Truggy, or Monster truck?
 

Hey guys, selling my e-maxx for a truggy has been on my mind for a long time.

Why? From my understanding, truggies have much more durable drive trains, witch is the thing I always break. I've blown several diffs, sliders, and output gears and the only thing outside of the drivetrain i've broke in the past 3 years was an RPM arm and the stock bumper. I like the ground clearance but my maxx is just extremely heavy, wheelies none stop (dont get me wrong, I like wheelies, but it's a little overkill), and the drive train won't let me throw what I could at it.

I have an old style e-maxx with FLM chassis, towers, and bulks, RPM arms, axle carries, and skids, 3.3 spec drive train, MMM2 2200kv system and a custom wheelie bar since I couldn't buy one that could take the weight pounding on it.

The maxx is the only large 4WD var I've had so I'm not really sure what to expect or what truck to go with but if I switched, it'd put my electronics and all in it.

Any advice?

I think going from a monster truck to a Truggy is a great idea. I have two brushless Truggies and love them. They can go almost anywhere a monster truck can, they handle much better and I really don't break things.

I've been running my Hot Bodies D8T for a while now on a two different motors with great luck. To me a CC 1515 2200 motor is a little on the small side for a full weight truggy. I'm running a CC 1520 on 5s and it's a ton of fun.

Good luck,
Nick

Thanks for the input! That's really what I've been thinking. You have any preferences on brand or anything? Like I said, the drive train is the deal maker in this case.

I've heard a ton of good things about Mugen, but i'm not sure if it's worth the price over the others. I figure I could almost do a strait trade from my maxx to a HB truck or something. I fell in love with the performance of my mini 8ight, but the 8ight-T is way too pricey.

+1 for a truggy

I'm still running an 8T 1.0 & informally race/bash against other buggy's, truggy's & 1/5 Redcats & 5T. The truggy platform is consistent & very reliable

Awesome! I'll probably run my e-maxx untill my overkill lipo goes bad (since i think it's close). Until then, i'll try to find the right truck.

Any suggestions on truggy? It's got to have an electric conversion for it lol

I was (and still am kinda) a big Monster Truck fan. I love my Savage Flux to death, but I got a truggy (MBX5T) in the fall, and converted it to electric. Got to drive it a bit here recently and I'm blown away by the handling of this thing. Just point it and go! Jumps like crazy too, was hitting the berms and full speed, launches into the air nice and flat, just a little bit of throttle/brake to level it out and lands perfectly.
At a big grass field doing temp tests I only had to flip it back on the wheels ONCE during a whole pack. Don't think that's ever happened to me with the Savage.

I would highly recommend trying out a truggy! I got this Mugen for a pretty good deal with lots of spares. Hasn't taken anything that the savage couldn't, but I haven't broken anything yet either!

Without another point of reference, I vote 8T 1.0

There are no doubt many options equal or better

I've had good luck with my HB D8T, but I've been thinking about switching to a Mugen in the future. From what I read they are one of the toughest factory truggies out there. I bought the Tamiya 801Xt just so I could build a kit and it was cheap $200.

Nastety: Yea, all i've heard are the Mugen's are indestructible and very balanced. I could get a new MBX6TR kit for $510, witch i think i could sell my e-maxx roller for more than that looking at this truck since mine has 4 stock parts on it. may be wrong though...

PBO: Losi does kinda have my sold on the 8ight-t 2.0 since i have the mini 8ight (fitted a small mini revo body), but i'm not sure it it's worth the extra price for what I'm doing with it.

I think that is a lot for a new kit. You might consider buying a used Mugen roller. I've seen those for sale on other sites at reasonable prices.

As long as you are buying one of the large name brand truggies I'm sure you will be fine. They are all very strong and I think your going to enjoy it much more than your E-Maxx.

Right, I'll try to find one used. I'm just not finding them much. Maybe I should post a wanted thing or join another forum site that has more going up for sale.

This is the first month I've really been on this site in a couple years. Traffic has really slowed down...

Or you can keep your existing truck and upgrade it with the new Supermaxx High Voltage lightning. It's low like a truggy, but still qualifies as a Monster Truck by ROAR rules. Bulletproof parts and quality UE is known for.

It's equally at home on the racetrack as it is back yard bashing.

To upgrade all you do is take your front and rear end and the electronics and put them on the new chassis. Viola, a new beast is born.
http://www.unlimitedengineering.com/...0950Medium.jpg

But it uses the same drive train once it gets to the front/rear right?
I've been through a good 4-6 3.3 diffs and many many more shafts. I have my ESC pegged back a ways to prevent it.

Some 1/8 scale spider 8 diffs would fix that issue :whistle:

Stock TRX diffs just aren't built to handle the madness.


-Travis

6 spider diffs are in stock and are plenty strong enough for the Castle powerplant.
Only thing holding me back from the 8s is $$, I have to buy a big quantity and with HVL being such an expensive project I can't tie up the funds right yet.
You can get the diffs from Nitrohouse and we have drive cups and housings.
CVDS will be in stock soon.

Also to remember, HVL is a center diff application, this takes a lot of the heavy impact loads off the front and rear drivetrain so you would probably reduce the failure rate significantly just by going to a center diff.

