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aqwut 01.31.2011 09:53 AM

Any thoughts about MGM TMM-40063-3 X-Series
 
Hi Guys,
I've been out of RCs for over a year. Here's my story. The company which I previously was working for was the largest mushroom produce company in Canada, but they had to declare bankruptcy. So I lost my job. Was I worried? No. Hurt? yes. The following day another mushroom company called me up for a job offer. I was a bit indecisive, but I said, "what the heck". I am glad I did, because now the current company I work for is the biggest mushroom producer in Canada. So for the last year, I've been working hard. I had no time for RCs. But now, I am back.

Sorry for the sobbing story.. :lol:

I'm looking to upgrade all of my RC vehicles to use this Series ESC. I'd like to have the same brand ESC for my RC cars, just for ease of programming and etc.

Thinking of getting:

TMM 40063-3 for my 1/5 Rampage to run on 15S
3x TMM 25063-3 for all 3 of my GSTs.

Has anyone use any of these ESCs yet?.. Thanks...:smile:

TexasSP 01.31.2011 12:37 PM

MGM makes great ESC's, however they are expensive and getting them serviced outside of Europe is difficult and time consuming.

I would go with Castle seeing as how you are in Canada.

toplakd 01.31.2011 05:01 PM

If he want's 63 volts, he can not go with Castle.


Dejan

TexasSP 01.31.2011 05:09 PM

Castle makes a 5th scale system though, which is what I was referring to.

toplakd 01.31.2011 05:11 PM

Castle makes 8s, if he is looking into 40063 and 25063 he is not going to run 8s.

Dejan

aqwut 01.31.2011 06:31 PM

That's correct, I'm looking for something that could handle higher voltage (14-15S)... and lots of Amps..

Looks like the MGM seems to be my only option ... But Thanks for letting me know about Castle's 1/5th scale ESC ... I have just ordered 3 of those for my 1/8th scale RCs ... There's goes having the same ESCs rule... :) but the 40063-3 is looking good to me...

The Spin can only handle 200 Amps...

toplakd 01.31.2011 06:35 PM

You can also go with Schulze Elektronik

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE5IDeClgp0

Dejan

mckrill 02.01.2011 06:08 AM

For what it is worth..

I have used ESC from a variety of chinese comapnies for my planes and helicopters. For cars; Castle, BK, Losi, Jeti, Schulze and MGM.

Regarding MGM: Unfortunately not the new series of MGM, but the other series has been fantastic. Super-smooth..., with good brakes. A lot of punch and really good feeling on the throttle. I have really miss-used the MGM and turned off all the protective features - never any probs at all.. Once it became very wet and stopped, but after drying up it worked perfectly again. The temp-protection cannot be disabled, so I have been running it up to 100C many times - it just stops, beeps and after a reset from the radio and a few minutes of rest it starts again

I know it is not the same series, but the brand has worked very well for me. I'm also thinking of the 40063 for a coming project:angel:

aqwut 02.05.2011 12:53 AM

I've used similar brands as well... I have used 3 different MGM brands, but seeking different alternatives for HV other than Schulze. Although the 40.160WKs were awesome controllers...

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Originally Posted by mckrill (Post 396146)
For what it is worth..

I have used ESC from a variety of chinese comapnies for my planes and helicopters. For cars; Castle, BK, Losi, Jeti, Schulze and MGM.

Regarding MGM: Unfortunately not the new series of MGM, but the other series has been fantastic. Super-smooth..., with good brakes. A lot of punch and really good feeling on the throttle. I have really miss-used the MGM and turned off all the protective features - never any probs at all.. Once it became very wet and stopped, but after drying up it worked perfectly again. The temp-protection cannot be disabled, so I have been running it up to 100C many times - it just stops, beeps and after a reset from the radio and a few minutes of rest it starts again

I know it is not the same series, but the brand has worked very well for me. I'm also thinking of the 40063 for a coming project:angel:


simplechamp 02.05.2011 01:59 AM

Wow, 15S, plugging in those connectors is likely to create a small mushroom cloud, LOL!

