Osama Bin Laden Dead
 

Pres Obama just announced special forces killed OBL in Pakistan, not in the remote mtns, but in a compound not far from the nation's capital. Special forces were launched today and OBL was killed after a firefight. His body is in US custody.

Obama knew about the compound since Aug, after a renewed push for his capture was launched, and waited to execute the mission until they had gathered enough intel to execute the mission successfully.

Many congrats to the baddasses who carried out the mission, and all of our military, intelligence services, and govt officials who made accomplished this mission, and thoughts go out to all the families across the world who has suffered due this murderer.

The report i read online said he was actually killed last week. Pretty cool he is finally dead. I dont really think his death will slow down on the terrorist attepmts since he has lots of minions that will still do it.

I can't be the only on thinking that this is a bad thing....:neutral:


What would happen if someone killed our leaders(weather you like them or not)? We would go to war with them...



*staying home with locked doors...

Not what I heard, but details are stechy at this point. Things will get clear soon enough.

Also reported it was two teams of Seals that went into the compound (supposed pix here) on the ground. No Seals were killed, but they killed two messengers, one of OBL's sons (die MF'er!) a woman and OBL. He was supposedly shot in the head. They recovered intel materials as well.

One heli was damaged in the firefight and had to be scuttled.

Reports on the compound it was built in 2005(!) and was built w/ high walls, no TV or phone, and all trash was burned inside, so no information flowed out. Seen as strange considering its location in an affluent neighborhood. It can be found on Google Maps also....

Sooooo glad that POS is dead,thank you to all the bad ass seals that accomplished this mission,I've ha the honor of knowing 2 seals and can tell you: they are grade A badasses and are amazing at there jobs.

Now onto my rant,WHY DID THIS HAPPEN THE DAY BEFORE I HAVE TO BUY AMMO? I garauntee all the .223,7.62,and 12ga will be gone if I don't get there early!
Plus the oil companies are going to use this as an excuse to raise gas prices again,and Obama will probably be completely ok with that...

Hard to see how OBL being martyred is a good thing, it will just renew the enthusiasm of the loyal throng

God will show you justice.
 

WASHINGTON – Osama bin Laden, the glowering mastermind behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks that murdered thousands of Americans, was killed in an operation led by the United States, President Barack Obama said Sunday.

"Justice has been done," said the president in a dramatic late-night announcement at the White House.

A small team of Americans killed bin Laden in a firefight Sunday at a compound in Pakistan, the president said, and took custody of his remains. Americaj officials said they were being handled in accordance with Islamic tradition.

A jubilant crowd gathered outside the White House as word spread of bin Laden's death after a global manhunt that lasted nearly a decade.

Former President George W. Bush, who was in office on the day of the attacks, issued a written statement hailing bin Laden's death as a momentous achievement. "The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done," he said.

Obama said he ordered the operation after receiving undisclosed intelligence information. Senior administration officials said the terrorist mastermind was found inside a custom-built compound with two security gates. They said it appeared to hvae been constructed to harbor one high-value target and that for undisclosed reasons, officials became clear the hideout was bin Laden's.

Officials also said they believe the death puts al-Qaida on a path of decline that will be difficult to reverse, but there was no word on the whereabouts of bin Laden's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahri.

The stunning end to the world's most widely-watched manhunt came just months before the 10th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Centers and Pentagon, orchestrated by bin Laden's al-Qaida organization, that killed more than 3,000 people.

Does not matter how.
 

It does not matter how, why, where or when. The fact that he has finally meat his maker is all that matters. He received his just reward for all of the people he murdered over his lifetime. This will certainly depress, anger, and enrage all of the terror networks around the world. I would believe that there will be followup attacks and threats on any USA supporters as well as the USA itself. OBL is now with his 100 virgins wherever that might be thought to be. I would rather have seen him thrown into an American prison somewhere bunked with a bunch of freaks who would make him feel the pain of the American people through the loving methods of such surroundings. In any case he is dead.

