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Bondo's 6X6 Scale/Crawler recovery truck
Here's what I'm starting with, these are pictures the guy sent prior to making our deal. This thing had some serious issues when it finially showed up considering I was told other wise.
This is a RC4WD "Beast" 6x6 http://store.rc4wd.com/The-Beast-Bla...le_p_1175.html During inspection I found; 5 broken off 2mm screws between 2 axle cases and over a dozen missing screws. The Mann body was broken in several places and all that was included was the floor pan and exterior shell, not sure if anything should have ben included such as door handles and hinges etc ? The servo mount was broken from crashing into something but it's reusable if I place a thin piece of alum over it and screw it into the Delrin. Also one of the front carriers is hogged out top and bottom from the missing kingpin bushings and someone just put a screw in and it worn the hole oval, real brainiac. And last but not least, the frame was bent in 4 places, no clue what they were doing with it ? http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...307_124336.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...307_124453.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...07_1249542.jpg Once I received I was able to get a decent pic http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...neakers001.jpg |
I removed all the running gear and electronics and set them aside to get the new tires mounted up to make some room on the bench plus to see what needs to be done with the dual axles to make room for the taller tires.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...neakers003.jpg Wow, what a PITA these rims are but they look super dope http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...neakers005.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...neakers006.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...neakers007.jpg |
Next I tore down the 2spd tranny and found the idler gear pretty worn but with plenty left on it to last a while yet. I checked all bearings and bushings, cleaned everything and reapplied Mobil-1 Red Synthetic grease.
I then moved onto the original steering axle and drilled and tapped the broken 2mm screws and did a thorough cleaning and again used the Syn grease. http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ontaxle011.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ontaxle012.jpg I bought 2 more steering axles from Rock @ RC4WD and tore them down as well and applied Syn grease during re-assembly. http://store.rc4wd.com/Blackwell-X1-...le-_p_449.html |
Heres a good pic of the body, for those whom aren't fimiliar with these kind of 1:1 truck I linked some You Tube videos of these beasts having fun. I'm going to cut this body up a little bit to make if a bit different than the norm.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...mockup1006.jpg This driver and truck has the main inspiration of my build. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaHtccTJQCM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuQyU...eature=related Some others http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3tKIu7g8qU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vWwrpnMhXU&NR=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bJm9...eature=related |
The running gear it showed up with is the stock 2 spd tranny, no shift servo, stock Outcry ESc with BEC brushed motor only but 4s capable. The steering servo was a nice bonus, brand new JR 8911HV, sweet. Motor is a Novak 55T, looks fairly new.
Electronic's Going in; Castle Mamba Pro ESC Castle BEC Pro Tekin T8 1400kv 3s 1st & 2nd steering axles JR-8711 servos, 403oz @ 6v 3rd steering axle JR 8911HV 470oz @ 7.4 Trans shifting servo JR 650 Servo Winch will be bed mounted w/a boom. LED's ?? |
The Radio for the project
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Made a new rear plate, it's a bit bigger than the stock one which was steel and weighs about the same even tho theres a lot more material. I Incorporated a rear bumper and loops for the tow hooks.
Rear bumper braces and loops for the rear pull rings/shackles. http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...bumper2001.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...bumper2002.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...bumper2003.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...bumper2004.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...bumper3005.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...bumper3008.jpg This is all what I'm using to do the brazing/soldering http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...bumper2005.jpg Here is is painted with "Hammer Paint" spray bomb http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...bumper3007.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...mper3008-1.jpg |
Looking good Jeff.
I had one of those chassis, a while back. Mine had lowly tlt axles and ran a cut down pede tranny with an axi 2217 (1100kv, and about 1" across, tiny motor) on 3s with a mm. It would almost crawl vertical. Incredible. And I only ran 1.9s. I cannot imagine how your will run with all that power... |
So cool! Would love to see one of these full scale ones in person, so much power! =D
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I tried a 55T brushed, 1400kv Outrunner, 1900kv sensored 540 and the power was inadequate. Tho it moved nicely climbing was under powered badly, I also tried a Tekin 550 SC4X 3300kv but it was waaaay to fast. The 1400kv T8 on 3s should prove to be very ballsy and run efficiently. Quote:
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bad ass in all aspects, the truck, you brazing that up, super cool my man
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Please bare in mind most of what I'll be posting is weeks old that I'm copy/pasting from my Losi Forum I mod at. When I get around to getting to the more recent stuff I'll be sure to let you know when I post it.