EDIT: With that high of voltage, do you also need the super high current rating too? Isn't the main reasoning behind using an HV system to help keep current draw low? Even 100A at 56V would be over 7 horsepower! I would think 100-200A is more than enough.

aqwut 02.28.2011 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 396689)
Wow, 15S, plugging in those connectors is likely to create a small mushroom cloud, LOL!

EDIT: With that high of voltage, do you also need the super high current rating too? Isn't the main reasoning behind using an HV system to help keep current draw low? Even 100A at 56V would be over 7 horsepower! I would think 100-200A is more than enough.

You're Right. I do not want to use a fan, and the electronics will run much cooler at the load I will be operating at. Also, the potential for more added power is there. Just a safety factor. I remember back in the days when I was running 2x Schulze 40.160WK to power 2 1950 motors. It was such a good feeling of not worrying about the ESC frying... :intello:

ESC is on it's way, now how am I going to run 15S? 3x 5S cells?... I may give HK's Nano-Tech a test run with this!

I can't wait until it gets here..

JERRY2KONE 02.28.2011 01:24 PM

Sounds great.
 
Sounds like a great project to share on here. We just arrived here in Prague and will be here for the next two to three years, but eventually I was thinking about helping people out with MGM once we get settled here and I have a chance to spend some time at the MGM factory/shop so I can see whats, what. Of all the ESC's on the market MGM has had my attention for the best package overall. They seem to be a very solid controller, and the smoothness of their operation is a plus. The only issues I have seen that make them difficult has been the customer service being in the middle of Europe. Especially for you guys in the USA. So lets see if we can provide a little effort to make things more user friendly for warranty repairs and such.

The next couple of weeks I will be pretty busy getting the kids setup with school, and getting our new home setup once our personal goods show up. Then it will be time for me to do a little research and finding my way around the city so I can travel with ease. Once I find MGM I will let your guys know how things look. Good luck with your 15 S project.

aqwut 02.28.2011 06:52 PM

I've spoke to Martin Dvorsky @ MGM.. They are expecting you Jerry.. LOL

JERRY2KONE 02.28.2011 08:12 PM

Very cool
 
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Originally Posted by aqwut (Post 399533)
I've spoke to Martin Dvorsky @ MGM.. They are expecting you Jerry.. LOL

Oh thank you, that is very cool. Shoot me a quick address referance and I will put it into our new TomTom GPS so I can find it next weekend. I am excited about visiting with them and hopefully gaining some perspective, and sharing some of the concerns people have from the USA dealing with them. Maybe there are ways to overcome the issues and make the experience a more rewarding one for both sides of the fence. That would be my goal anyway. Thank you for the support and communication.

snellemin 02.28.2011 10:45 PM

Man that would be sweet. I've been eyeballing the new MGM ESC 280A with the full waterproof option.

aqwut 02.28.2011 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by snellemin (Post 399573)
Man that would be sweet. I've been eyeballing the new MGM ESC 280A with the full waterproof option.

I have the 280 6S E-Series (Older model)... and it's just awesome!...

snellemin 03.01.2011 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by aqwut (Post 399580)
I have the 280 6S E-Series (Older model)... and it's just awesome!...


:surprised::gasp:

JERRY2KONE 03.01.2011 02:12 AM

Hope to help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by snellemin (Post 399573)
Man that would be sweet. I've been eyeballing the new MGM ESC 280A with the full waterproof option.

Yea I really do hope to be of some help for everyone on here where MGM is concerned. At least for as long as we are here in Prague. Right now it is for two to three years, and could be extended for up to four years if all goes well. We love the new school for the kids, and our house is great so why not. Once our things arrive we will be golden.

TexasSP 03.01.2011 11:56 AM

I think if MGM could set up some kind of small US presence or at least contract through someone here to handle warranty issues and the like that they would have better success. The are very good controllers although their software interface left a little to be desired last time I used it. Hopefully some headway can be made and doors opened for us stateside in regards to this.

