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brainanator 05.26.2011 01:50 PM

JANG at URC is testing a Maxamps Pack
 
http://www.ultimaterc.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=124746

I don't expect this to take any traffic away from mike's site. I just figured you guys would want to know that someone out there is doing a review/test of Maxamps, I know how much everyone around here loves the place :whistle:

If you need to sign up for an account to see the thread let me know and I'll post his discharge graph...

Metallover 05.26.2011 03:23 PM

You've gotta log in- I'll post it up for ya brainanator

Credit goes to theJANG at URC

Quote:

Here's a 30A discharge graph showing a couple cycles of the $130 MaxAmps 6500mah True 150C 7.4V LiPo versus a $35 Gens Ace 5000mah 40C, a $29 Sky LiPo 40C pack, and a lower-rated Turnigy.

Between the two cycles, this MaxAmps 6500mah pack, discharged to 3.0V/cell, took less than 4900mah to fully recharge. After the second discharge, it took 4848mah.
http://i345.photobucket.com/albums/p...-discharge.png

E-Revonut 05.26.2011 03:57 PM

Well that's not much of a graph since it doesn't show amp draw. Not helping MA though since their packs are 1500mah higher capacity and they all die off within about 20 sec of each other.

BrianG 05.26.2011 04:03 PM

It's a 30A draw...

brainanator 05.26.2011 04:20 PM

Thanks metallover for posting the graph :) And yeah, only a 30A constant drain. Battery doesn't even take 5Ah...

Bondonutz 05.26.2011 04:24 PM

Good to see some graphs and thanks to Jang for the tests and ML for posting it.

The results don't really surprise anyone here do they, curious where that extra 1500mah went to tho ?

josh9mille 05.26.2011 05:42 PM

wow, that is really really really bad!

Semi Pro 05.26.2011 10:49 PM

the flames on the packs take up 1500mah

its likely that the cells in the pack the sold him are not the 6500mah cell, i have receved so that were not what they claimed they were in the past..............that was before i learned my lesson

the joke of the day is that the cheap gen ace packs out performed the ma pack

sikeston34m 05.26.2011 11:39 PM

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...ht=150c&page=9

This is the graph that Brandon "the salesman" posted.

Compare the two.

They are not the same cell IMO.

The cells inside the Pack that Maxamps tested are NOT the same cells inside the packs that Maxamps are selling.

Either way, they are Pitiful for the Price.

josh9mille 05.27.2011 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sikeston34m (Post 407374)
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...ht=150c&page=9

This is the graph that Brandon "the salesman" posted.

Compare the two.

They are not the same cell IMO.

The cells inside the Pack that Maxamps tested are NOT the same cells inside the packs that Maxamps are selling.

Either way, they are Pitiful for the Price.

I think you linked to the wrong page

sikeston34m 05.27.2011 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josh9mille (Post 407375)
I think you linked to the wrong page

It's the correct page.

scroll down to post #130

suicideneil 05.27.2011 10:46 AM

Surprised, I am not..

Semi Pro 05.27.2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sikeston34m (Post 407374)
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...ht=150c&page=9

This is the graph that Brandon "the salesman" posted.

Compare the two.

They are not the same cell IMO.

The cells inside the Pack that Maxamps tested are NOT the same cells inside the packs that Maxamps are selling.

Either way, they are Pitiful for the Price.

thats what we come to expect from ma

brainanator 05.27.2011 10:02 PM

I guess on a semi-related note: a battery I won from them last september is speced to 5250mAh, and it only takes about 4800mAh.

Bondonutz 05.27.2011 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brainanator (Post 407403)
I guess on a semi-related note: a battery I won from them last september is speced to 5250mAh, and it only takes about 4800mAh.

MA needs to buy HobbyPartz cells and reshrink them with Flames.

I have 4-40C 5000mah 2s Sky hardcases that all take 5300+ mah from 3.1 LVC

josh9mille 05.28.2011 12:11 PM

I just got done scan-reading the entire thread up to page 16. Those guys sure are skeptical of the way he did the test and are all saying he should have done it differently. And whoever mycrors4 is seems to be a MA fanboy and does not know what he is talking about. He says its no big deal if a pack puffs up and that he has never heard of a MA pack failure. He must be in his own little world or something.

ta_man 05.29.2011 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josh9mille (Post 407415)
I just got done scan-reading the entire thread up to page 16. Those guys sure are skeptical of the way he did the test and are all saying he should have done it differently. And whoever mycrors4 is seems to be a MA fanboy and does not know what he is talking about. He says its no big deal if a pack puffs up and that he has never heard of a MA pack failure. He must be in his own little world or something.

To some extent I believe the skepticisim is justified. He said it was a constant 30 amp discharge then later went on to say he used a string of light bulbs as the discharge load. That will not result in a constant load as the voltage decreases.

Not to say the results would be different with a true constant 30 amp load, but when your technique is off, it can call into question other aspects of the test.

One would figure with all the stuff he does, he would have had a discharger capable of constant current discharge (like a Turbo 35 or a Tekin DIS-350).

Arct1k 05.29.2011 10:11 AM

Provided he used the same setupfor all the tests I don't really care.

I think the chart speaks for itself.

rootar 05.29.2011 12:22 PM

we all know maxamps packs are the absolute worst batteries made so why are yall surprised that the POS couldnt even hold its own in a 30A dicharge? If jang tested it with something more accurate the results will only get worse for MA.

The Dude 05.29.2011 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rootar (Post 407460)
we all know maxamps packs are the absolute worst batteries made so why are yall surprised that the POS couldnt even hold its own in a 30A dicharge? If jang tested it with something more accurate the results will only get worse for MA.

+1 .... this not surprised me.... :neutral:

brainanator 05.29.2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rootar (Post 407460)
we all know maxamps packs are the absolute worst batteries made so why are yall surprised that the POS couldnt even hold its own in a 30A dicharge? If jang tested it with something more accurate the results will only get worse for MA.

amen brother!

lutach 05.29.2011 09:07 PM

MA Brandon thought the folks at the aircraft section of the link bellow was stupid or something, because he had the guts to try and promote more BS, but this was with their so claimed True 100C car pack.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1434306

I really hope someone takes MA to court before they make lipos illegal due to absurd ad dangerous claims. Specially when it seems the Government is trying to stick their hands into everything. I thought false advertising was illegal.

Jrgunn5150 09.10.2011 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 407454)
Provided he used the same setupfor all the tests I don't really care.

I think the chart speaks for itself.

I agree, I'm no electrical genius, but as long as the test stays the same, how are the result's questionable?

Tat2 10.08.2011 02:08 PM

What? MaxAmps packs don't live up to the claims made by the company? :sarcastic:
I'm... not at all surprised.

fastbaja5b 10.09.2011 09:50 PM

I hooked up a Maxamps "True 150C" pack to my Flux XS over the weekend, did 3 laps of a little circuit we made with that, a Zippy 5000mah 30C and a Turnigy Nanotech 6000 65/130C

On a fresh charge, the Maxamps pack was the only one to go under 6v pack voltage from a standing start (max amp load of 140 amps)

so.. 150C? B...S! Just glad it was my mates pack and not mine!


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