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E-Revonut 04.19.2010 10:09 AM

Losi strikes out again
 
I have said it before and I'll say it again, I hate Losi and don't understand why there is so much love for there vehicles! I gave Losi another shot awhile ago and bought a 1/18 crawler, also my first venture into crawling. It's been sitting since Easter cause I stripped out the rear diff locker. Why they would use such a weak design on a crawler is beyond me, to top it off I can't even get the whole diff apart cause the its bitty phillips head screws that hold the diff together, two of the eight won't budge. I filled it with super glue and put it back together and it seems to be working. But after I waited for it to dry and started playing with it it became painfully clear that the steering servo was about dead! It won't even turn the wheels on carpet, just makes an awful squealing sound. Not willing to go buy another lousy Losi servo or try figuring out what will fit there I decided to make my own mounting plate and mount a 1/10 scale servo. It's not the best servo by any means, just a Spektrum z590, but it had worked in my CRT.5 with good results so I figured it'd be up to the task of this little crawler. Why can't Losi put at least an ok servo on this thing, something that will last more than 5 or 6 packs? I'm pretty sure this is my last venture with Losi!!! http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/i...1/HPIM0844.jpg

magman 04.19.2010 03:21 PM

I also have given up on Losi...had 3 bad experience with their products. Part of it is my fault though for buying crappy products...the last straw was a mini lst, enough said. i know their 1/8 stuff is good, but, other than that, it seems to be traxxas all over again

BrianG 04.19.2010 03:29 PM

Haven't had any experience with Losi until I got the Ten-T, but that's been holding up perfectly fine despite my less-than-stellar driving. Even the stock steering servo is pretty good (is digital). The only issue I've had is a premount tire coming unglued. Maybe the issues only apply to their small-scale stuff?

lincpimp 04.19.2010 03:30 PM

My experience has been that the xxx-cr and the lst are the good products. I thought the eight platform was a bit cheapo, compared to a hyper buggy. The muggy is pretty good, but the cheaped out on the chassis and the steering servos there as well. The mini lst is a joke, at least the mini t is better. I got sick of working on the mini vehicles and just moved them all on. Smallest thing I have rc right now is a tamiya m03 fwd car, and it is 10 times more fun than any of the mini vehicles, and I have yet to break it either.

I hear good things about the losi crawler, 10th scale. Maybe give it a try, but I doubt that I dump any more money in crawlers, I have enough parts to build a few more.

E-Revonut 04.19.2010 04:04 PM

Yeah, I found out when looking for parts that the diffs in the 1/18 crawler are the same as the mlst. What kills me is that I have bought complete diffs for my RC8T for less than what I can get one of these for!

Arct1k 04.19.2010 07:22 PM

They aren't cheap once you start upgrading...

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E-Revonut 04.19.2010 09:53 PM

Chris, looks like your only losi part might be the axles!

Arct1k 04.19.2010 09:56 PM

Well the outside of the axles and the trans case :)

E-Revonut 04.19.2010 10:43 PM

Is that a full size servo? Did you make the plate or is that an aftermarket piece that's available? How much weight do you run in the front. I haven't done anything to mine, it's a bone stock losi 1/18 crawler other than repair to the rear axle and the servo in my first post. It does pretty good but I know it needs some weight in the front tires and some bent lower links would make it a very capable little crawler.

simplechamp 04.20.2010 01:22 AM

I'm wary of any Losi vehicles that fall into their novelty Mini and Micro categories. Look at the Micro Rock Crawler, don't even know where to begin with that thing...

E-Revonut 04.20.2010 01:28 AM

I wouldn't really consider the mini ( 1/18 ) a novelty, at least not a real 1/18 scale such as my RC18T that takes a beating and keeps asking for more. I will agree though on the micros, they are a novelty. What are you going to crawl over with a 1/24 scale crawler? Maybe a 3 subject notebook if your lucky!

Arct1k 04.20.2010 07:28 AM

I'd start with about 3-4oz in each front wheel.

I've some alum beadlocks if interested.

E-Revonut 04.20.2010 08:17 AM

Have no $ to sink into this at the moment, just bought a SC10 2 weeks ago and in the last 2 days I bought MMpro, 13.5, Rulux sc wheels, caliber sc tires, and RPM front arms for it! Gotta cut myself off somewhere

simplechamp 04.22.2010 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 361185)
I wouldn't really consider the mini ( 1/18 ) a novelty, at least not a real 1/18 scale such as my RC18T that takes a beating and keeps asking for more. I will agree though on the micros, they are a novelty. What are you going to crawl over with a 1/24 scale crawler? Maybe a 3 subject notebook if your lucky!

You are right, 1/18th isn't necessarily a novelty, I'm just kind of biased by my own personal experience. Dropped a ton of cash on upgrades for my Mini Desert Truck and yet it didn't change the fact that it got hung up on slightly uneven dirt. I could see a 4wd mini being a better prospect, but I'm reluctant to try again after getting a taste of 1/8 scale. Smallest I will go now is 1/10 or 1/12.

bumsnogger 04.24.2010 12:20 PM

Lo$i.con.
 