I tried the new sheet metal break from Habor Freight and Tool and the thing works excellent, several vise grips are needed to hold the material steady in the tool but other than that well worth the price paid ! I made 2 electronics trays today and once the lenth is determined I will cut off the excess. Some make think I'm crazy but I decided to use Brass rather than aluminum and I'll explain why. Once the aluminum is bent 90* it cantr be bent back with breaking at the bend. Also I can solder braces, brackets, cab mounts etc etc right to these plates. The brass is a tick heavier than the aluminum but way lighter than the factory steel plates. http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...cstrays003.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...cstrays005.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...cstrays007.jpg This entire sheet of brass is several grams lighter than this steel plate at 1/3 it's size. http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...cstrays006.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...cstrays004.jpg |
I had to extend the drive shaft between the #1-#2 axle, I used a 1-1/4" piece of solid Stainless Steel rod.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...6/P1015822.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...6/P1015830.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...6/P1015851.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...6/P1015827.jpg The springs on these shocks are really feking stiff, In this flex shot the spring will not fully compress. Maybe once the installed body, bed, battery and the rest of the electronics they'll be fine ? http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...6/P1015825.jpg |
The scale winch I bought is really cool but under powered for such a huge machine so I got brave with a brand new Hitec HS7950TH servo and used the scale winch controller to make a bad assed winch with. The servo has 402oz @ 6v so I'm confident it can hack the pig I'm building ?
Now to hit the craft store and score a "bobbin" for a winch reel. http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...vowinch008.jpg |
I sat down to the bench with a fresh case of Michelobe Ultra in the fridge and got to work today, I made a spool for my winch thats pretty close to scale for this truck. I'm also going to make a utility box for the servo to reside in to keep it hiddem that will mount on the bed in the same location much as a Slideback tow truck but I'm going to build a boom yet.
Now that this is done for now I'm going to install the electronics to see if I can make this beast come alive today for some tests ?? I still have plenty of time and beer left for the afternoon. http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ndvideo002.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ndvideo004.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ndvideo005.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ndvideo006.jpg You Tube video, and yes it has variable speed ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgP-5...1&feature=plcp . |
I have it thrown together so I can center and align everything, Once the body is installed everything on the chassis will be stuffed inside.
The motor has the perfect speeds in Low & High just hope it can hack the weight, she tips the scales at 10.7lbs as is. A good run will gimme an idea whats up. http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ogether001.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ogether006.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ogether005.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ogether004.jpg |
Took a while to get the steering perfectly centered x3, can still use some fine tuning but was anxious to run. I ran nearly a whole 5000mah 2s pack just hacking around and I'v def decided to step up the power and voltage. I ordered the Tekin 4 pole 1400kv 1/8 scale buggy motor and will prob run it on 3s for the power and efficentcy. If a tire or two gets kinda wedged theres no way 2s is gonna get this pig out of trouble especially if trying to help other's out of a jam.
Steering worked typical for the lenth of the thing but that 3rd axle really brought the thing to life, has fantastically small truning radius. Very breif video, sorry for shaky and spotty focus. Was trying to hold the DX7 TX and the camera while driving. The Beast Mann/Hybrid 6X6 Steering Test - YouTube . |
I managed to disassemble the Mann body today, wasn't that hard since the joker that put it together did a piss poor job. The Hot knife greatly simplified the job, best 10.00 I spent in a a loooong time.
I've already removed a lot of material from the floor pan so it pretty much can be resting on the chassis plate to get the COG low as possible. http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ssembly002.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ssembly005.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ssembly003.jpg |
I've ben tinkering with the floor pan and pretty much rebuilt the entire thing. I added a 7"x3.5"x3/16" sheet of Kydex and extended the fenders wells where needed, it's solid as a rock now.
