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mac3194 10.30.2010 11:04 PM

Toughest Buggy for $150-250
 
so what are my options i currently have a savage flux and i bought my lilttle bro a used duratrax raze and i notice how durable it is and how well it handles so i think im in the market for a new basher buggy that i can buy as an E-roller. im mainly looking for durability and speed!!!! im gonna be running a 1515 2200kv motor

any input would be appreciated
thanks

magman 10.30.2010 11:50 PM

mugen mbx-5's can be had cheap and they are tanks

mac3194 10.31.2010 12:18 AM

ok thats one so far lol

DwightSchrute 10.31.2010 08:00 AM

you can get a used losi 8ight race roller for $150-250. those are the most durable buggies i've ever come across. i've had mine for almost 2 years and i still have yet to break anything.

the rc8's are also very durable as well.

both buggies have held jump records for the longest jumps.

steveo 10.31.2010 12:00 PM

i had a kyosho mp777 and i thought it to be a little more stout than my rc8

mac3194 10.31.2010 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DwightSchrute (Post 386032)
you can get a used losi 8ight race roller for $150-250. those are the most durable buggies i've ever come across. i've had mine for almost 2 years and i still have yet to break anything.

the rc8's are also very durable as well.

both buggies have held jump records for the longest jumps.


do u bash yours or just race??? because im gonna be bashin' and crashin' lol

reno911 10.31.2010 01:02 PM

I'll agree with magman mugens are tough buggies.

My E-Raze is a tank.

The Losi 810 will be a tank as my ten t can take it all and keep coming back.

Heck most buggies I can recall take beatings well, though Mugens take a lot, I never broke anything on my mbx5 in over a year of bashing. Wish I could get a hold of another one for cheap to make into an on road machine.

DwightSchrute 10.31.2010 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac3194 (Post 386043)
do u bash yours or just race??? because im gonna be bashin' and crashin' lol

i have one for bashin' and one for racing. i even jump mine in the street on skateboartd ramps. it's extremely durable.

Semi Pro 10.31.2010 02:43 PM

the 8ight and the hotbodies lighting are both great bashers with cheep parts, you should see some of the crashes i have had with my carbon 8ight and still nothing has broken

el tomaso 10.31.2010 03:05 PM

I'd buy a lightly used hyper 8Pro or 8,5Pro, and rc monster motormount and batt-tray. I hear good things about the durability, and mine is amazing. Love those spider diffs!

TG

mac3194 10.31.2010 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reno911 (Post 386053)
I'll agree with magman mugens are tough buggies.

My E-Raze is a tank.

The Losi 810 will be a tank as my ten t can take it all and keep coming back.

Heck most buggies I can recall take beatings well, though Mugens take a lot, I never broke anything on my mbx5 in over a year of bashing. Wish I could get a hold of another one for cheap to make into an on road machine.

can i have some more info on ur e-raze since i already have one i might convert it but can the drive train hold up to 4 or 5s with a mamba monster 2200

Muggydude 11.01.2010 07:48 PM

Xray 808E (older 2008/09 version). Toughest buggy i have ever seen. Actually selling a roller with a ton of spares PM me.

reno911 11.01.2010 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac3194 (Post 386084)
can i have some more info on ur e-raze since i already have one i might convert it but can the drive train hold up to 4 or 5s with a mamba monster 2200

RCMonster motor mount for the Raze, and battery tray with esc mount. Done! I opted for the custom battery tray and mounted the esc directly to the chassis.

I run the Hobbywing exrun 150a and the castle 2200 on 4s. I went through the stock diff gears. Since replacing with the spiral cut hardened ones I have never had diff problems.

