Neu/Castle Hitec BL Servos?
 

Is this for real? I saw this today on Facebook, and suspecting yet another tedious April Fools prank, went to the Hitec website for verification. But, it looks like this was posted on their news from Feb of this year: http://hitecrcd.com/blog/?cat=3

Not only are they using Neu/Castle components (I assume motor and controller), they run at 800kHz, use much less current (claiming 1/5 the power of a similar power/speed servo), and they use a magnetic encoder instead of the typical pot.

If this is real, it's sweet! Tear one of these apart and use the motor/controller parts as the drive system for a micro scale vehicle. :smile:

If it's yet another Apr 1 prank, then :whip:

Seems like it's true. Googling gave me the answer that Hitec presented them at the Nuremburg Toy Fair:

http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=61884

Ooooohhh me likey alot! Running futaba brushless digitals right now but that might have to change here pretty soon.

Wow, 486oz-in with .10 transit time?!?! What's not to like!!

What? Only 2S capable? That's not like Castle. I want a 6S capable servo.:rofl:

Bets on the prices?

Im guessing ~$200 for the base model ( HSB-9360TH ), $250 for the HSB-9370TH & $300 for the monster HSB-9380TH...

Hmm not to bad, torque isn't anything new or marvelous, but at the speed it is quite nice. Amp rating doesn't really matter me, it's not like these servos are going to double your run time or anything like that, it can use as much power as it wants so long as its fast and powerful. The day they make a 600+oz/in, 0.1sec servo will be the happiest day of my life:lol: I would be interested in seeing a test of the 'usable' 486/0.1 to the new futaba HV with 513/0.11 to see how it actually stacks up.

Kieren

This is a post from the link j.f.s posted. Looks like the dreams for a fast and powerful servo have been shattered. Also I hope the thing about performance not changing above 7.5v sentence, doesn't mean that torque is the same even when the servo is overvolted. Looks like i'll be sticking with futaba after all.

Kieren

^ It seems like they have a switching circuit built into the servo to power the motor at 7.4V the whole time. That would keep current draw from the BEC or Rx pack relatively constant and so extend run time.

I use a couple Futaba BL servos now but if these are reasonably priced I will have to try them out. :yes:

Since I run bec's I don't see the point of a second switching circuit in the servo. Plus then you can't run them on 8v:neutral:

Kieren

Umm since running them higher has no effect why would you want to? The switching circuit (if present) would keep the servo at full output regardless of input voltage. That is good.

Alright I just read a bit of the Flying Giants thread. It appears there is no Vreg since it's stated that they can be run on lower voltage, though with lower output. A step-up switching Vreg that keeps the servo at full power all the time. I guess that was wishful thinking. Hmmmmmm...

Does Neu or Castle have SENSORED motors?

They didn't, but probably they do now, because IMO hall sensor is a must for BL motors in servos to hold STATIC TORQUE--and it looks like a LOT of static torque there from the spec. We are all aware how a sensorless brushless motor does under very low RPM, static torque holding is more like a mission impossible.

So does that mean castle has their own sensored motors coming? Are we going to have some direct alternatives of Novak and Tekin?

I think the feedback pot acts like the hall sensor...

Agreed...my truggy may get some new love soon!

According to Hitec, they said that most servos rate their torque at stall, whereas these are not. So those 600 oz-in servos may in reality be closer in performance to these 486 oz-in BL servos.

And about the reduced current draw: I think it's nice because a lesser BEC can be used. The people with BEC issues on a MMPro using regular servos probably won't even notice a glitch with these since they don't draw nearly as much.

I already run my 7980s on 7.8v I believe and it makes a difference in both speed and power, I was hoping you could do the same to these. With a CCbec input voltage is requlated anyway. The only time power should vary is running a receiver pack which in my opinion should be a thing of the past.

BrianG if I had $150 just floating around I'd do some real world testing of the 7950 equivalent to the 7980, see how it compares. I can stall the later reasonably easily on the high grip rock I crawl on.

Kieren

This sounds promising for my 4s MMP setup.
I like the idea of it staying at a constant V

I just wish the cases were clear so I could see the little green monster motors inside doin their thing. Can't wait to see some prices and get some feedback.

It's actually a tiny little silver monster... :)

They do have hall sensors.

Damn, I need two of these now. The crawler guys will be thanking you Patrick!

These really are AMAZING servos.

In need of beta testers? My super crawler needs some muscle. My 7980s are a bit weak lol

Does this mean the little silver monsters are the begining of a cc sensored motor line? That would be awesome!

Might as well, right Pdelcast? :wink: :whistle:

Does anyone know if these are still coming out this month.

I hope so. Been holding off on new servos waiting for these.

I think this servo would be perfect for the truck I'm building. Hey what part of town are you in Texassp?

They were mentioned in Buggy & Truggy mag Vol. 3
I've been holding out for these too and wouldn't mind them getting here soon.

North in the Tomball/Spring area.

I'm just south of the woodlands.

Guys I just emailed Hitec about these servos and I quote "they will be released in September and the Hitec HSB 9380th will retail around $200". I'll take two please:)

Ouch. I was thinking seriously about selling my 7955 and 7965 for one these when they came out but if they are going to hit the market at that price I think ill wait. I could almost buy two more 7955's at that price now.

Well, that's retail price. Retail on the 7955 is $179.95. So I would expect the new servo to be around $20-$25 more than a 7955.

I'm guessing of course. But if the brushless servo retail is $199.95, and the 7955 retail is $179.95 -- well, you can see where I got that. :)

Well if that is MSRP then I might just have a go at these then. With a coupon on Tower they should be very affordable.

I'll be taking 4 of them, looking forward to these.
Like the poster before said, Tower's coupon will help.

Tower coupon??????

I will be buying several for sure.

Bad thing for you Patrick is that you will be selling less Ext BEC's in the future. :intello:

Of course with royalties off of the design of these who knows, it may just balance out huh........:rules: :yes: :lol:

It's September

I saw on another forum that there is another delay with production. One of the servos might ne released at the end of this month, and the other two next month.