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Shimmy 05.15.2010 07:49 AM

Infintie/OKHobby ESCs and motors.
 
Hey fellas,

Does anyone here know anything about these ESCs and motors from www.OKHobby.com, their Infinite line?

Their prices and specs seem pretty good to me.
Am kinda curious in the 160A ESC, 2-5s capable.


I did send them an e-mail a little while ago and this was the reply...

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKHobby
1. About the manufacturer of INFINITE motors and ESCs
All our INFINITE Motors and ESCS are producted by a very good supplier in China. He is the manufacturer of some famous motors.
The pic in our website is only for reference. We have just updated the pics of our motors.
2. All our INFINITE ESCs are programmable. And we have program box and card.
3. At present we have only one kind of sensored ESC on sale ,here is the link,
http://www.okhobby.com/product.php?id_product=1133
4. Here is our warranty items,
All INFINITE Motors are covered by a 1-Year manufacturer warranty against defects in materials and workmanship. During the warranty period INFINITE will repair our products that is found to be defective, providing that it has no signs of damage or abuse. The user will be responsible for shipping charges back to OKHOBBY.HK, and we will pay the return shipping charges.
5. We have car motors and ESC in stock already.
6. Our INFINITE Motors are new product and just release and there is no review right now. But our INFINITE airplane and helicopter motors have product review,
Here is the link in RCG, http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...hlight=okhobby
All INFINITE Motors and ESCs are producted by the same manufacturer.And the quality are the same.

Cheers.

suicideneil 05.15.2010 02:53 PM

Hmm, never heard of them before- I bet Lutach could shedd some light though ( they seem to be a bit cagey about who their supplier is for the motors and escs ).

The big 2 pole motor looks interesting for $40: clicky.

And the 5496 motor for $90 is a monster... :gasp:

sikeston34m 05.15.2010 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 364591)
Hmm, never heard of them before- I bet Lutach could shedd some light though ( they seem to be a bit cagey about who their supplier is for the motors and escs ).

The big 2 pole motor looks interesting for $40: clicky.

And the 5496 motor for $90 is a monster... :gasp:

Their outrunner motors ARE patterned after Scorpion Outrunners. I would put my money on THAT supplier.

Compare them to these motors and you'll see.

www.innov8tivedesigns.com

Where are they located? China? I wonder what the shipping costs are like?

I noticed the large motors also. It's a bit sad they are 2 pole.

lutach 05.15.2010 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 364591)
Hmm, never heard of them before- I bet Lutach could shedd some light though ( they seem to be a bit cagey about who their supplier is for the motors and escs ).

The big 2 pole motor looks interesting for $40: clicky.

And the 5496 motor for $90 is a monster... :gasp:

They look very familiar, but those pictures were taken from the Orion ESCs. I haven't gone to the Novatech website and they look like their system. The 5th scale ESC might be shady though as there are only a hand full of companies that are making 10S esc for cars. You know someone will get those and test them out and I'll be waiting for their results. The 10th scale stuff looks like the Weigo units.

simplechamp 05.16.2010 12:39 AM

I just ordered the INFINITE C4363-1860 motor to try out in my buggy. I was surprised to see that the 43mm motors are 4-pole, so figured I'd take a chance. It's basically the same dimensions and kv as my current Neu 1512. Shipping wasn't too expensive (~$7 for air mail, ~$16 for EMS) and they let you declare a value and how the package will be labeled (gift, hobby parts, etc.)

Overdriven 05.16.2010 04:23 PM

The 1/8th conversion kits on that site look alot like the ones Kershaw has on his site. And that 1/5 scale motor he's getting (talked about in another thread) has the same 54/96mm dimensions as one on this site, for $60 cheaper too.

suicideneil 05.16.2010 09:35 PM

RC-Monster Detective Agency, how may we assist you today...

scarletboa 05.17.2010 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 364668)
I just ordered the INFINITE C4363-1860 motor to try out in my buggy. I was surprised to see that the 43mm motors are 4-pole, so figured I'd take a chance. It's basically the same dimensions and kv as my current Neu 1512. Shipping wasn't too expensive (~$7 for air mail, ~$16 for EMS) and they let you declare a value and how the package will be labeled (gift, hobby parts, etc.)


please post pics when u get the motor and let us all know how it runs. i'm currently looking for another motor for my cen matrix.