I can see by your sig photo that the front tires are unloading to one side, the 1/8th diffs and the right fluids will cure this.

I vote truggy. I finally bought a Durango DNX408T with Mike's E conversion, I used to have a heavily hand customized Revo 3.3 brushless... this truggy is WORLDS better. The handling is absolutely phenomenal, I race at club level and my lap times went down 5 seconds already for this year, after 3 race days. The durability on it is pretty spectacular as well, having crashed HARD a few times already, nothing has broken or worn out.

Mugens have issues breaking their A-arms though, weak part on them.

Truggy! Do it!!!

Wheelman and MonsterMaxx:
How much would those diffs be? And then i'd have to sink enough into vcd's and an aluminum output tranny gear (remember mine is the old version) or tranny conversion. more and more $$$$$ and the diffs in it now can already send it on it's led on demand, so acceleration/breaking wise they wont help, only when landing jumps.
I did break an RPM arm out of no ware a few runs ago and trying to get it off and the new one in was a nightmare with bent/buggered suspension pins. The more I think about it, the less I wanna keep working on this truck, it just keeps getting harder.

Ever since I got the mini 8ight and saw how well it handled (handles better than my old rally did on sticky tires that made it flip all the time), and saw how simple but effective the design is, the more I keep disliking the maxx... I kinda hate to get rid of the truck since I've had the thing for 7 years but i just have the feeling I'll be much happier and better off $ wise with a truggy.

zeropointbug: The mugen's break arms? Interesting... I really haven't heard much about how the durango or associated truggy compare.

Justin put it spot on for ya. If you're going to keep the Maxx, do those few things he mentioned, and see what a difference it makes.

And if you're just not happy with the truck after that, part it out and get something different. UE parts hold their value (even in used condition), so you could always get your money back out of it (or most of it, at least).


-Travis

Justin-you really think the maxx will only bring 200?
that's depressing...lol

Yeah, I doubt you'd get more then $200 for your EMaxx roller on eBay.
I've bought and sold more then a dozen EMaxx trucks on eBay. I bought an ext 3906 FLM chassis, built a brushless EMaxx out of it and didn't like it, broke it up and sold it on eBay. I have a pretty educated opinion on what any EMaxx part or truck will sale for on eBay.
If you want you can send me pics of your truck and I'll give you an accurate estimate of what your EMaxx roller will sale for.
But if you have a stock EMaxx with an FLM chassis, you're looking at $200 for the roller.

It's FLM chassis/bulks/shock towers, RPM arms/axle carriers/skids/body posts, and aluminum shocks. I'd also be selling it with extra parts, custom aluminum battery tray/wheelie bar, a set of tires, the dual servos and a newly painted body with LED's I've wired up myself.
Also has a few small custom parts like the steel steering link

This picture is 2 years old, but gets the point across

http://i44.tinypic.com/dyb2m8.jpg

Is that a Traxxas 2056 servo?
That servo has less then 50% of the oz/in of
torque you'd want for a 14lb Monster Truck.

If you do keep the truck let me know, I might have a decent
servo in amongst my gear, I would sale you for your truck.

Thanks for the estimate and all the help. And Yesterday I cleaned the chassis with rubbing alcohol and brought the shine back into the parts.

If I get $300 out of it, I should be able to get a new D8T without losing any more than $30 verses the many more to convert it to a truggy. I could always list it, set a reserve, and see what it goes for and go from their.

I have had a couple of MT's(e-revo, twin force) with brushless setups and a Hyper ST Pro with castle 1518. I would take the truggy any day, it feels like a beast that must be tamed. Yet it goes where you want and doesnt flip over all the time. Cheaper too than a real good MT........

Thomas

Thanks Thomas. My only concern is the ground clearance. My friends and I take them to a park with a waterfall and many rocks and roots on the ground. My friends slash 4x4 handles most of it, but my maxx can definitely go over the top of rocks better.

Either way, I have decided to sell the maxx when I get the chance and just put a decent reserve on it.

Of all the MT's out there and I've had just about everyone, the LST is the best IMO. Love the handling and it's very durable without much upgrades like the Maxx trucks do. Truggies are awesome though, I loved my 8ight-t 2.0 and it's handling. It was on the low side but it can definitely handle rougher terrain than a Slash 4x4. I wouldve kept it but I'm more of a MT fan and couldn't get it raised up enough to get a the "look" I wanted. I also didn't like the thought of bashing a brand new "race roller" and beating up its chassis so I sold it before I did anything to totally kill its value. The sacrifice in handling when going MT to get the look back was worth it, but I still would like to get another Truggy, wish I could've afforded to keep the Losi 8t 2.0 at the time and get the LST.

Thank you for your opinion, I feel like I'm probably going to feel the same way.
It would be nice to have both to be honest, but that's not happening till I get out of school and get a real job at least. Then at that point i'll loose most of my RC time.
Who knows, if i come back to MT's, may a losi would be better anyway lol
My local hobbytown is talking a lot about moving locations to were they can fix an indoor (maybe outdoor too) track, hence another reason I kinda want a truggy and to keep my mini 8ight. The closest track right now is 1.5 hours away...