JERRY2KONE 03.01.2011 12:07 PM

I agree.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 399619)
I think if MGM could set up some kind of small US presence or at least contract through someone here to handle warranty issues and the like that they would have better success. The are very good controllers although their software interface left a little to be desired last time I used it. Hopefully some headway can be made and doors opened for us stateside in regards to this.

I agree with you, and all I can do is try to get something cooked up to better our success with using their controllers, and getting better customer services. We were out and about today trapsing all over town, but I have yet to pull up the MGM address and put it into our GPS, so I can see what part of town they are in. This place is quite beautiful. We were on the St Charles bridge today, which is where XXX 2, and Mission Impossible was filmed. There is just so much to do and see here, and the place is very busy with tourists.

aqwut 03.02.2011 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 399620)
I agree with you, and all I can do is try to get something cooked up to better our success with using their controllers, and getting better customer services. We were out and about today trapsing all over town, but I have yet to pull up the MGM address and put it into our GPS, so I can see what part of town they are in. This place is quite beautiful. We were on the St Charles bridge today, which is where XXX 2, and Mission Impossible was filmed. There is just so much to do and see here, and the place is very busy with tourists.

The address is on MGM's website, the Dvorky brothers say that they are located in Zlin.. About 300KM from Prague.

JERRY2KONE 03.02.2011 01:45 AM

Oh crap.
 
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Originally Posted by aqwut (Post 399692)
The address is on MGM's website, the Dvorky brothers say that they are located in Zlin.. About 300KM from Prague.

OH crap I thought that it would be closer to the capital. That is about 150 miles from here, which would take about two hours to get there. Man I was hoping that they would be like across town so I could just jump on the train once in a while and stop over there. This will now end up being a weekend project for me. Oh well I will surely visit with them anyway. I will let you guys know when I do. Thanks for the imput.

aqwut 03.18.2011 08:49 PM

The picture of the ESC does not serve it justice.. it's huge...!
http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/i...0318-02059.jpghttp://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1300495509

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1300495509

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1300495509


Here it is beside 3 Mamba XL ESCs
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/i...g?t=1300502097
http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/i...0318-02059.jpg

snellemin 03.19.2011 04:31 AM

:gasp::gasp::gasp::gasp:

JERRY2KONE 03.19.2011 05:27 AM

Looks like
 
Well it looks like it would fit into a Baja 5b, but not much else. I would assume mostly for the 1/5th scale and larger. So what are you planning to do with it? Can you post up the specs of that one?

I have exchanged emails with Martin Dvorsky a few times now and once our van arrives we will drive out to meet with them at the MGM shop/factory just to get aquainted and discuss issues dealing with them from the USA and see if there is anything that can be done to better relations warranty wise. All we can do it try. The wife and I are discussing taking a weekend trip to Zlin so we can spend the night there and wonder about the area, and at the same time visit with Martin. So it shoulc be interesting enough. Our van shoud be here in a few weeks, we hope.

aqwut 03.19.2011 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 401650)
Well it looks like it would fit into a Baja 5b, but not much else. I would assume mostly for the 1/5th scale and larger. So what are you planning to do with it? Can you post up the specs of that one?

I have exchanged emails with Martin Dvorsky a few times now and once our van arrives we will drive out to meet with them at the MGM shop/factory just to get aquainted and discuss issues dealing with them from the USA and see if there is anything that can be done to better relations warranty wise. All we can do it try. The wife and I are discussing taking a weekend trip to Zlin so we can spend the night there and wonder about the area, and at the same time visit with Martin. So it shoulc be interesting enough. Our van shoud be here in a few weeks, we hope.

One thing, Do Not Be Afraid to order directly from them... When I opened the package, I could smell the ESC. It was that fresh, custom made feeling that I got. Package arrived in about 2 weeks. I'm am really wanting to get 3x 25063-3 ESCs, just waiting for a response from Martin. And, there were no surprise charges(or any at all) when I picked it up from the post office.