I'd be wary of revenge attacks now, they've already issued a travel alert for all US citizens to exercise additional caution. Celebrations are all well and good but it's when you let your guard down that you're most at risk.

There may be some short term retaliation, but I think this is a start of a new era. The war in Afghan & vs Al-Queso, and really the "post-9/11 era" could never be over until he was dead. I think we may see things change here now, and there were already suggestions the US was looking to declare victory and get out. We're at an expensive and useless stalemate anyway vs people who could never be a functioning country, much less free democracy in our lifetimes.

More so, the man was a force of evil and murder, the planet is better off without him. Besides 9/11, he has caused chaos, murder, war and the deaths of thousands across the globe. The devotion of his followers won't change, but their #'s are growing smaller. I think it will continue that way.

Thank god they got him before the 10th anv of 9/11. His hiding like a rat in a million dollar compound in a major Paki city the last few years kinda destroys the mythos of him as the austere hermit warrior wandering the lone mtns with his band of followers in in "armed resistence" seems rather shattered. Not as pathetic as Saddam's muddy mole hole, but not the epic ending that was expected.

Curious to how he could just be living in a major Paki city for years and be "unknown" to the Paki intelligence and army...

@bigsteel: I'm sure you'll be fine on ammo, and an American President has little power of world oil prices anyway. If anything blame the Chinese for buying a billion of everything, otoh they prob built your ammo too.. so... ;) The era of cheap oil was over years ago, just a world economic crisis put it on hold for a bit. Least its a sign things are getting better :neutral:

I kinda wish we could have captured him alive, death is too easy of a punishment for a POS like him. It would have been great if we could have tortured the hell out of him, but make sure he doesnt die just so we could torture him over and over again untill he finally dies of natural causes.

True enough, altho I'm really glad it wasn't by him blowing up in a missile strike, with only a few smoldering bits remaining, and scores going on to believe it was an American lie or conspiracy and he's still out there, in the mtns, plotting.

While no end could ever be painful enough for him, I'm glad he knew we were there in the end coming, he couldn't hide, and we were going to kill him. I'm glad he would feel the terror that his death was inescapable and imminent. No matter how committed a jihadi he was, he was still just a human and could not deny the fear. He had a gun and tried to fight back. He failed.
I'm confident he's not with any virgins. He's nowhere but in The Black, and billions are cheering.

Yeah, I always wished his head and gaping mouth could be made into a public urinal.

Tho I'm glad it was one of our elite baddasses got to pop him. What a war story he will have.

We could have never brought him back and tortured him like he deserved, at least without looking like savage and twisted fks in the end. In a perverse way that would have given him a win by giving proof to his lies about us.
A trial would be farce and a spectacle. Lifetime in prison or a lethal injections? God no.

This was the best and only way imo. Good old-fashioned shoot-out and the body of the badguy hung in the public square. Shame we won't be able to Mussolini it, but I'm satisfied...

not to sound like a sick-o, but i really hope pictures of him are released like the ones they showed of the Hussein brothers.

I've been on this planet for a few years now & if there's one thing I've learned; situations like this don't fade away peacefully, they usually erupt like a volcano. Wars aren't quick things...

This issue seems to enrage Americans so easily (not you personally) which makes it hard to discuss objectively, so I'm not looking to go down that road, just to make a point or two

The war in Iraq was promised to be a quick & easy victory - it wasn't. The Vietnam & Korean wars were meant to be quick & easy - they weren't. The war on terror - same. I admire anybody who is optimistic but I believe the weight of history indicates that both the 'war' is far from over & that power vacuums usually signify further unrest

Considering that a reasonable person might ask "is the trophy killing of OBL worth what may follow?"

Most people in this world aren't intelligent enough to think this rationally however, the sheep mentality will kick in (It's started with those incessant "USA USA" chants), Obama's popularity was falling, to the point that Donald Trump thought he'd have a crack, now Obama is the PM who captured Bin Laden, recession or not, the American public will absolutely love him now.

