I just threw up in my mouth a little.....
 

I found this while looking on ebay, and thought i would share it with you :lol:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Rev-A...b5ea2d7e#v4-36

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

If you look at all the pics it gets even better.....like the high quality craftsmanship of the rear 1/4 panels. Or the pic of the back of the car, or the front, or.....well just the entire thing is pretty bad! Odds are the current and only bidder will be taking this baby home for a low low price of 3875!

$10 says he hot-glued the "meticulously designed" body kit to the existing car body. :lol: Or, possibly, double-sided tape. :rofl:

The left-rear wheel arch isn't even round... :surprised:

God bless you, abundantly...

I actually think he improved garbage motors favorite trailer park ferrari, the craparo. I can imagine thanks to his work it will squeak less, have much reduced cowl shake, and pull some tang like a hunchback at a hawaiian tropic contest...

Seeing as this car was originally red, and that he used silver spray paint to paint it, the new finish should easily outlast the factory gm crapola paint. I have seen soooo many of these "beauties" in inferno red peeling it is not even funny anymore. Plus you have about 7 different materials the exterior body panels are made of, so the paint ages differently on all of them, making the car look even worse (is that possible?)

Sorry if I offend any GM fanboys, but honestly, these camaros were piles of crap, and only bearable with the ls1 motor. LT1 with the distributor cap under the water pump, now that is marketing genius at its best. "Lets hide the high wear pelectrical arts behind something that WILL leak coolant... That way we can sell 2 parts when one craps out." Only bested by the "tuned port" turd motor from the 86 vette, which could be handily outrun by a dodge pickup with a 318. When a small block dodge pickup outrunns you it is time to part your gov't motors ride...

Plus these things are ugly stock, looks like a door stop with extra plastic parts. Makes the 80-90s gen whatever squeaky box 'maro look good. Or the potent 305 fireturd trashcan, that car was a looker compared to the later f body. Now that I have fully offended all of the nightrider fans (don't hassel the hoff) I will step down from my soapbox and await the always orignal "ford sucks, and "found on road dead" comments...

Oh yeah, if this car was in the street by my house I would do the right thing and light it on fire.

Hey Linc, I love my 3800 Series II. That's one thing GM did right! :smile:

Love the GM flame! I've owned Chevy, Dodge, and Ford...I'll stick with my Fords.

The 90 deg v6 they conjoured up back in the day by lopping off the last pair of cylinders of a 350?

I do not have much experience with v6 motors, seemed like a waste of time to me. But if you are having good success then good for you! Just a bailout away from true nirvana!!!

Not saying that fords are perfect, and I am not a mustake fan by any means. I have owned and worked on alot of stuff and ford just gets it right more than the others. Eyeball the paint on the bottom of a chevy truck and then look at a ford truck. You will see why the fords last longer. Ford just make a better truck. But gm have the vette, so we are even... wait a minute, no.

Nope, that's the Series I. That one sucked. They ran rough when they were brand new... :lol:

The Series II has a purpose-built 60 deg. engine block. Much smoother. Even my NA engine has great torque. My friends look at me funny when I tell them my Granny car ('95 Bonneville) has bigger cylinders than a 5.0 Mustang (albeit only 6 of them...). :smile:

I am a GM guy and I will say that GM cars are mostly crap....the interior being by far the worst. But the LS based engines truly are amazing. And they are still pushrod engines to boot!

I do a better job of cutting out my RC car bodies...:yes::rofl::lol:

Hell yeah, I'm going to win that bid. I'll name it 2Wicked II, go to pep boys and get a few sweet option parts to finish it off.
:no:

Worst body work ever (in Simpson's comic book guy voice)

and I second linc's posts.

While GM has improved (really, where else did they have to go but up, and of course on my dime via the government) I am still disappointed at best by their offerings. I just had a brand new Malibu as a rental and what a turd it was. The pick up power was non existent, the interior while better still looked like it was assembled in preschool by my four year old, the turning radius was worse than my 03 4runner, the handling basically a joke, and even at idle the engine sounded like it was straining to stay alive. The styling is still boring and the paint was as linc previously stated. Of yeah, and it had less than 3k miles on it too.

So put it up against the other American offering of it's class the Ford Fusion and it really looks like a joke. Ford has figured it out, unfortunately Chrysler and GM have not.

Gotcha, 60deg is required to get a v6 to run smoothly. Or if you happen to be volkswagen then you make it very narrow angle and place it in a crap car and people will flock to it cause they think hitler had something to do with it so it must be good...

just remember that Mitsubishi's NA 3.0L v6 only made 30 more hp with .8 less litters and weighed 50 less pounds back when gm thought that the 3800 was the shit:lol:

I had to stare at josh's avatar for a few seconds to get THAT (whatever THAT is) out of my mind LOL

The 4.3L V6 was the chopped down 350 and was in the S10 pickups iirc. Maybe the 3.8L was from a 305?