This baby will be going into my 1/5th scale Rampage MT. This ESC will be able to push my 3080-8 HiAmp to the limit and still have 100A to spare. With the 100A,12S ESC; I've been only using 1/3rd of the power of the LMT 3080. I am really excited to get to work on my RCs again, it's been a while since then.

So my goal is to try to get this motor to hit 15KW constant. And that's calculating voltage drop @ 3.5 Volts & 95% Efficiency. I know I would probably have to gear it very high, say for 80-90 MPH.

x-y 03.20.2011 04:19 AM

awesome ..... much $

¿which cars will use this beasts? ¿which motors?

:whip:

aqwut 03.20.2011 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by x-y (Post 401760)
awesome ..... much $

¿which cars will use this beasts? ¿which motors?

:whip:

the motor ran over a grand after everything...
I will be using my 3080-8 HiAmp, and using it in the same Rampage MT, or I may put it in my 4x4 FG Monster. I'm not sure yet. I might not have enough room on the FG.

I'm thinking of getting a Neu 44 series as well... but not sure of the power capabilities... Maybe brushless pocket quad?..

SV6000 03.03.2012 11:20 PM

I am converting a FG 4x4 Baja Comp and am looking at this ESC, have a 2230 1Y on its way to push it around on 12s, have you made any progress on your project aqwut. I used to have 2 MGM 280 6s ESCs but i did not like them very much as they kept burning up and having brake and programming issues. What are the new ones like??

aqwut 03.04.2012 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SV6000 (Post 418779)
I am converting a FG 4x4 Baja Comp and am looking at this ESC, have a 2230 1Y on its way to push it around on 12s, have you made any progress on your project aqwut. I used to have 2 MGM 280 6s ESCs but i did not like them very much as they kept burning up and having brake and programming issues. What are the new ones like??

Not much progress since my last post friend. This year I plan on spending more time on RCs (I say that every year)... :intello:

SV6000 03.05.2012 12:08 AM

Me too mate, i will post some pics of the baja when the motor mount and cooling jacket get here, might run Hydra ICE 200 to start with and see how it goes first.

crazyjr 03.05.2012 02:38 AM

I have been looking at the MGM's lately, I am planning a hi volt mini e-revo (6s+). I know 6s is not true hi-volt, but in a merv it will be. I still love castle for service, But they do not have a high volt capable esc for the mini vehicles.

freddy 03.05.2012 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr (Post 418844)
I have been looking at the MGM's lately, I am planning a hi volt mini e-revo (6s+). I know 6s is not true hi-volt, but in a merv it will be. I still love castle for service, But they do not have a high volt capable esc for the mini vehicles.

Mamba Max PRO, do not think you are able find any 6s++ system that fits,, beside, you are only able to fit a tiny 3s lipo in there and a big motor will only decrease the reliable to a point where the car is not usable.

bruce750i 03.05.2012 11:59 AM

6s Merv could work if you do your homework in finding a good kv "small block" and gear it correctly.

crazyjr 03.05.2012 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddy (Post 418855)
Mamba Max PRO, do not think you are able find any 6s++ system that fits,, beside, you are only able to fit a tiny 3s lipo in there and a big motor will only decrease the reliable to a point where the car is not usable.

The idea, is to use smaller esc and motor to limit the stress on drivetrain and electronics. The smaller MGM's can be got much smaller than the next choice, The Quark 65 car type. Quark makes smaller ones but they are only 5s capable.
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Originally Posted by bruce750i (Post 418864)
6s Merv could work if you do your homework in finding a good kv "small block" and gear it correctly.

The plan is to pair the MGM with a smaller tenshock or lehner motor (10 series) probably around 1200kv

ziggy12345 05.14.2012 03:48 PM

Ive been running the 25063 x series with Lehner 3040/6. Its a bit of a miss match as the motor cant handle the volts of the esc and the ESC cant deliver the amps the motor can handle but I cant fault the ESC. I use it with 2 x 6s packs and get a constant 240 amps no problems. The MGM has some great feaures like throttle ramp timing up to 1 minute. Amp peak cut off, peak motor rev cut off, data logging etc...

Cheers


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