Viper motors
 

Just curious, who makes them? They look a lot like Tekin motors to me.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...less-Motor-75T

Surprisingly, the company is based in Washington.
http://www.viper-rc.com
Looks like a Tekin clone to me, but based in the US? They have to have some sort of affiliation or deal with Tekin or I see lawsuit, they are way too similar to me. Not only the same can design but also the same colors? People need to get more original these days, all it is is copy copy copy.. :no:

Maybe it's just me, but I don't see it as such a big deal since Tekin's are 1/8 and these are 1/10 (and don't look anything like Tekin 1/10). Maybe they can be accused of being unoriginal and trying to ride on Tekin's coattails, but not steal their 1/8 motor customers. I think Leopard is worse since they look exactly the same AND are competing with Castle for the same 1/8 motor market.

Viper R/C is supposed to be releasing a 1/8 ESC and motors soon though. I'll reserve my judgment for when those come out. If the 1/8 look like a Tekin clone then I'll take issue.

I don't see the big deal either. Those are 1/10 motors and I like the beefy look. I'm waiting on the dual fet board 1/10 ESC's to mess around with. I too am waiting for the 1/8 stuff.

I saw you posting on the RC Tech threads. The amount of copper in the solder tabs does look impressive, hopefully the 1/8 motors will follow suit with. I do hope the 1/8 motors have their own styling different from the 1/10 though, so there aren't any issues with being accused of cloning Tekin for the 1/8 market.

In the newest A-main promo email Viper R/C was the headline item. Big picture with slogan that reads "THIS WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING" I think they are nice looking motors, but unless they have some serious tricks up their sleeve I think that's some marketing exaggeration.

The copper is one of the things that got me interested in their stuff. The ESC metal casing is nice as is the multifunctional programmer. I just need one of them to do a burnout and see if it holds up. My other buddies can play around with the other features and compare it against the other 1/10 ESC's on the market.

Tekin also makes 1/10 motors and they look identical to these motors. But for a company that has pretty much never been heard of these motors aren't cheap. I seen them on AMain for about $83, You can pick up a Tekin or Novak for about $5 more and at least those are known companies.

Personally I can't wait for a Castle spec class motor line!

I know Tekin makes 1/10 motors, but none I've seen look anything like the Viper 1/10. Can you post a link or pic?

Castle and Tekin were unknown newcomer companies at one time too. If people never gave new companies a chance they wouldn't be where they are today.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXVDA6&P=7

Viper cans are black instead of silver other that how much of a difference is there?

Well, they probably have their motors licensed like what Castle did to the Neu motors. This is actually good for hobbyists since there will be more choices and prices will come down significantly.

Copy or not, it's up to the compannies to win their customers with other things such as excellent customer service like Castle does.

You could say that about a ton of different 1/10 motors, including accepted names like Novak and Trinity. They are a spec'd to fit the rules, they can only do so much to change things. Any differences are generally subtle, like the Viper has different endbell design and different solder tabs, and that's without seeing the backplate or sensor package to see if there are any differences there.

When I look at these two pics I don't see how a Viper 1/10 is trying to copy a Tekin 1/10 motor

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...vipermotor.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...nredlinebl.jpg

the viper doesnt even look that much like tekins off road motors, i think people are just seeing a reslimblance between the color law out and jumping the shark

personaly, i going to buy one for my onroad and see for my self if they are worth the $80

so far from what i have seen they look great and i have spent more for bad motors, ie orion and speed pasion

Are there any pics of the 1/8 scale motors and esc floating around? I tried searching, didn't find anything. The 1/10 scale stuff looks good enough though..

Thomas G

I am comparing their looks more to the Tekin 1/8th scale motors. (don't want to link directly in the forums due to the image size). The endbell is almost identical IMO and the engraving is in the same color in the same area of the motor. Maybe I'm just being overzealous. :oops:

Tekin:
http://www.teamtekin.com/product%20p...in-T8-1002.jpg

I agree they do look like a Tekin 1/8, but since they are 1/10 they aren't trying to steal Tekin's 1/8 business. If you can accuse them of anything it's trying to ride on Tekin's coattails (although the big "VIPER" with pic on the side of the motor clearly shows it's not a Tekin), but I don't see that as bad as directly competing and copying like the Leopard Hobby vs. Castle thing.

The viper looks solid....I don't run solder tab motors due to my non soldering abilities but these days reverse engineering and change xx% and your legal....its a hard market for anything these days

I'm gonna get a Hyper TT and planned to equip it with a Tekin motor, but when the time come to motor shop I'll def consider these Viper mills especially if considerably cheaper ?

You can fix that pretty easily! It just takes a bit of practice, and having a decent iron can make or break the experience. Check some Youtube vids and practice up on some old or broken stuff. You're missing out on a lot of great motor choices if you exclude motors with solder tabs.

Not only that, soldering is fun and worth every cent of the self satisfaction you get doing everything yourself.

the soldering is easy, i am bad at it but Viper has a hole which makes it easy:)

i just order the VST-3.5 motor for my 10th scale can't wait till it gets here

for sure let us know how it performs and your over all impression

i will do that

Man, they really need to release the 1/8 motors. I won't be able to get out and run one for a little while yet, but I want to have one in my hands so as soon as the weather clears I'll be ready!

just and update got to run my viper rc motor and i loved it i was able to get 55mph out of my setup after 4 or 5 high speed runs i the motor was warm to the touch so i think i got room to really push ....btw the ground was very dusty with traction compound i sure a would have hit 60mph easily...my current setup is a viper 3.5 vst motor 30 tooth pinon and tooth 72 spur 2s lipo 5000mah 40c gen aces pack looking to go to 35 tooth pinon and a 66 tooth spur on a 3s

Anyone hear any updates on the release date of their 1/8 motors?

Nope, but I'm still waiting as well. I want to try the cheat mode on 4s with one. Works with the Tekin 1/8 motor.

yes i called and talked to them on Monday 7th and was told that they are looking at may 2011 and should be on par with castle from 1400 kv to 2650 kv

I'm thinking you meant to say on par with Tekin. Castle has a limited amount of kv options.

yeah you right

Yep, that's exactly what I want to do. Hhmmm... gonna be a close call if I can wait until May. Should be down in Orlando the first week of April and I want to run my GT as soon as I get there. I'll probably end up picking up a Tekin and then selling it or keeping it as a spare once the Viper are released.

The 1/8th motor is out!!

http://viper-rc.com/vse.html

looks alot like tekin T8 motors.. cant wait to hear feedbacks on this motor!

I'm waiting for feedback as well. I would've of jump on it, if I didn't buy a 56 pole motor.

56 pole?

^ I think he might have hit 2 keys at once, lol. 56 pole would be interesting though...

Yes 56 Pole. It's a hub motor for my bicycle. I need more torque off the line and stay away from those snobby BMW drivers at work.

I'm going to be picking up a Viper 1/8 motor when I get my next paycheck. Been waiting to try one for a long time!

i have 2 of these motor and a 1oth scale esc and i love them a lot i got 58 mph on the vst 3.5 motor on a 2s lipos