I see what you did there. Looking forward to the 2WII build thread ;)


That thing is truely an abomination. Worst sheetmetal work i've ever seen. What craphole town must you live in to get looks of admoration driving around in that thing?

Was just over int he UK and had a brand new Ford Kuga as a rental. Awesome car, and the turbo diesel/6spd it had in it was really ncie to drive, plus it got great gas milage. Too bad they aren't avail inthe states.

Saw a ton of Fords in the UK, and they all looked like quality vehicles. I know the Mondeo has a good rep. Nice to see an American car and American engineering you can be proud of. Ford's profits has been rewarded nicely too.

:lol: Please don't hold back tell us what you really think!

I dare the Chevy fan boys to say anything, cause what American Auto maker didn't need any help from the tax payer?

Hmmm lets see, oh yeah it was Ford! They were selling cars and trucks.

Maybe the high bidder on this is Obama's car czar who wants to add it to a Chevy museum and show what was possible with a Chevy product. Why all you need is just a little imagination, a hot glue gun and sheet metal for duct work from Home Depot.

Just for that reason, I'm looking at a 2010 Ford F-150...

In all fairness, Ford didn't need money as they were in a worse position a few years earlier, brought back Bill Ford, and he helped restructure all their debt back when there was a functioning credit market. Had they not been fortunate in their timing, they would have likely needed gov't assisted funding at that time too.


More importantly IMO, was Ford recognized there was a problem on their own and actually tried to fix it and start making quality and fashionable cars with a more streamlined business plan. GM's bloated bureaucracy just blundered on making midgrade trucks and chitty cars they could only sell under employee pricing schemes at marginal profit hoping the days of $.99 gas and big SUVs would somehow comeback. I dont hate GM, they were a great American company at one time, but I don't see myself buying one any time soon because they still suck.

IDK WTF Chrysler is doing. Flaming piles of crap if there ever was one. The gov't has made worse investments imo, but hard to think of one right now...

The Mitsubishi is aluminum right? Those Asian cars tend to have a higher compression ratio, too. I'll be that's where the 30hp comes from. The GM 3800 is a cast-iron block, and runs (I think) an 8.5:1 compression ratio. I get 25MPG on the highway. Not too shabby... :smile:

HA, I have always had issues with GM products, the designs just seem to be anti-linc.... Plus they just do not seem to last as well as ford products do, at least in my experience.

Ford trucks seem to sell well and I have driven all of the available stuff. The ford always seems tighter built or rides better.

I have seen some issues with the superduty trucks and the deisel engines. The old 7.3 was a great motor and I know of some that have 300k miles and have never had any sort of service. The 6.0 and some of the 6.4 motors have issues, and that sucks. So not everything ford is great, but all of it is better than GM's best attempts. See "corvette interior" for an example of the greatest achievements.

Not sure how the latest gen of f-150s are, but my 02 model has 190k miles and still runs great. Still stock suspension and just changed the shocks. No issues with the truck.

I like how his solution to fixing the cracked dash is to just cover it up with a dash cover, and his solution to fixing the torn seats... you guessed it, cover it up with seat covers.

Anything can easily be fixed by covering it with something else.

What a Shiz box, homey was tripping on purple micro-dots when he got the idea to do that ?

Sounds like Indian food...

You are 100% right and I am sure this guy thinks his gangsta azz custom ride is the nizzle fo-shizzle. I am sure he has no idea what a huge pile o-rcrap it is. Some people just do not have the standards most of us here have, take Harold for example, he just loves dudes.

Still have the Lightning? :yipi:

I just got rid of an '04 F-150, great truck! Drove it for three years with very minimal service. Only traded it in because I needed a little better gas mileage and wanted something different, I went with an '07 Explorer Sport Trac. I traded in an '02 Ram for the F-150, the Ram looked great but that was all it had. Had to get a new motor installed at 58K, dealer blamed it on the bosch spark plugs, whatever, I learned my lesson and will stick with Ford

Nah, sold it a few months back. A buddy made me an offer I could not refuse.

Finn,
You are right that Ford was in a bad spot, but I don't think it was to the extent that GM was and is in. And for me, this is just my opinion, Ford did what they needed to do. They sold off interests in Rover, Jaguar, and Volvo, as well as narrowing their focus to make cars over the years. They made tough decisions, I hated to see them close the F-150 plant in Norfolk VA back in 2007, but they had to do so to be responsible for the long term viability of the company. It doesn't seem like GM is, for instance they still have GMAC, both the credit and mortgage divisions, why not sell them?

Your are right on the timing, credit market then as you pointed out did help. You are on the money that they brought on Bill Ford and revamped their line up.