Jason 06.02.2010 04:45 PM

I received mine today for my stampede

this one :

http://www.okhobby.com/product.php?id_product=1147

im geared for about 34.91 mph and with the tires ballooning factor maybe around 40mph on 2s lipo and after a 4000mah pack about 15 to 20min of mix runtime ( grass , dirt , tarmac ) the motor temp was about 160f I run proline mashers 2k 4.75" of diameters and my stampede diff has the lsd washer mod.. I find the temps a bit high and the outside temp was only 48f..

possible the motor are too high kv for the stampede ?

do the diff washer mod can affect motor temps ?

simplechamp 06.02.2010 04:49 PM

Here are some pics of the INFINITE motor I received today. 43mm diameter and 63mm long, 1860kv. Most of the INFINITE line seem to be 2 pole, but the 43mm series are 4 pole, and that is why I wanted to try this. The size and kv are almost identical to the Neu 1512 I have in my buggy right now.

First impressions seem pretty good. Construction feels solid, not much play in the rotor. The both endbells are secured with screws. I tried to open it up to inspect the rotor, but with the screws removed the endbells still wouldn't budge. I would guess they are either epoxied on, threaded on, or just a really tight fit, I didn't spend much time trying, so maybe I will try more to open it later.

The front endbell allows the use of 3mm or 4mm mounting screws. The wires exiting the rear endbell are extensions of the windings, just like a Neu. You can see they are much longer than Neu leads, so I will probably shorten them. IMO it would have been a better idea to use silicone wire like a Castle motor if they wanted to make the leads that long.

The rotor has the distinct "notchy" feel when turned by hand. I would say the magnet strength feels equivalent to a Neu 1512, maybe a little less, but I will have to try turning both by hand together to get a better comparison.

Hoping to be able to run this in the next few days. Shortening the leads might be a chore, if you know a good way to remove the enamel coating from the winding leads post here or send me a PM. I'll update more once I get a chance to run the motor.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...3/P1020895.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...3/P1020896.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...3/P1020897.jpg

BrianG 06.02.2010 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 368007)
...You can see they are much longer than Neu leads, so I will probably shorten them....

Be careful doing that. If they truly are extensions of the coil wires, they will have an insulating varnish coating that will be almost impossible to solder. You will need to clean each strand and/or use some type of solvent to remove the varnish.

simplechamp 06.02.2010 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 368008)
Be careful doing that. If they truly are extensions of the coil wires, they will have an insulating varnish coating that will be almost impossible to solder. You will need to clean each strand and/or use some type of solvent to remove the varnish.

Right, that's why I was requesting some help or more info on how to do so:

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 368007)
Shortening the leads might be a chore, if you know a good way to remove the enamel coating from the winding leads post here or send me a PM.


sikeston34m 06.02.2010 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 368040)
Right, that's why I was requesting some help or more info on how to do so:

Why not run it like it is? Just secure the wires well with ties to minimize vibration. They should last a long time that way.

Then if there's trouble, (breakage) perfect your wire shortening skills.

Those pictures don't look like the advertised pictures. hmmm..........looks good though.

How much was shipping on that bad boy?

simplechamp 06.02.2010 09:16 PM

I might leave them long, have to look and see where I would have to remount the MMP to make the wiring work, probably on a shelf behind the center diff.

I kind of figured the pics they used were just generic place-holder pics, since every single motor used the same one.

I used standard shipping, which was around $7 and I think EMS Express was around $16. With the standard shipping it was ~$54 shipped to my door.

Nixpus 06.07.2010 04:26 AM

Any update on the 4-pole motors?

Im curious (as you've already seen and commented on) if they could power a Savage X/XL conversion without loads of heavy after market parts and 40 serie wheels. The 4-polers (4363) almost have the same dimensions as the old Hobbywing 4465 motor... and that guy have no problem powering a Savage conversion.

scarletboa 06.07.2010 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixpus (Post 368685)
Any update on the 4-pole motors?

Im curious (as you've already seen and commented on) if they could power a Savage X/XL conversion without loads of heavy after market parts and 40 serie wheels. The 4-polers (4363) almost have the same dimensions as the old Hobbywing 4465 motor... and that guy have no problem powering a Savage conversion.

i don't think the motor would have enough size. the hobbywing motor has a smooth can and the infinity motor only has a 40mm can with 3mm fins, which means a smaller rotor. it might work if you gear for less than 40mph, but i would just get a cc2200kv motor. mine runs very cool in my extended savage flux.

Nixpus 06.07.2010 05:41 PM

Forgot about the fins... still lets have some info from a test drive soon ;)

Bondonutz 06.07.2010 05:56 PM

Jason, leave the wires alone. It's not worth the hassle to shorten them, serious PITA to clean the wires. No solvent touches that varnish shiz, needs to be burned then scraped clean.

jhautz 06.07.2010 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 368007)
Here are some pics of the INFINITE motor I received today. 43mm diameter and 63mm long, 1860kv. Most of the INFINITE line seem to be 2 pole, but the 43mm series are 4 pole, and that is why I wanted to try this. The size and kv are almost identical to the Neu 1512 I have in my buggy right now.