You are very right, wars and violence don't end things, and certainly not quickly. However I do think this was a pivotal point, and if the jihadi's were going to really do something, they would have already done it in the last decade. Not to mention the fact they are bumbling idiots. Let's face it, since 911, we've had a guy light his shoe on fire, and guy light his underwear and cock on fire, and a guy setting up a truck bomb w/ fairly inflammable propane cylinders, meanwhile leaving the keys to the getaway car locked inside. Not quite the deadly evil masterminds they are crackedup to be. Not to take them lightly, but not piss my pants about it either. Our guys are better and on vigil. They are doing a great job.

I think it is important to see this in context of the sweeping changes and calls for freedom in the ME. The situation is chaotic, unpredictable and a little unsettling, but the old order was unstable and poisonous anyway and there is a real possibility for change for everyone's benefit. The removal of this force of murder, hatred and evil can only be a long term good imo. The ME will take decades and longer to reform, and there are still many bigger roadblocks, but I sincerely wish the trend to improve.


@josh; I'm sure they will release them soon. Its the proof that will be demanded. Wonder what its going to take to clean him up a bit..but not too clean ya know.. ;) I'll be waiting too

A quick edit :lol:

Agreed

Let's hope you're right

War & time.
 

The significants of how long any of these wars has lasted when you look at the actual time line are mere blips on the radar screen for the existance of this planet. The religious wars of history used to last hundreds of years. The wars of today themselves were very short lived. The only part of any of these conflicts that lived on for many years is the security follow ups that eventually lead to peace due to changes in their own Gov's.

Look at the war with Japan in comparison. It was truly an awful encounter between Japan & the USA 60-70 years ago, and now we celebrate an alliance and friendship with Japan that is a very strong relationship. We went to the aid of South Korea to battle the North for many years, but when you look at this from a historical view it was a short lived war as well, that ended within a few years. The only real battle going on there now is the tirnatic control of their leader who keeps the entire nation of North Korea in the dark brainwashed to believe that everyone outside of the borders of the north are evil. At some point the people of North Korea will finally begin to see what is really going on and this too will end.

The war in Iraq was actually a very quick encounter that lasted a few years, but it will be the people of Iraq that will be able to open their eyes without fear and live a life of freedom. Libya is just another example of the same resolve. Eventually Gadaphi will die just like all the rest, and the people of that country will live in relief. War is ugly and always has been, but it is also necessary because of the beliefs of any nation, but more so the sad way that some leaders force their views and beliefs on its people. Morons like Gadaphi gather enough loyal followers who in most cases have very little to live for as human beings and would follow a dog if he could provide food and shelter for them. These idiots take over a region and call it their own, terrorizing the local inhabitants with fear and death. None of these fools last for very long in these times, and eventually the people will regain control.

I honestly believe that at some point in the history of the planet North Korea will resolve its own problems and open its borders just like everyone else has. Whether I will see this in my lifetime who knows, but eventually it will happen. Look at East & West Germany. Look at Russia. Look at North & South Vietnam. Some of us grew up watching these wars on the news with family members who died in each of these conflicts. Now we share vacations with these places. It has been one of the blessings in my life to be able to do things that we never believed would happen in our lifetimes. I have been to countries around the globe that used to be taboo just because of their local religions or Gov controls. I have walked on The Great Wall of China. I have walked the streets of Japan. I plan to visit Russia, Vietnam, and as many other countries as I am able during my life. Some of those places were enemies of our country for many years, but now are friends or allies of our nation. This too will be true of many other countries that are now not so fond of the USA.

smoke and mirrors!

I just heard that we were handling his body in accordance with Islamic tradition and already burried his body at sea. Why in the hell were we even concerned about how his body was treated?

I am going to sound like a complete sicko here but I don't really care. I would love to have gone at his skin with a vegetable peeler and watch the bastard squirm to his slow and agonizing death. Sh!t, he would do a lot worse to me if he ever had the chance and sure he has done a lot worse to others. I know two wrongs don't make it right but he got out way too easy. They said he copped a bullet in his head. I hope the bastard didn't off him self.