Working with the plastic is entirely new to me and I must say I enjoy it very much, On a whim I made the needed door hinges and found the plastic is really nice to work with even making small pieces. I'm reassembling the cab so it sit's roughly 15mm lower onto the cab floor to help lower COG. http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...REBUILD003.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...REBUILD002.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...REBUILD004.jpg |
This was Memorial Weekend
Many many Beers have have ben sacrificed for the greater good of the RC Gods this weekend and a glorious thing it has ben, They all gave their little aluminum lives bravely for the sake of scale building. They will not be forgotten even tho they passed quickly into the porcelain throne and beyond. Urp ! The drivers compartment is now 100% complete and sealed to not allow dust or water to enter. After building my Wraith and spending many hours on the interior and completely trashing it the first run out I hoping with some extra work this interior will always be clean ? To bad I forgot to clean the windows befor I glued the front panel on, finger print smudges all over. DOH. I still have a loooong road ahead to complete the back half of the cab, I need to build a side wall, back panel and roof and make it all hinge for easy excess of electronics and battery swaps. All the windows were scratch made and glued in with CA with a fine tipped screw driver, this took hours and chipped away at my patience but the result was what I wanted. I could have spent several more hours going crazy making gauges, instrument clusters etc etc but wanted to keep it somewhat simple. I only wished I had a couple futuristic weapons to put in the rifle rack rather than blunt skull primitive weapons. The action figures Beldar and Primat are from the late 80's and did not articulate at all except at the shoulders and hips. I got creative with the hot knife and thick CA and the results are satisfactory. I even gave them a fresh coat of paint because they were pretty faded. The beginning of the exterior roll cage can be seen in a couple of the pictures, I found the plastic bends nicely with a little heat of the micro torch. The interior color will be the same for the exterior, It's a tan with a slight green tint I found by Testors at the LHS. I have another color slightly more green I will make splotches on and around the exterior for the camo pattern. The roll cage and window trim will all be painted with flat black so it should have nice contrast. Still undecided on a zebra pattern ? On to the pics, enjoy. http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...omplete003.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...omplete002.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...omplete005.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...omplete006.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...omplete007.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...omplete009.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...omplete004.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...omplete016.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...omplete013.jpg |
This is last week
More progress ! I killed a case of Michelobe Ultra yesterday while working on this pig, the creative juices were flowing like the beer. http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...Fbumper002.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...Fbumper003.jpg This is where the body was notched for spare tire, decided differently :rolleyes: http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...Fbumper004.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...Fbumper006.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...Fbumper011.jpg Front bumper/push bar/light mount/skid plate is done as well http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...Fbumper010.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...Fbumper009.jpg |
This is now current
A little more done today, I finished the skid plate shoreing it up with a couple braces and added more to the front grill and built the exo-roll cage. I had planned on making the front assembly and exo-cage from brass ultimately decided on the much lighter plastic, this stuff is really nice to work with as well. I have some finish work to do on the cage and maybe add a couple small things but I'm getting really close to getting it painted and I'm second guessing myself on the color/pattern again :???::???::???: http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ollcage004.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ollcage001.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ollcage002.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ollcage003.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ollcage006.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...ollcage005.jpg |
I've spent hours watching those crazy bastards spool up those diesels and drop the clutch on those trials trucks. Do you think they cost much more than a well built r/c?:lol:
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Big thanks Harold, glad you appreciate those big assed trucks like myself !
I added a few things prior to painting, I made a windshield visor and beefed up the brush guard a little as well as door hinges and door handles. I also added a extention to cover the #2 servo. http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...tedbody001.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...tedbody002.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...tedbody003.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...tedbody004.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...tedbody005.jpg |
Very cool! nice paint job too!
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Hey Sikes,
The round servo horn came with a Hitec 7990 Robot servo. I removed the servo circut board and the end stop from the main gear and wired up the winch control from the RC4WD scale winch. Thanks for looking ! |
How the heck did I miss this! looks sweeeeeet Jeff, well done!
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The bed rails were completed today, the bed's deck will be roughly 15"X9.25" and I'm probably going to make it out of Birch plywood in 1/4" I think. This wood is very hard and should hold up nicely for it's intent.
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Decided to take a break from the bed floor after applying some Ebony stain, gotta let it dry anyway for at least 24hrs.
Ben tinkering with the servo winch, I made a spool support with a bearing. I have to complete the winch housing and spool cover yet just thought I'd post this BC I was pretty proud of my Fat Kid Engineering VIDEO; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVo3PpJ8ZuE http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1.../winch1004.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1.../winch1002.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1.../winch1003.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1.../winch1008.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1.../winch1007.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1.../winch1006.jpg |
The winch box is done and installed to the bed floor. Onto the next step which will prob be the Boom.
Looking for opinions; Should I leave the winch box and boom to tarnish naturally or spray is with Black Hammer Paint from the Spray bomb ? http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...inchbox001.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...inchbox003.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...inchbox004.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...inchbox006.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...inchbox008.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...inchbox009.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...inchbox011.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...inchbox014.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...inchbox015.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...inchbox017.jpg |
Just got done cleaning the winch box, Boom and base to prep for paint.
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Nice touch with the rifles in the back. The coneheads just don't do for me though:lol:
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This build is getting better and better! Love the gun rack!
I would rip the birch into 3/4"-1" strips to make the bed look more like a deck, but that's just me. In real life you'd never find a sheet of wood that size. Scale it up dude!:yes: |
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Hmmm...slutty teen anime... big ass truck... guns... *sigh*:love:
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Made emblems today
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...chassis004.jpg NOTHING is bolted down, I just set the cab and ben on the chassis to see what it looks like and snap a few pics for my thread. Still have lots of wiring to do and TX programming http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...chassis017.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...chassis018.jpg http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...chassis019.jpg |
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