First impressions seem pretty good. Construction feels solid, not much play in the rotor. The both endbells are secured with screws. I tried to open it up to inspect the rotor, but with the screws removed the endbells still wouldn't budge. I would guess they are either epoxied on, threaded on, or just a really tight fit, I didn't spend much time trying, so maybe I will try more to open it later.

The front endbell allows the use of 3mm or 4mm mounting screws. The wires exiting the rear endbell are extensions of the windings, just like a Neu. You can see they are much longer than Neu leads, so I will probably shorten them. IMO it would have been a better idea to use silicone wire like a Castle motor if they wanted to make the leads that long.

The rotor has the distinct "notchy" feel when turned by hand. I would say the magnet strength feels equivalent to a Neu 1512, maybe a little less, but I will have to try turning both by hand together to get a better comparison.

Hoping to be able to run this in the next few days. Shortening the leads might be a chore, if you know a good way to remove the enamel coating from the winding leads post here or send me a PM. I'll update more once I get a chance to run the motor.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...3/P1020895.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...3/P1020896.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...3/P1020897.jpg


Looks exactly like the Orion motor that comes in the Kyosho Inferno VE. Even the wires are the same. :yes:
Just no logos....

simplechamp 06.07.2010 07:49 PM

I got the motor installed in my buggy tonight, so weather-permitting I'll get to drive it tomorrow and get some feedback on how it performs.

ZippyBasher 06.07.2010 11:43 PM

Please do, I am interested for my Brother in-law. He is on a budget and I want him to get his Ofna comp. up and going.

Chadworkz 06.08.2010 02:45 AM

Haha, speaking of old Ofna buggies...

A friend of mine is trading me his all stock, all original, 1st Generation Ofna Ultra GT LX 1/8 Buggy for a TQ3 Tx & Rx of mine, and I can't decide what I want to do with it once I get it. It is basically still brand-new, having only been broken in (and I did that for him, on grass, so no scratches on the chassis) and then put on a shelf in his closet. He just got into nitro on-road right after buying it and never touched it again.

I don't know if I should put it up and keep it as an original, untouched buggy, or just go nuts with it and install a brushless system that is just way, way overkill...just for the fun of it!

Edit: I think it is an Ultra GT LX, not an Ultra LX...it's like Ofna's very first 1/8 nitro buggy, or damn close to the first!

simplechamp 06.08.2010 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZippyBasher (Post 368860)
Please do, I am interested for my Brother in-law. He is on a budget and I want him to get his Ofna comp. up and going.

Unfortunately it looks like we're going to get rain today, it's not raining right now, but by the time I could run later this evening it probably will be. Anyway, I'll still get some feedback for you ASAP.

scarletboa 06.21.2010 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 368919)
Unfortunately it looks like we're going to get rain today, it's not raining right now, but by the time I could run later this evening it probably will be. Anyway, I'll still get some feedback for you ASAP.

did you ever get a chance to run the motor? i am really thinking about getting one for my CEN matrix. i'm also looking at the 160a esc they have. has anyone gotten a chance to use one of their escs?

Bondonutz 06.21.2010 03:36 PM

I found it funny that on the same page as the 100+amp speed-o's that they had 3.5mm bullets and nothing bigger. WF?
Buying some chinese stuff it worth saving a few bucks on but when it comes to 100+amp Speed-o's, spend more $$ for something that'll last and have customer service at least.

simplechamp 06.21.2010 07:29 PM

I have been really slacking, still haven't run my buggy with the OK Hobby motor. I promise I will have a report in the next few days. Just super busy with a new job and most of my RC time has been going towards working on my CRT .5

Nixpus 06.22.2010 04:53 AM

Be happy that someone is supporting the lower cost/quality brands... that way CC, Neu, whatever have to stay sharp ;)

Looking forward to your report Champ!

Also looking for a cheap "ok quality" 4 pole motor which can power a Savage XL without running hot... I fear I'll have to look for quite some time.

killajb 06.22.2010 10:39 AM

http://lightflightrc.com/ Arc 36-75-1 gets my vote. I have one in my Muggy and have thrashed it pretty good in the last week. I think it would power your Savage XL just nicely.

scarletboa 06.22.2010 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killajb (Post 370831)
http://lightflightrc.com/ Arc 36-75-1 gets my vote. I have one in my Muggy and have thrashed it pretty good in the last week. I think it would power your Savage XL just nicely.

you can get a castle 2200 motor on e-bay for that same price. my castle 2200 motor rarely breaks 120f in my extended savage flux.

edit: rc-monster also has the castle 2200 motor for $140. that is the cheapest non-e-bay price you will find.

