (nitro conversion rather than Flux base) for ~40 on a 2200kV (for now).

Haven't yet run mine either, but I suspect that it'll run well in a straight line and turn like a dog due to the locked 50/50 split of the gearbox. I did do some shaving on the front uprights to get a tad more throw, but don't think it'll do much.

rckcrwlr 04.15.2010 10:09 AM

I picked up the Big Bore shocks and will set it up where it squats some. Hoping to get the chassis more level. With the weight and height of the Proline Trenchers, I am hoping that it may handle pretty good.

thzero 04.15.2010 10:50 AM

I switched to from the standard pink springs to the white springs (the spring the Flux and Big Bores use are the Hellfire springs) to start with due to the increased sprung weight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rckcrwlr (Post 360381)
I picked up the Big Bore shocks and will set it up where it squats some. Hoping to get the chassis more level. With the weight and height of the Proline Trenchers, I am hoping that it may handle pretty good.


josh9mille 04.15.2010 12:06 PM

Is there room between the TVPs to put the batteries? Ditching the battery boxes would be cool if you could

thzero 04.15.2010 12:33 PM

Yes. You should check out my Flux 5T conversion for what I did.

rckcrwlr 04.26.2010 05:39 PM

The plan is to get this thing together for the weekend. Painting the body panels tonight.

I think I have all the upgrades so time to make this thing bulletproof...

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...n/IMG_0002.jpg

rckcrwlr 04.27.2010 07:32 PM

Well have a pile of parts to get on this thing...decided to start tonight...

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...haseII_001.jpg

rckcrwlr 04.27.2010 07:36 PM

First thing was to widen and strengthen the rear suspension. To accomplish this I am adding:

RPM Upper and Lower Arms
HPI Big Bore Alum Shocks
Integy Rear HD Hub Carriers
HPI Wide Track Conversion



rckcrwlr 04.27.2010 09:53 PM

Next was the front end...

Added an Aluminum and Bearing Steering Crank

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...haseII_008.jpg

Here is the before picture of the front Suspension

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...haseII_009.jpg

After Picture, Alum Knuckles and Uprights, Big Bores, HD Wideners and 17mm to 23mm adapters
(waiting on the 24mm's from HPI)

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...haseII_011.jpg

Now just need to get my hands on a fast, high torque servo...
(time to dig in the drawer of the unknown)

rckcrwlr 04.28.2010 07:38 PM

Found a servo laying around...

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...haseII_012.jpg

And started painting. This is a screwy body so hope it looks OK when done...


http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...haseII_013.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...haseII_014.jpg

rckcrwlr 04.28.2010 07:56 PM


BitHed 04.28.2010 11:27 PM

Looks good :) Interested to hear how it runs for you :)

krashkrieg 04.29.2010 11:56 PM

That thing looks incredible!

I can't help but think though, was it really cheaper to buy a new flux and convert all those things or could you just have bought the parts you didn't upgrade and build it from ground up.?

Arct1k 04.30.2010 07:44 AM

Nice job...

thzero 04.30.2010 09:05 AM

Wow... these 5Ts are coming out of the woodwork all over. :)

williamg 05.01.2010 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thzero (Post 362431)
Wow... these 5Ts are coming out of the woodwork all over. :)

Yeah, I think the RC Driver cover article really boosted interest. I know that's what sealed my wallets fate. :party:

rckcrwlr 05.01.2010 12:42 PM

First run...

18T Pinion, 4S LiPo

Can't wait to get my 24mm hexes. These 23mm keep loosening up.

Motor temps never exceeded 100 degrees, ESC was topped out at 120 degrees.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...haseII_043.jpg

rckcrwlr 05.20.2010 12:01 PM

OK...everyone together...

Cow Bell...Cow Bell...Cow Bell

22.2v of pure, insane power...

http://i778.photobucket.com/albums/y...IMG_0001_1.jpg

Arct1k 05.20.2010 12:03 PM

60C Lipos - Sweet lets see how well they run...

suicideneil 05.20.2010 01:47 PM

Yes, indeed we shall....

rckcrwlr 05.20.2010 02:01 PM

Not sure I will be getting it running soon. Work deadlines are cutting into my "Me" time and I'm heading out tomorrow for the Battlegrounds Comp. I will try to get something...

Jahay 05.22.2010 06:06 AM

is there really a huge noticable difference between using 35c and 60c lipos?
how much faster would the battery drain?

suicideneil 05.23.2010 05:36 AM

The battery wouldnt drain any faster- the motor pulls current, the battery doesnt push it. Beyond a certain point ( C rating ) you wouldnt notice any difference in terms of punch because the motor will only pull so much current ( as much as it needs to do what you want it too- acceleration & gearing load wise ), but the lipo may well run cooler as it can provide much more current than it is needed too. Good analogy for that is a fit person working out and a fat person working out; fat person will keel over and die from exhaustion long before the fit person :mdr:

Dj_Sparky 03.29.2011 03:04 AM

Where did you get the HPI Wide Track Conversion and the 24mm adapters? Would like to build one myself. Been thinking about it for awhile, cause I have an XL with a 1527 and I think this would be better suited.

rckcrwlr 03.29.2011 06:52 AM

Ordered them from my local hobby shop.

http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/102530/

Can't find the Wide Track Conversion Kit...Looks like it may be discontinued.

Dj_Sparky 03.29.2011 08:03 AM

Nothing at the link you provided..


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