So I guess for me, considering Ford had their biggest loss ever in 2006 and still pulled it out without taxpayer money is why I get a case of the a$$ over GM being under the government. If Ford did it and made the hard decisions, why isn't the same expected of GM? (<----This is a rhetorical question....everyone has their opinions, not trying to start a political debate)

@76: IDK man, the whole things a bit of a mess. The best I understand it was GM left its problems way too long to fix, its debts were too large for any private entity to really be able to assume, and there were big structural impediments, as well as state franchise laws that prevents it from moving swiftly or cheaply, not to mention all the labor contracts and unfunded pension obligations it had.

From what I understand, GM tried to sell its remaining minority stake in GMAC at one point recently, and it failed. Gotta wonder what bad morgage and other debts it holds. GM has had trouble even selling many of its former brands, Saturn, Hummer, Saab. GM has been selling bits of itself off for years in its continous decline and floundering.

Chrysler was way smaller than GM, and its ownership bounced from entity to entity that couldn't fix it. Who would want GM then? IF no one, was liquidation and resigning to oblivion the largest US auto manufacturer a good idea in an imploding economy? To me, seemed like all the other options were even worse.
Maybe this was the only way to save the behemoth from thier decades of bad decisions. Maybe no CEO could ever do it alone. IDK.

I guess my view of it is that, despite all the ugliness or things that could have been different, GM was worth saving and may end up a net boon in the end. At least they still actually manufacture something real in America (as opposed to banks which just manufacture debt) and employ a lot of people. They got their second chance at life, and I want to see them learn their lessons, rise from the ashes, and succeed to be a global leader in American manufacturing and engineering once again and not become a landmark in a history of American decline and failure.
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As far as the OP goes: I can't see the Mr Fusion mounted the back. Too bad, as we could have gone back to 1995 and destroyed that POS before it was ever created

I e-mailed this guy via e-bay. He sad it's so cheap because he bought it down in Louisiana, it was a katrina salvage car,

He bought it in slidell, from some shady body shop. He described the owner as a pudgy greasy fellow named James. I guess he was very touchy feely.

He said James went on and on about how this was some of his best work and and he was sure to impress a few sows at the local feedlot.

:rofl:

:lol:

I heard the preachers say God sent Katrina bc of the homos and casinos. I'm thinking he saw the car, and it did not please him.

Finn,
Good discussion man, I don't get to talk this stuff that much any more. I was naming the sale of the GMAC finance division based on this Business Week article, they said 10 to 15 billion dollars in value. (<--but this was from 2005, things have changed)

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...2001_mz001.htm

I wonder if it is still worth near that and if it is, are buyers leery of the valuation or concerned about the government involvement in the deal?

You hit the nail on the head about the unfunded liabilities. I am kinda cut throat about it, I would rather them have declared bankruptcy where they could restructure the debt and then negotiate new contracts with some kind of 401K type component to younger employees and discontinue the defined pension, be viable again and meet the obligations to those who have retired as they planned their retirement based on the promises made. I don't want to see anyone get screwed.

I have been told by people with family members who work for Toyota here in the states that they have great benefits on par with those that are enjoyed by UAW members, the only difference being the retirement benefits ....Medicare for health insurance, 65 is retirement age, and 401K with generous match. I see no reason this can't be the model for GM and other auto makers.

They also need to discontinue some of the insane practices that I am sure go on at other auto makers that hamper productivity. On that note, I have a friend who is an engineer for GM, she currently works on the Corvette line. She has gotten so frustrated with the state of things she is ready to leave engineering all together. She was explaining to me that if she wants to adjust a prototype piece, do the programing and make a test sample, that she has to have a union employee to run the line for her....though she is the engineer. She says she can wait several hours some times to get one of the "approved" people to fire up the production line for her one piece. This type of thing can not continue, especially when other countries...China cough cough cough....have absolutely no boundaries....no environmental concerns (Which is trouble some to say the least), depress workers wages, child labor and currency manipulation. All of which is horrible, no one please mistake what I am saying. The wages of the American worker to me is not the bulk of the problem with American manufacturing.

In the end, though I am not a fan of their products, I too would like to see GM come back and be the power house it can be and should be. Bottom line, Americans can and do make the best products in the world. We need more of it!

My last comment is about Chrysler, I though they were sold by Daimler Benz several years ago to a private consortium, so I am really baffled as to why they got a bail out and were saved. Seems to me it was just a crap investment.

http://money.cnn.com/2007/05/14/news...sale/index.htm

:lol:

Most excellent!

Yes, and I heard that this "james" guy was commisioned to build the car by a spastic dumbass from minnesota. The guy sent him the car and materials and paid him 20 bucks to finish it. He got what he paid for but could not pickup the car due to an unexpected outbreak of herpes. And medicare would not cover valtrex. So the James guy had to sell it on to cover his expenses incurred.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Loving it!

Glad you got a kick out of it, but James doesn't know half as much as he claims to-

The outbreak wasn't unexpected, Mr. Smarty James