Not sure if it's worth it or not but I don't think that a scumbag like him deserves to die of old age. I for one am happy that he is dead. He took way too many lives just because they didn't believe what he did. There will be retaliations mark my word but there also would have been more acts of terror dished out by him if he had lived too. Problem is he is just one man (evil one at that) but the idea is what is going to be a lot harder to kill. Us against them. Christianity and Islam will never exist in peace together unless they recognize (don't have to believe) and respect each others religions. FAT chance of that happening any time soon or even in my lifetime. That is why it's either us or them and will stay like that till one side wipes the other out.

You know why mate? Because we are better then them. They would have strung our bodies up in the street to rot. At least we have the decency to respect their beliefs. Don't be angry about it.

Death is good.
 

OBL was a coward hiding behind the scenes sending young kids out to commit suicide by loading them up with explosives to kill anyone who happens to be near by. All of this while brainwashing them to believe that there was some kind of big party waiting for them on the other side. What a crock of crapp that is. He was a piece of crapp who deserved to die any way possible just to get him off this planet. Over the next day or so he will end up where he belongs. A piece of shark $hiate floating to the bottom of the Ocean. A fine way to see him off to his virgin party.

I wonder if their "bible" (or whatever it is called) specifies female virgins? It would be fitting if he was met with 100 eager, large, and well-endowed male virgins... and him on the receiving end!

Can't do that; it's "inhumane". All the bible-thumpers and bleeding heart liberals would never let that happen. Personally, I agree; let the punishment fit the crime; an eye for an eye if you will.

I would have let him burn to death, as many of the people in the WTC did...

This was done to not piss off the rest of the Islamic world and to hopefully minimize any retaliatory strikes and what not.

Burying him out at sea was to prevent anyone from creating a shrine for him (if they somehow supported him).

This thread is worthless without pics. WTF TMZ!

In many respects OBL was given what he wanted; he was supposed to die mid-Jihad, from an infidel bullet. He probably wished & hoped to be martyred...he will arguably be more powerful now

In many respects taking him through a legal process would have taken years but it would have also hobbled his persona & it would have deprived him of the glory he was given

The reports he was using human shields makes no sense in the context of his belief system & it really does look more & more like a grubby PR stunt by Obama to remain in office for another term. Obama, given his background would understand only to well that justice hasn't been served - but Obama has been!

I'm sorry, but I think this is a terrible misreading of American politics.

As far as a trial is concerned, there has been quite a bit of debate what to do here with all these captured people we have rotting in Gitmo. Obama had wanted to bring them back for trials and prison and shut Gitmo down. That didn't happen after lots of push back, as well as a lot of fear from people in cities hosting the trials that they would be terrorist targets. That was more 2-bit detainees like drivers and messengers, let alone the fear holding Bin Laden would inspire. We already got to watch the circus Saddam's trial and exectution was, and that was Iraq where they don't have endless appeal processes that go on for 20 yrs.

So what else? Hold some mock military trial in a secret location? Don't see how much more credible that was.
Not to mention, the considerable effort by his critics to paint Obama as weak and sympathizing to terrorists (the whole "read them their [arrest] rights while on the battlefield" bit.) Why take all this risk in capture then to incite a circus @ home?

On that theme, that this was a PR stunt just meant to boost poll #'s... there is a line between cynicism and absurdity, and this goes right over. Why now, why not in Oct right before his party got killed in the polls and lost considerable control in the Legislature and changed the polit. agenda going on? Why not wait closer to the Pres elections in 2012? This will be an old story by then, and no canidates have even officially declared.

Despite what sense you may get listening to the noise on the internet made form a very vocal minority, Obama still has considerable support @ home, despite all the messes we've been thru. All the potential canidates from the opposition are weak to the point of laughter, and have not been able to develop a coherent criticism of him other than to resort to half-baked conspiracy theories that he's some anti-white, kooky-Christian black supremecist, secret muslim facist, communist, socialist from Kendonesia rasied in madrassas in Indonesia steeped in anti-western colonial fervor of the Mau Mau Revolution on a secret mission hatched 50 years ago to usher in a Musilm Caliphate across Europe and America so he could have tea with terrorists.
IOW, one of these nutcases actually has to beat him.

