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Bmr4life 09.24.2010 11:05 AM

Hmmm. Mounting a 1518, 1520, or 1717 in a Savage?
 
Anyone know if the FLM motor mount will fit on the stock savage flux motor plate?

I'd rather buy this than have to grind out the stock motor clamps.

http://www.fastlanemachine.net/prodi...misc%20001.JPG

If it won't work, anyone know a mount that will?

BTW, I'm running a DB17 if that makes any difference.

Arct1k 09.24.2010 11:16 AM

Jamie is doing a mount for a 1717 at the moment ;)

Finnster 09.24.2010 11:21 AM

I think that was originally off his savage bl conversion kit. IDK about the bolt pattern tho.

If no one knows, you can try to call him, perhaps he can even make a plate, and failing that, a simple plate can be made from alu yourself w/o any complicated tools. Even a modified stock motor plate should work.

Finnster 09.24.2010 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 381381)
Jamie is doing a mount for a 1717 at the moment ;)

Someone should gently suggest Jamie add more specs and dimensions to his product desc when he gets a chance. I think it would really enhance his offerings and increase sales. He makes a number of very well made and unique parts, but it can be hard to figure out if they can be used in a custom app not originally concieved by the maker.

EG Skid Plates Its listed as extended, and there is a std plate. They are intended for some of his tvps, but they will work on other tvps, but one doesn't know the length to figure out which one, if any, would fit.

Such threads are not infrequent, and prolly could be avoided somewhat if more information was more readily availible.

Soro 09.24.2010 11:57 AM

Arct1k

I think the 1717 has a different size than the 1520

or are the mounting holes on the same place ?

Arct1k 09.24.2010 12:20 PM

IIRC 1717 has 25mm spacing but 4mm holes and is obviously fatter so needs a different mount...

Jamie has my 1717 for test fitting in the FLM Baja Savage chassis

Bmr4life 09.24.2010 01:08 PM

Alright. I just ordered a 1717 in hopes of being able to buy or make a mount.

Bmr4life 09.24.2010 04:07 PM

Alright. I found a nice hunk of steel at my job and it will make the perfect mount. Its bent intoa rectangular tube shape and I will cut an offset L out of it. Its 1/4" thick so I can thread the bottom to hold the mesh adjustment screws.

Once that's done, I'll have to cut out part of the TVP to fit the extra long motor.

Now I just need to figure out how to gear it for 6s power.

toplakd 12.16.2010 05:37 PM

I made for myself that kind of mount for 1520 motor, for 1717 it will be just a little thinner at the bottom.

http://s6.mojalbum.com/forumi-foto_2...4_18364514.jpg

Dejan

Bmr4life 12.16.2010 06:44 PM

oh, didn't realize I never updated my own thread with my motor mount. Its made of out 1/4" SS.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...x/IMG_5413.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...x/IMG_5414.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...x/IMG_5415.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...x/IMG_5416.jpg

lincpimp 12.16.2010 10:09 PM

Interesting, 4 wheel steering or is the motor in the front?

Bmr4life 12.16.2010 10:11 PM

motor in front.

lincpimp 12.16.2010 10:16 PM

Ok, how does it handle with the batteries in the back? Does it fly level under power?

Bmr4life 12.16.2010 10:24 PM

Its definitely more level with the batteries in the back. Before the 1717, I had the batteries up front in the boxes. This helped out with wheelies a lot, but was very front end heavy.

matfew 12.31.2010 07:31 AM

Hey guys.

New to this site. Got pointed in this direction as my current project consists of a Savage X SS being converted to brushless running a 1717 motor.

Some great pics here. Have run into a few things from research here. Like nitro tVP wont allow motor to fit. But I have an idea for that.

few questions I have. Do the flux run the motor in the front standard. Didnt think they did???
If not how did you do it? Was it simple to just turn trannsmission around or??

What gearing did you find to work well. Few people I have spoken to say they cant get the right gearing to load this motor up enough.

Any other tips you can give would be great.