Nixpus 06.23.2010 04:30 AM

Some day I'll start listening... I know youve already been down the road Im on Scarlet :yes:

For now I'll drive th KB45 and the Ezrun 4465... if some cheap 4 pole experiment comes along I'll try it. Otherwise I'll cave in and get the standard motor at some point.

scarletboa 06.23.2010 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixpus (Post 370964)
Some day I'll start listening... I know youve already been down the road Im on Scarlet :yes:

For now I'll drive th KB45 and the Ezrun 4465... if some cheap 4 pole experiment comes along I'll try it. Otherwise I'll cave in and get the standard motor at some point.

as long as your KB and ezrun motors keep working good for you, just use them. if they both fail, then you should cave in and get the castle motor. trust me, i've had my fair share of frustration with cheap motors and even some nice ones. the castle 2200 motors that i have (one in my lx-1e and the other in my savage flux xl) have given me no trouble and they run cool all day. where i live, summers mean 110-115f temps during the day and even with those crazy ambient temps, the motors don't get too hot.:yipi:

Chadworkz 06.25.2010 12:06 PM

I run both; MMM/CC-Neu 2200kV in my BL Revo 3.3 and an eZRun 80A/KD36-74-1900kV, both on 159A-200A Zippy & Turnigy LiPo power and have had zero problems out of any of them. I live in Alabama, where the humidity is 100% all the time, and right now the ambient temps are 90º to 102º...everything works great, except when I overheat and have to come inside in the air-conditioning!

proVzone 07.08.2010 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondonutz (Post 370705)
I found it funny that on the same page as the 100+amp speed-o's that they had 3.5mm bullets and nothing bigger. WF?
Buying some chinese stuff it worth saving a few bucks on but when it comes to 100+amp Speed-o's, spend more $$ for something that'll last and have customer service at least.

OK Hobby has online support and excellent customer service ...I got my stuff within 6-7 days to Australia and the girls helped out every step of the way ...dont go guessing and generalising ...these guys are really good !!!

stampy 07.08.2010 07:14 PM

has any one heard any thing about the 1/8th scale esc's?! That price looks nice especially being unemployed.

simplechamp 07.08.2010 07:59 PM

They look a lot like the Orion 1/8th ESCs (just like the Infinite motors are very similar to the Orion motors) but not sure how they perform. Looks like they are all still on pre-order.

I have a coupon code for 10% off any Infinite products at OK Hobby, good until the end of August, send a PM if interested.

nuz69 07.09.2010 04:17 AM

The OK hobby combo 2050KV and ESC 120A 2-4S are exactly the same as the ORION combo 2050KV and vortex8 ESC, which cost 3 times more ...
I have seen 3 Vortex8 in fire within 2 months, and I broke my orion 2050Kv 2 poles motor due to the hardwires and the widings, so attach them correctly !
At this time I didn't know nothing about 4 poles and NEU-Castle motors ^^ when I tried them it was just night and day :lol::lol:
Shame on ORION to send this crappy combo (no power, limited to 4S, no reliable) more expansive than a Castle combo, and without customer support !!! "sorry we can't do anything, if you want we can sell you another combo for 250$ instead 320$." "No thanks, keep your ass oil" ...
I hope your 4 poles will work correctly !

stampy 07.09.2010 04:35 AM

do you guys think the 160a is worth a shot?

tashpop 07.09.2010 07:14 AM

i really like the specs on that pre order 120amp 1/5th scale esc. mostly the 5s-10s!!! waiting on some opinions on these products. i can't afford to be a guinne.

simplechamp 07.12.2010 06:44 PM

Well I broke down and ordered my first non-Castle ESC. I was going to get another MMP, but decided to try the Infinite 100A 1/10th sensored version, to put in my CRT .5

Hopefully it can hold up to the Novak HV 7.5 motor, but the current draw shouldn't be too bad when geared conservatively on 3S.

P.S. It now looks like the 160A 1/8th and 120A 1/5th ESCs are in stock.

Nixpus 07.14.2010 06:56 AM

Sold my EZrun 150a ESC and wanted to buy a Xerun due to the much smaller footprint... but the damn thing was out of stock all over.

Ended up ordering one of the Infinite 160a ESC's... it will be transfered to a crawling Savage setup once I get a 6s ESC again.

I also ordered one of the 4 pole motors now that I was at it... will leave some feedback once I get it installed and tested :yes:


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