Meanwhile, the political capital the opposition has gained in the last election is being spent passing insanely unpopular budget proposals (and little else) based on fantasy numbers and unrealistic assumptions that would do little to actually reduce our immense budget decifits or motivate job creation, but would strip the future* elderly of medical care (*those 55 and under) by privatising one of the most popular govt programs to give more tax cuts to the already unpopular wealthy. The opposition ran & won in 2010 slamming Obama for tampering and cutting Medicare, and the elderly are the most active voters...

IE... he doesn't need this.
However, most of the political risk was to the downside. Members of the President's democratic party have been succesfully blasted since 1980 and Jimmy Carter (Dem) for being being weak on Defense after the failed Iranian Hostage Rescue in 1979. Most Dems since have had to over-compensate on Defense to counter, else go down in flaming electoral defeat. (See Dukakis in '88, and Kerry in '04, and to an extent Gore in '00. (all 3 served in the military too fyi) ) Particular aggressive attempts have been made to compare Obama to Carter. Had this mission got fraked up, in a million ways it could have, Obama would have solidified this narritive and put his re-election in serious doubt, as well as burdened every other Democrat with this failure for several more decades to come.

Say what you will about the silly U-S-A chants and the wisdom of "martyring" of Osama (like he wasn't already), but the arguement it was a clever short-term popularity stunt can't be made by serious people.

Yeah, I should know politicians would never do anything within their means to grab votes or risk political suicide. Guess I'm not a serious person - oh well back to absurdity I go

OBL was still handed his best case outcome on a platter, without any serious attempt to follow international law. U-S-A! U-S-A!

Did anybody catch the end of Donald Trump's Celeb Apprentice? I didn't because of late breaking news(10 minutes before the top of the hour) had to break in and basically tell me(forty minutes later) that x y z happened! But they are covering up p d q, so they can't allow you to see a b c. Come on Nene was making a move on Star. Who got fired? Does BO feel that threatened by D-bag Trump to intentionally cut off his show?

I just saw an ad for 60 minutes. It will be Barrack's only interview telling us all about his assault. What about the rising gas prices, Lybia or Japan?

Today the assault story has changed again. Armed turned into unarmed, double tap to the head turned into one to the chest one to the head, human wife shield was also bs. (All were 1st candy coated to betray it as a quick and and even more justified assignation IMO)

Could they just get the story right the first time, If we are to buy into all of it without any evidence. Well besides the story(with pics) of a stealth heli that face planted. Okay don't show us a dead UBL and incite anybody, how about a UBL scared and crapping his pants in the cross hairs of a night vision scope?

Circus
 

Yea the whole thing is a huge media circus filled with guesstimations and assumptions even though the entire Whitehouse staff watched it on video. Why not just release the video and let the people decide for themselves what happened. Even showing the pics will shut up a lot of the people.

The other night was the first part of this Apprentice series that we have been able to watch. Nene is a real biatch and treated Star like a dog in front of everyone. The boardroom meeting was just another circus and Nene wouldn't shut her mouth through 90% of the meeting. In the end Hope the Playboy bunny was sent packing for hiding under the radar through most of her apperances on these projects. Plus they brought back Latoya Jackson who is now on the mens team. The next show is going to be about how Nene and Star fight it out.

In Japan they have now gotten the reactors cool enough to get back into the reactor building. The plan now is to rebuild the regular cooling system so they can get the reactor under total control once again. Once this is done they will remove the fuel rods one by one until the reactor is empty. Then a toatal clean up can take place and final shut down of the plant can take place.

The death toll in Japan is over 25K and 11K are still missing.

I'm sorry man, I'm not trying to insult you, and I generally regard you as very reasonable, well-read and thoughtful person. I usually enjoy and agree with many of your opinions on various topics that have come up through the years.
I will also say I don't mean those comments specificly aimed at you, but as a reaction to some of the opinions, as well as some nonsense from political opponents, that have gone on around after the announcement. Stupid stuff like "we killed bin Laden 10 yrs ago, and have kept him frozen until now to boost poll #'s" or "of course Obama could find Osama, he just looked his buddy up in his Muslim Terrorist phonebook."