Cheers

Overdriven 12.31.2010 11:26 PM

The Flux has the motor in the back just like a nitro. It has its own specific TVP's I believe that allow the motor to fit. The savage in the pictures above is running GCM db17 TVP's which convert the truck into a 1/5 scale basically. The GCM also runs the motor in the rear. It looks like Bmr4life mounted the front end to the rear of the chassis, he did not rotate the transmission 180 degrees.

_dV 01.01.2011 08:02 AM

GCM DesertBoy chassis mounts the motor up front.

matfew 01.01.2011 08:26 AM

that makes a lot more sense. I was wondering how he got the front mount motor lol.

I am trying to make it fit the stock savage x tvp at this stage. I have it mocked up out of cardboard and seems like it will work but have to cut the tvp up a bit and add a bit on.


Anyone running the 1717 what batteries are you running and what sort of run time are you getting from it?

I have heard it is a bit of a pig for power but just wondering what mah batts and run time you are getting. Oh and what cell count. 6s, 5s, 4s etc.


Thanks

lincpimp 01.01.2011 02:04 PM

BTW, GCM sell a modded stock flux motor mount that will fit the 42mm diameter castle motors. I am guessing he just bores out the stock mounts, which are 39mm, to 42mm. Straight drop in for the flux, as long as the motor will fit lengthwise.

FYI and smooth can 15 series neu motor will fit the stock flux clamps. And any other 39mm diameter motor too.

Overdriven 01.01.2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _dV (Post 392279)
GCM DesertBoy chassis mounts the motor up front.

Oops, my bad. Idk why but I always get confused with the Savage stuff, too many variations. I'll just shut up and listen now! Lol

toplakd 01.01.2011 04:21 PM

ALZA-Racing has also some custom motormounts for Savage FLUX


Dejan

Knez 01.03.2011 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toplakd (Post 392306)
ALZA-Racing has also some custom motormounts for Savage FLUX


Dejan

Haha, yes...i am waiting for one ;)

JasonB 01.19.2011 08:19 PM

4 Attachment(s)
The 1520 will fit into the stock flux with a little bit of effort.

Step 1: The castle motors are 2mm bigger in diameter due to the fins, so you will need to sand down inside of motor mounts. I didn't take pictures of this step, but there is another post somewhere with pictures of this step. First thing to do here is slide the mount onto the end of the 1520 motor and scribe a very thin line around where the fins touch the mount with a hobby knife. This will show you exactly how much material must be removed. Then chuck up a ~1" sanding drum in your drill/ drill press and make several full passes around the inside of the mount, gradually removing material until you approach the scribe line. When you start to touch the line, do a test fit and then very gradually sand off more until you get a perfect snug fit. If you want to skip this step, GCM has done the work for you and sells a set of mounts that have already been milled to the correct size.


Step 2: Install the motor without the pinion and leave all the hardware a little loose so that you can slide the motor front to back in the mounts and side to side in the slots. Slide the motor all the way forward until the motor shaft is just touching the transmission box, then back it off ½ mm so it will not rub. Then lock the motor down in the mounts, but leave the mounts loose in the slots.


Step 3: Use the sanding drum to take off about 2mm of material from the part of the TVP that is preventing the motor from sliding all the way to the end of the stops. Just take off a little bit at a time until you have full adjustment. Shown below is a picture of a stock TVP next to the one I sanded down.

Attachment 9643

Step 4: Notch the battery box mount. Just need to take off about 1mm or so.


Step 5: Mount the pinion on the motor backwards, line it up with the spur and lock it down. With this mod, there will be no front to back motor adjustment, but if the pinion is aligned correctly and loctited down, this adjustment is never needed.


Step 6: Put it back together and enjoy your bigger badder motor! I love the 1520, it runs cool, gives a little more run time, and has more torque. I have run it hard in the sand for 15 min straight and could still hold my thumb on the motor. Never temped it over 130 deg.

Attachment 9642Attachment 9644Attachment 9645

FG101C 02.01.2011 07:57 PM

Does anyone know if the FLM tranny foward motor mount will work with a 1717? Maybe takes a little grinding?

Thanks.


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