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v8hatch 02.09.2011 09:32 PM

Homemade Brushless Baja 5B style Buggy
 
Ok guy's i built this about 5 months ago.

It's based on a Muggy with a stretched chassis to meet 1/5th scale length, I picked up a Muggy as a roller and the idea started from there.

ESC = Hobbywing 150amp
Motor = CC 1717
lipo's = 3s 5000mah in series


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...c/IMG_0266.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...c/IMG_0264.jpg

And this is where it all started......
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1020101189.jpg

brian015 02.09.2011 09:47 PM

Looks very nice - more pics please - show us how you did it. :yes:

:great:

slimthelineman 02.09.2011 10:02 PM

That thing is wicked! Looks like 2wd from the photos, why not 4wd? I know the Baja is only 2wd but with the muggy platform why not? Nonetheless a great job.

Overdriven 02.09.2011 10:30 PM

Definitly very cool, nice job. And yes, show us more of it!

v8hatch 02.09.2011 10:43 PM

Thanks guy's yes many more photo's and video's to come. Definantly 4wd guy's.....

v8hatch 02.09.2011 11:08 PM

Here is the front of the chassis
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1020101197.jpg

The back of the chassis
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1020101194.jpg

The centre diff mounted
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1020101196.jpg

Front mounted up
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1020101198.jpg

Some close up's
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1020101201.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1020101202.jpg

The Baja rear bumper mounted
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1020101208.jpg

v8hatch 02.09.2011 11:13 PM

Starting to take some shape at this stage
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1020101212.jpg

The muggy link is as you can see very thin and easy to bend so i made my own link, much bigger.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1020101215.jpg

The rear tower was very short so i got one that straightens the shocks out
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1020101219.jpg

v8hatch 02.09.2011 11:18 PM

HHHhhhmmmmm bearings much better
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1020101228.jpg

Mounts for the front of the boll cage
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1020101237.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1020101240.jpg

much bigger than my truggy
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...1020101243.jpg

bigsteel 02.09.2011 11:49 PM

Wow,very nice build,is it just 2wd? Why not keep the muggys 4wd?

thzero 02.09.2011 11:53 PM

Looks like its 4WD to me. You can see the rear drive shaft and the extended front drive shaft.

bigsteel 02.09.2011 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thzero (Post 397339)
Looks like its 4WD to me. You can see the rear drive shaft and the extended front drive shaft.

Guess i missed it, now it's even cooler!

FG101C 02.10.2011 12:12 AM

Very cool, I like the stance of it and the fab work is awesome.

v8hatch 02.10.2011 07:16 AM

Ok motor fitted up
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...c/IMG_0105.jpg

Some lights
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...c/IMG_0144.jpg

v8hatch 02.10.2011 07:17 AM

Sitting next to a real baja 5B
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...c/IMG_0239.jpg

v8hatch 02.10.2011 07:21 AM

The front alloy prop shaft did't last long so a 12mm steel one now sits in it's place.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...c/IMG_0558.jpg

Got a 33kg servo that can handle up to a 3s lipo from HK for about $80 delivered.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...c/IMG_0512.jpg

v8hatch 02.10.2011 07:25 AM

Lipo's brackets done.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...c/IMG_0559.jpg

I mounted the ESC on the underside of the roof, it's out of the way and the wires are much neater coming down to meet the battery's and motor
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...c/IMG_0515.jpg

brian015 02.10.2011 08:53 AM

I'm curious, how did your first driveshaft fail? (Mine has held up well)

thzero 02.10.2011 09:21 AM

That's not a bad idea! :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by v8hatch (Post 397368)
I mounted the ESC on the underside of the roof, it's out of the way and the wires are much neater coming down to meet the battery's and motor


suicideneil 02.10.2011 02:14 PM

This is what RC-Monster is about, that is an awesome build.

How much does it weigh rtr?

simplechamp 02.10.2011 02:30 PM

This thing is definitely awesome. I have had great luck with those Turnigy HV Titanium servos so far. I run the 2S version, HV767.

v8hatch 02.10.2011 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian015 (Post 397369)
I'm curious, how did your first driveshaft fail? (Mine has held up well)

I think it might have had a slight bend in it and with the torque and speed of the 1717 it just twisted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 397395)
This is what RC-Monster is about, that is an awesome build.

How much does it weigh rtr?

It weighs 7kg with everything in it

thzero 02.10.2011 04:40 PM

15.4lbs... not bad, my Savage conversion was about a pound heavier.

Quote:

Originally Posted by v8hatch (Post 397413)
It weighs 7kg with everything in it


el tomaso 02.11.2011 04:22 AM

I would rather have one like yours than a real baja, much cooler, lighter, BL, and 4wd!

Thomas G

v8hatch 02.11.2011 04:51 AM

Thanks mate it is pretty awesome, I got a lot satisfaction in building it and it's great feeling when your driving it knowing you built it.

_paralyzed_ 02.11.2011 12:20 PM

Wow man!! That thing is awesome!!:yes: Why haven't you come to Rc-Monster sooner?

Great build I love it!:love:

Overdriven 02.11.2011 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v8hatch (Post 397482)
Thanks mate it is pretty awesome, I got a lot satisfaction in building it and it's great feeling when your driving it knowing you built it.