Was it OBL's best case scenario? Maybe. Was it ours too? Probably.

Who comes out better on top? We've destroyed the figuritive, spiritual and operational head of Al Queso, as well as seized a gold mine of intellegence info on the remaining members, their methods and funders. We've put fear into them. No matter how well they hide, we will eventually find and kill them. We've crippled them at a time of waning influence and relevence. They have to communicate and organize if they want to try and recover, but by doing so they expose themselves to us at their peril.

What have they won? A martyr? Yeah. Question is how much will it matter? Who knows for sure, but I'm thinking not much. Have we strained relations w/ Pakistan? Definately. Other unforseen consequences? Surely, as always.

International Law? Nobody here gives a fk. I was living in NY (upstate, not in the city tho) at the time, and I could see the smoke from the burning towers from home. For months I drove around the neighborhoods, going to work, around all the fire companies with memorials out front from members lost on 9/11. Terrible. I have cousins who got sent to Iraq on the lie it was for 9/11, one to come home nearly killed, and w/ permanant brain damage from resulting injuries and 6 wk coma. Went to visit him in the big army hospital in DC, and saw all the kids with missing arms, legs or worse there. I know many coworkers who have sons or brother's or friends with similar stories.
Honestly, I couldn't care if they shot him while they found him in the bathroom beating off to goat pr0n. Its a mercy we didn't shoot all his effing wives and kids in head.

The whole orientation of the country changed that day, and little for the better. All due to that fcker and his psychotic vision for the world. We did a lot of stupid things as well, don't get me wrong, but thousands have died in many countries all over the world due to him, and I'm overjoyed we put a hole into his head. I don't really care they messed up some of the details, or "needed improvement on their messenging," or maybe had some fish stories going on. We won't likely to know all the facts for some time. Only one real fact matters: Bin Laden is dead, not even Al Queso denies it, and this gives us the opportunity to close an ugly chapter in American history.
Consequences and reactions will continue to play out, but I can't see how this could possibly be the game changer Al Queso wanted, and will motivate them to do something horrible they hadn't already been planning to do.


Lastly, as far as PR stunts: undoubtedly all pols try and use events and narratives to their favor. I'm under no illusions Obama is not a politician. However, the timeline for this to be a pure PR stunt, when the president has lost some % amidst some ugly budget/deficit fights and rising gasoline costs, pulls out the Bin Laden trump card he's been holding onto to get a temporary boost in poll numbers to defend against a field of still undeclared presidential opponents (let alone a clear nominee) for an election still over a year and a half away, just doesn't make sense.

Now, if Obama was flying around, repelling out of helicopters into press events dressed in night vision goggles and body armor-stuffed spandex suits in front of giant, 2-story banners that read "UP YOURS, BABY!", then I would be quick to join the criticism.

IOW, like former President Jackass with his giant codpiece, congratulating himself for invading the wrong fking country after he "quit" looking for bin Laden, and not actually even "winning" the war he started for several more years, thousands of lives, and billions/trillions of $. Oops.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...complished.jpg

Lastly.. Yeah, our spontanteous mob celebrations could use some work in the creativity dept. Frankly I'm impressed no one overturned and set fire to police cars. The "Nah Nah Nah Nah, Hey hey hey, goooooooddbyyeeeeeee!!" chants were cringe-worthy. Most of our repertoire comes from sporting events, not so much the "hey we just assasinated [some asshole]!" variety, so pardon some of the inappropriateness.