Unsullied_Spy 11.01.2010 11:10 PM

I've got a Hyper 7 PCR I'd let go for cheap, they're tough and easy to get parts for. Not the best if you're going to be racing but an excellent basher.

reno911 11.01.2010 11:13 PM

pcr? pivot pall?

mac3194 11.02.2010 05:14 PM

how are the ofna lx1e's are they duarble and can they handle 5-6s lipo drivetrain wise??

reno911 11.02.2010 07:11 PM

E-Raze

Had to replace servo and rx due to a little water skipping journey that goes unfinished until another day. So the wiring is not all done. I am going to place the rx behind the motor or on the mudguard. The second pic is the stock dif. I haven't had any problems since going to the hardened spiral diff ring and pinion gears.

http://img38.imagefra.me/i3b2/b12/grq4_fba_u8xye.jpg
http://img37.imagefra.me/i3b2/b12/grq4_934_u8xye.jpg

mac3194 11.02.2010 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reno911 (Post 386322)
E-Raze

Had to replace servo and rx due to a little water skipping journey that goes unfinished until another day. So the wiring is not all done. I am going to place the rx behind the motor or on the mudguard. The second pic is the stock dif. I haven't had any problems since going to the hardened spiral diff ring and pinion gears.

http://img38.imagefra.me/i3b2/b12/grq4_fba_u8xye.jpg
http://img37.imagefra.me/i3b2/b12/grq4_934_u8xye.jpg

arer the hardened spiral diff ring and pinion gears sold by duratrax?? if not were can i get them??

reno911 11.02.2010 11:44 PM

Sold by Duratrax. I picked mine up off Tower. I looked on their site it seems they aren't available any more. This is the link to part number.

http://www.duratrax.com/discontinued...ion-parts.html

Bunch of info here.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_51..._1/key_/tm.htm

Since this thing is discontinued picking up spares for key parts could never hurt. I have a whole extra buggy for spares. I am eventually going to break down and buy the nice machined aluminum carriers, and servo mounts and stuff.

I am pretty sure that ofna diffs will fit and work fine. The Raze shares many parts with other bodies. You just have to do a little searching.

mac3194 11.03.2010 08:02 PM

ok thanks reno911 ill search for some on eBay

reno911 11.04.2010 11:48 AM

90% of this stuff works on the raze as well.

http://www.rcmart.com/catalog/hobao-...page=1&sort=1a

mac3194 11.04.2010 03:22 PM

Wha are the 10% of parts that don't work just so I kno

reno911 11.04.2010 03:40 PM

Ehh, I don't really know what the other 10% is I have only bought a few things so far. One was a body. Then some hinge pins and e clips.

Jahay 11.08.2010 06:46 AM

Best buggy i have ever seen for PURE BASHING is the Hyper 7, with RCM Brushless conversion.

THIS THING WAS TOUGH!!! out jumped everything, never once broke! and the only mod it was running was alloy front hubs! AMAZNIG MACHINE FOR STOCK!

mac3194 11.08.2010 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jahay (Post 386929)
Best buggy i have ever seen for PURE BASHING is the Hyper 7, with RCM Brushless conversion.

THIS THING WAS TOUGH!!! out jumped everything, never once broke! and the only mod it was running was alloy front hubs! AMAZNIG MACHINE FOR STOCK!

how do the diffs hold up for 5-6s lipo??

josh9mille 11.08.2010 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac3194 (Post 386981)
how do the diffs hold up for 5-6s lipo??

since buggies are soo light and have small wheels and tires, the diffs never really go out in them. Ive had a few buggies and one truggy and never had a problem with diffs.

mac3194 11.08.2010 09:38 PM

ok thanks josh i think im gonna jump on the lx1e bandwagon lol and make it an off road speed machine lol

mac3194 11.14.2010 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reno911 (Post 386322)
E-Raze

Had to replace servo and rx due to a little water skipping journey that goes unfinished until another day. So the wiring is not all done. I am going to place the rx behind the motor or on the mudguard. The second pic is the stock dif. I haven't had any problems since going to the hardened spiral diff ring and pinion gears.

http://img38.imagefra.me/i3b2/b12/grq4_fba_u8xye.jpg
http://img37.imagefra.me/i3b2/b12/grq4_934_u8xye.jpg

Hey RENO im gonna convet my raze instead of buying something new i will be running a MMM 2200 combo on 5s and an rcm motor mount is there anything i should upgrade now or stock up on??
Im gonna start this project as soon as i get my esc replaced from castle:neutral:

Thanks for ur help

reno911 11.15.2010 02:36 PM

Nothing major. Maybe some hinge pins, and e-clips. I hate those stupid e-clips. If I find a set of captured hinge pins I will definitely get them. Make sure to shim your diffs. If you get the spiral cut they require a bit of a break in. So take it easy on them when you first put them in.