Building it yourself tends to have that effect, gotta love that feeling. My rebuilds and minor customization just isn't cutting it for me right now. I think it's time for me too build my own monster truck based 5b buggy, I've been admiring everyone else's long enough. Although I do still have the 5t body from my failed stretch chassis Revo, descisions descisions.

Byte 02.11.2011 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el tomaso (Post 397481)
I would rather have one like yours than a real baja, much cooler, lighter, BL, and 4wd!

Thomas G

+1

IMO your Baja looks much more cooler than a real one! Great job! You might want to replace the stock shock for a aluminium one, Losi (and other companys) have got nice anodized shocksfor LST/muggys.

Dj_Sparky 02.11.2011 05:49 PM

What shock tower is that? And I'm guessing the bulkheads are losi muggy?

Very nice work.

magman 02.11.2011 06:33 PM

very nice indeed. I have always wanted to do a 5th scale conversion using a truggy as a base...been thinking about it for 3 yrs... I may have to rekindle the idea.

v8hatch 02.12.2011 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 397501)
Wow man!! That thing is awesome!!:yes: Why haven't you come to Rc-Monster sooner?

Great build I love it!:love:

Thanks mate, I'm not sure why but i'm here now.....lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overdriven (Post 397515)
Building it yourself tends to have that effect, gotta love that feeling. My rebuilds and minor customization just isn't cutting it for me right now. I think it's time for me too build my own monster truck based 5b buggy, I've been admiring everyone else's long enough. Although I do still have the 5t body from my failed stretch chassis Revo, descisions descisions.

You should do one made, it's very rewarding. I think i have seen your stretched revo on youtube in a car park going over a small jump, it looked like the counter lever suspension setup isn't up the size of 5th scale.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte (Post 397516)
+1

IMO your Baja looks much more cooler than a real one! Great job! You might want to replace the stock shock for a aluminium one, Losi (and other companys) have got nice anodized shocksfor LST/muggys.

Thanks mate, yes i am going to get aluminium diff cases, shocks and the front tower as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dj_Sparky (Post 397545)
What shock tower is that? And I'm guessing the bulkheads are losi muggy?

Very nice work.

Yeah the bulkheads are muggy and i think from memory the rear tower is a LST

Quote:

Originally Posted by magman (Post 397548)
very nice indeed. I have always wanted to do a 5th scale conversion using a truggy as a base...been thinking about it for 3 yrs... I may have to rekindle the idea.

Do it man do it, you will love it more than any other RC you have ever had.

The Cow 02.12.2011 11:04 AM

Great looking build... Love the use of the muggy platform combined with the cage and wing, very sharp looking! Should be a beast :intello:

Heath

Overdriven 02.13.2011 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v8hatch (Post 397590)
You should do one made, it's very rewarding. I think i have seen your stretched revo on youtube in a car park going over a small jump, it looked like the counter lever suspension setup isn't up the size of 5th scale.

Yea I need to do another build. That revo wasn't mine, never did get any vids of it. But the results were very similar. Even with the stiffest springs and sway bars it couldn't support or control its weight very well. And it was under 14lbs rtr. Needed to be a little wider too, and the 5t body kinda limited that. Think I'll see if my LHS will trade me the brand new 5t body for a 5b body set and cage, then find me a roller to build. Thanks for sharing your build dude!

v8hatch 02.13.2011 03:55 AM

Just for some fun i thought i would put some brake lights on the under side of the wing.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...c/IMG_0155.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...c/IMG_0170.jpg

v8hatch 02.13.2011 04:02 AM

This is the first run out the front of my house, just a quick test to see if everything is working.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0NhP7e4fgk

CarstenL 02.13.2011 07:35 AM

Love the build, great looking buggy. :smile:

brian015 02.13.2011 08:53 AM

Looked at a few of your vids - nice - may want to tape those front tires, though!

Questions: What top-speed are you geared for? Have you done much suspension tuning to dial in the handling?

-brian

v8hatch 02.13.2011 04:33 PM

Yeah i know it's crazy, i put very thick oil in the centre diff too.

i never geared it for any sort of speed i just went concervative to see how all the temps were and i haven't felt the need to change anything yet. it's got the muggy centre diff and a 15 tooth pinion.

No suspension tuning yet but i'm looking at getting some raven dual rate springs, not sure what oil yet. the buggy wieghs 6kg rtr but i'm thinking of fitting in one 6s lipo along with the other 2 3s lipo's and run it parallel with the 3s lipo's for longer run times this would bring the wieght up to around the 7kg mark.

CarstenL 02.13.2011 05:02 PM

Well since a stock LST is around 5kgs and uses 30wt oil, I'd suggest 40 or 45wt to start with.

brian015 02.13.2011 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarstenL (Post 397802)
Well since a stock LST is around 5kgs and uses 30wt oil, I'd suggest 40 or 45wt to start with.

40wt oil in an LST shock is very thick. I was running 30-35wt oil in my 19lb buggy with the RC-Raven springs and it was plenty. More recently I've modded my pistons and will try out some weights, but you can read about that elsewhere. :yes:

v8hatch 02.13.2011 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian015 (Post 397805)
40wt oil in an LST shock is very thick. I was running 30-35wt oil in my 19lb buggy with the RC-Raven springs and it was plenty. More recently I've modded my pistons and will try out some weights, but you can read about that elsewhere. :yes:


WOW.....i checked out your build, very nice. yeah i'll start with 30 and see how it goes.


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