We didn't burn anyone's flag, we didn't hit any pictures or statues with shoes or some other dumb stuff. We didn't have a giant riot ala Europe and burn half our town down, or do whatever Aussies would do, provided they ever actually ever won at a sport in which anyone else ever plays. ;) :na:

peace

We drink to celebrate winning sporting contests that matter...eg; not a domestic World Series where we play ourselves :lol:

Per capita we're THE sporting nation

Personally
 

Personally I felt that all of the public celebrating being shown on the international news was a little over the top, but we all know that the AP enjoy stiring the pot no matter what the story pertains to. I am sure that most of the world are pleased to be rid of such a horrible person on this planet, but celebrating, chanting, singing songs, and acting like a bunch of football hooligans over anyones death is in poor taste for a modern day civilization. The monster is dead. Great, now lets all move on with our lives and hope that things will get better where terrorizm is concerned. I am proud to be an American, and I wish that everyone would simply represent thier country with respect and dignity. All any of it reminded me of was that scene from the Wizard of Oz when everyone began singing the wicked witch is dead. Pretty silly don't you think?

Hey, Canada has some teams in there. Granted they are never any good, but still. And besides, we just hire all the best players from all over the world, so that kinda counts... Best of both worlds, all the top world players in a series where America always wins. U S A! U S A! U S A!

Now those other "world" sports, like soccer (*ahem* football...,) tennis, cricket, rugby, road races where you turn L and R... those are the homosexual sports, so we don't care if we don't win those, because we're not gay.. so stop looking at us like that or we'll kick your ass!

I knew this was coming, but still got a good laugh!!!

In best announcer voice "And nw Dale Jarret makes his 400th left turn, the crowd goes wild, and here is the 401st left turn, and he is getting ready for the 402nd left turn, wow, now he is going into the 403rd left turn..."

How anyone can get riled up watch cars turn left is beyond me. Yeah they may be going faster than 180mph, but I have done that on regular roads and it is not really very impressive. And before you go dissing soccer keep in mind more people follow that sport than any other. Tennis can be boring, but there are alot of hot eastern bloc chicks playing, so unless you are a homo you should be able to enjoy some of it (quit looking at agassis' butt dude)

I was not impacted much by the world trade center diasaster, but I understand that alot of people were. And if they want to celebrate OBL death then I am 100% behind them. Poor taste, really? Have you been to america recently, we are the originators of poor taste!!! Just trun on the tv, every other show is some sort of reality debacle that runs on poor taste and stupidity. Ignorance is the fuel that fires this country, sad to say. Plus i could care less what the french (or anyone else) thinks about the US. If it was not for the US they would be speaking German.

It's "couldn't". I couldn't care less. Saying you could implies you care some, and there is a degree to which even less caring is possible.

Saying you couldn't communicates that you don't care at all and there is no way possible you have the ability to care less about the situation.

Learn to English, rather than speaking American:intello:

Not to criticize you but, you did give the pimp a hard time.....:whistle:

you need to explain the learn to English concept to us.:neutral:

Haha, don't take any of my posts too seriously. I certainly don't. I like all those sports actually (even if they are un-American and therefore of questionable masculinity.) Some of the best sporting times were last year during the WC, where at work they would play the matches on all the TVs in the cafeteria and people from all over different parts of the business came down to watch. USA v Eng was great, but USA v Slovenia had about 300+ going nuts and screaming.

Not only that, then you had great matches to watch at home, and if you watched Univision pre-game shows, you get to watch all the bikini girls face off in the studio. Triple bonus if its BRA v ARG & its the Brazilian chicks vs the Argentinian chicks in studio. No idea what they are saying, but it really doesn't matter. :D
Not only that, the game is only 90 mins long, non-stop action, no f'ing Cialis commercials, then its over and I can go. I'm busy and got sh1t to do. Don't have 20 mins to sit and watch Tiger line up one fraking putt.
Could do w/o all falling down and crying like babies trying to draw a card tho (looking at you Italy...)

As far as the other stuff goes, the fact that you can't get on a plane w/o taking off half your clothes, and then get an anal probe by TSA is reason enough to shoot some terrorists. ;) If they hired the Brazillian World Cup Bikini Team girls, maybe it'd be a different story. Sadly, most are sweaty old men or dudes who look like they murder prostitutes on their lunch hour.
Does explain why Harold has so many frequent flyer miles tho..