Hi guys,I've finally got my ml$t2 running as a monster truck:yipi:.Its cost a fortune:whistle:.I've got a crawler(mini) and a micro raminator,.I'm actually pleased with the ml$t2 now.But as most say ,they've let us down for years,They won't try anything suggested by people who're running the trucks,The tiny screws mentioned ,you can drill the tops off and use pliers on the threads.Epoxy resin works well to relock the diff(I did it in the ml$t2,worked for 4 x 1000mah 40 c lipos,through a 5200kv brushless) I'm waiting for a mip diff ,its coming from the US ,but the backlog from the icelandic volcano is ridiculous:rofl:.I'm boycotting Losi & horizon hobby,they just take,:diablo:.

E-Revonut 04.25.2010 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 361517)
You are right, 1/18th isn't necessarily a novelty, I'm just kind of biased by my own personal experience. Dropped a ton of cash on upgrades for my Mini Desert Truck and yet it didn't change the fact that it got hung up on slightly uneven dirt. I could see a 4wd mini being a better prospect, but I'm reluctant to try again after getting a taste of 1/8 scale. Smallest I will go now is 1/10 or 1/12.

The associated RC18T is a pretty solid little truck. Can't speak for the new version with belt drive but the older one is pretty solid. Only upgrades to mine are rpm shock towers, front arms, and FT shocks all around; it has been running 5400kv motor like this for quite some time now with no drivetrain issues. It still gets hung up on bigger obstacles but handles pretty well for it's size and is stupid fast for it's size! On carpet it will pull standing back flips until I dialed up the punch control

bumsnogger 04.29.2010 09:44 AM

losi let down?
 
Hi guys,I'm stirring up a bit of a rebellion on the losi site:lol:.It looks like losi were a nice company before being swallowed up by horrorzone hobbies.I can't remember if I've posted the mlst2 saga on here.Oh well,I ordered a mlst2(2.4Ghz) from a lhs,horrorzone sent out a mlst(27 Mhz) that didn't work.So it went back to the shop(80 mile round trip!) The guy in the shop would only give a credit note????? I managed to eventually get my cash back(don't ask) So a few months later I ordered 1from a different lhs,again they sent out a mlst.Horrorzone blamed the guy in the shop,I looked on the guys computer ,due to previous experience.He deffinatley used the right code!I think they didn't have any mlst2's in stock.Why not let the lhs know? I'd have waited.Horrorzone don't want to know when somethings not fit for purpose,mlst diffs! Try emailing them asking for an improved product(metal diff gears,they could be cast! no need for "expensive machining" ) Stand up for your trucks!!! ferrets unite!!:intello:

bumsnogger 05.11.2010 07:53 AM

losi got something right!
 
Hi guys,I've been slagging losi off for a bit.Broken parts after broken parts:gasp:.But the suspension on the ml$t2's good,and I think you cna run lights off the aux port on the rx,they work if the trucks not running:mdr:.AND they replied to some1 on the losi site:gasp:.They won't reply to me:whistle:.

kulangflow 05.16.2010 03:06 AM

I guess I'm just lucky. I have all of Losi's crawlers (1/24, 1/18, and 1/10 LCC) and haven't had a problem with any of them. I bought them each the day they came out and have put a good amount of rock time on them with no problems. The micro-DT has worked well for me also. I'm not loyal to any particular brand, I just haven't had any bad experiences yet with Losi personally.

Let me know if you plan on getting rid of any of them.

I will say that I do plan on offloading my LCC when the new Axial MOA XR10 becomes available. :-)

bumsnogger 05.16.2010 10:40 AM

mlst?
 
Hi guys,My mini crawler's only bust a rear "diff".The micro T monster truck is good fun indoors.It's just the ml$t,it keeps letting me down.I fitted a roll cage,with the exotec chassis a standard servo wouldn't fit:oops:.So I had to buy a low profile 1.Horizonhobby's atittude stinks! That's where the problem stems from.

Chadworkz 05.16.2010 11:55 AM

I have always been a Kyosho, Associated, and Traxxas person, but in the last couple years I have bought quite a few Losi products, which have all performed flawlessly. I currently own and run the following Losi Vehicles;

Losi Mini Rock-Crawler (x2)
Losi Mini-T (x3)
Losi Micro-T (x2)
Losi Micro Desert truck (x1) (converted to Team BlueGroove Buggy)
And soon a Losi Ten-T

mbx1275 05.17.2010 07:03 AM

my mlst2 was a dog all alloy exotek lipo 380 brushless lipo mip spool......... spent more on that than my bl revo conversion....

micro t was cool but needs hopups from std bearings motor lipo axles

mini t pro was great just needed mip diff

bumsnogger 05.18.2010 09:51 AM

Atomic mods?
 
Hi guys,I emailed atomicmods about metal diffs.They emailed back saying the ml$t2's diffs are metal.Has the shop I got it from swapped the "metal" diffs for some crappy 1's? Mine have plastic spider gears abd a plastic "cup" that doesn't hold the spider gears in.Thinking about it ,all the ml$t diff posts state the same.I'm confused! Or are atomic botty talking?

E-Revonut 05.18.2010 12:28 PM

Stock is plastic, just like the mini crawler, all plastic

bumsnogger 05.19.2010 10:03 AM

Thanks.I'll buy a rrp 19t pinion,and drill it out.


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