I replaced the plastic chassis braces with metal. Revo turnbuckles/pushrods make for excellent chassis support.

Besides that I haven't broke anything on it in some time now but I would say maybe get an extra set of the rear carriers if not get the aluminum ones. It is a pretty freaking tough buggy, so I don't think you will need much. Keep an eye out on Craigslist and RCTech though, usually you can pick up a whole extra buggy for reasonably cheap since they aren't made anymore and they were pretty popular, at least in my area.

I'll have to get you some updated pictures. Should have some for you tonight after work.

mac3194 11.15.2010 04:19 PM

Thanks Reno I should also start my conversion today and maybe post pics. hopefully the diffs aren't stripped

reno911 11.15.2010 04:25 PM

No problem, I have been looking for a set of big bores as well. I have seen many put big bores on their Lx1's and figured that the raze should be able to handle bigger shocks. Hell it would help with my set up since it is kind of heavy.

I have an older raze thread on here somewhere.

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...highlight=raze

And another older one. (not mine)

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...ht=raze&page=2

mac3194 11.15.2010 10:49 PM

Here's my raze it just needs a new esc and a 2.4ghz radio and a few little other things hopefully ill get it running by thanksgiving
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...mrcpics006.jpghttp://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...94/raze002.jpg

reno911 11.15.2010 11:11 PM

^^^ Looking good.

As promised here are the completed updated pictures of the Raze.

http://img38.imagefra.me/i3bf/b12/grq4_c16_u8xye.jpg
http://img40.imagefra.me/i3bf/b12/grq4_77d_u8xye.jpg
http://img37.imagefra.me/i3bf/b12/grq4_1c0_u8xye.jpg

Got to love Revo pushrods!

mac3194 11.15.2010 11:14 PM

wow nice pics reno, man i should of got that esc instead of buying another mamba monster :( how do u like it??

reno911 11.15.2010 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac3194 (Post 387695)
wow nice pics reno, man i should of got that esc instead of buying another mamba monster :( how do u like it??

Thanks! The MMM is not a a crap I bought an ESC decision, it is a great ESC. I love my EXRuns, especially the ABS braking part, as well as the programming card. Nothing has the support and background as the MMM though. Your raze will rip with the MMM and that motor. Can't wait till the end product!

mac3194 11.16.2010 12:16 AM

Yea ur right about the support and waranty part I'm sending both of mine in tomorrow hopefully they dnt take long to get em' back to me. Did u paint on top of ur body?? I kinda want to do that go mine because im getting sick of the red body and wanted to color it black but i dnt feel like buying a body lol.

How fast do u think urs is on 4s and on whaT gearing??

Thanks, Miguel

reno911 11.16.2010 12:08 PM

They usually take around a week or two before they repair it or send you a new one. Great customer service though!

My body is a a Raze body. I bought a clear one and painted it the usual way.

I run around 35-45 on 4s on a dead straight. Plenty of pep for bashing and sand with out getting the motor warm.

I am geared 14/54 or what ever the stock spur is.

mac3194 11.16.2010 06:16 PM

The stock spur is a 46T i think, im running 20/46 on 5s lol I'm gonna be trying to beat a rustler vxl. do u think its possible?? if not im gonna have to try to put the 25T on it lol!!

mac3194 11.16.2010 08:14 PM

Here is the last updated pic before i get my esc and reciever, i just cant decide if i wanna velcro the batteries to the mud guard or the chassis
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...94/rapi001.jpg

reno911 11.16.2010 09:24 PM

I imagine with a 2200 I could gear higher as well, 14t pinion is pretty fun and fast for me, 20t on 5s I have a feeling will be crazy.

Mac, you only need one servo saver. The buggy has one built in you don't need another one on the servo as well.

I would look into getting Mikes battery/esc tray for your buggy. It will complement it nicely as well as give your esc and battery a place to stay secured. I wouldn't trust velcro on anything but light planes and helicopters.


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