RC-Monster Mike so what's the plan?
 

Howdy Mike -

So what is the barrier to another run of Hybrid Revo Diffs? I'd purchase at least 3 sets for myself and there are few other members looking for these elusive components.

Holidays are coming....why not make a young man smile!:yipi::lol::smile:

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Honestly, I was never completely happy with them, due to the inherent limitations in the Traxxas design(not enough room in the bulks for properly sized pinion bearings that can take the abuse). I have a V4 about 90% designed, but haven't completed them due this very thing - a hybrid bulk would be better(though costly).

Hey Mike,

Will you start again with Revo Parts if your ready with the Maxx line?
I would like to see some Hybrid Diffs or Bulks and a V-Revo Chassis with LCG.

I have a V-Revo chassis concept largely worked out in my brain, but haven't got it drawn up yet - likely very soon, though. Lots of stuff rolling around in my head - just not enough time in a day!

If you made a Set of Diff/Bulks and a Chassis I will buy one maybe tow.
Every time when I saw a G3R I like to hit myself. I had the chance to buy one but I was to stupid.

A revo chassis would be sweet.

So...I have 3 fully built Revos now. And truth be told I probably should not call them "Revos". The only stock part on any of them is the screws and bulk heads. Everything else is a custom part. That said...what do you mean by "Costly"? I'm more than 5K or 6K into this hobby...and don't think I'm going to stop any time soon.

What if you based them off of the LST diffs and casing?

Ditto...I'd buy 2 or 3 as well. Nitro/Lipo chassis diffs and bulks would all work. Power source matters not.

what's a V-Revo?

LST diff cases require bulkhead modification - the ONLY way to get a 16mm pinion bearing into a Revo would be to modify the bulks(or make a new bulk with ample room).

A V-Revo would be an RC-Monster Victory series chassis for the ERevo, much like the V-Maxx chassis. :-)

V-Revo gotcha...so want I need is a BV-Revo (modified chassis for Big Block Victory Nitro engine series chassis). If there is a way to allow a BB to be mounted rear center on a chassis I think that would be sweet?

Whatchathinkofdabe

Nitro?????

Are you suggesting a nitro big block revo with a center diff? A center-mounted motor would raise the motor an inch +/- from the stock location(higher cg) unless the diff was offset, so probably not as effective as it sounds.

Yes I was....I was thinking about two separate "possible" designs.

1. Center mounted BB engine with RAISED or elevated transmission case. Transmission case mounted in the same location. Here my thought was that BB would be able to engage the Spur gear on the right hand side rather than the left like it does today. Raising the transmission would allow the engine to remain low. The center drive shafts would need to be longer but there are plenty to choose from.

Or

2. Center mounted BB engine with a double-decker chassis. Completely redesigned chassis - I guess more like a truggy chassis (maybe I should just buy a truggy) LOL....

But I seem to recall toying with the idea of flipping the chassis over and trying to mount all the gear back onto it but with the engine centered. Didn't get very far with this idea but it's still with me.

Option 1 seems like the rear-center shaft would have to pass through the engine - don't see it happening. Any option that has a centered motor will have this challenge(which is why Losi offset their rear diff on their 8 lineup - to get the motor closer to the center, though this creates other problems(extreme angle on front-center shaft leading to high wear and heat).

Now, a truggy chassis that uses a Revo suspension setup would be nifty.

Hey.....I really like the thought of this. SO if you did that would you do something better for the diffs\bulkheads? The Truggy chassis with Revo suspension would open provide new options for larger spur gears right?

Fabricating something that allows the front/rear bulk heads and rockers to connect to is all that is needed. The same design could be used on the front and rear.

I think it's a good idea...:yes::whistle:

Very nice Idea! If we can use this chassis with BL and Nitro it would be perfect. I think than it will be possible to use a normal Start-Box with a Revo.

.... back to my original question...what would you need to commit to a production date - for the hybrid diffs? Seems there is more than a fair amount of interest.:yipi:

Would taking a pre-payment or maybe a partial payment (balance due before shipped) help bring this product back to life?

The biggest thing I need is time in all honesty - I understand there is a need and desire for the product and would like to offer it again at some point.

A brushless revo without hybrid diffs is a shelf queen / in pieces.

Without them I'd have to get a maxx

Hey Mike -

I don't know your back story...are you a machinist full-time? Is RC-Monster a side gig for you? We all find a way to make time for things we deem important or fun. It would be nice to know if we are holding out for the long run or could expect to see the diffs up for sale in 1 or 2 months. :yipi::mdr::smile::sarcastic: Either way I've got nothing but time (See what I did there?)

Now the Revo chassis we were discussing - that has some real promise. Especially, if you could design it in such a way that most big blocks would "fit".:oh::gasp:

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I am technically from a business/management background, but have been "The Monster" exclusively for 10+ years. My machinist skills are self-taught - I was a hobbyist for years before I started RC-Monster(initially the thought was to hopefully fund my obsession with the hobby, but it ultimately became my way of life). I have always preferred electric power and started out importing brushless motors(Lehner, Hacker, Feigao, etc.) and controllers(MGM, BK Electronics, Quark) - mostly for the Maxx trucks, which were hugely popular at the time. Castle Creations was relatively new and did not offer any car/truck systems at the time - Novak was the only "car" game in the US, but they didn't have any 1/8 sized systems(still not much in this size from Novak). From there, I was picked up(sponsored) by GorillaMaxx and raced a fair amount and helped develop the brand. I started selling parts in addition to motors and escs(Integy, RDLogics, GorillaMaxx, FastLane Machine, Unlimited Engineering, etc.) around this time as well. When GorillaMaxx was transitioning from the G2 to the G3 line, there was about 3 months when there were no "Gorilla" parts available - GorillaMaxx parts accounted for over 20% of my gross sales at the time, so I started to develop my own parts to insulate myself(and supplied GorillaMaxx some shafts, etc. as well). Over the years, my parts offerings and machinist skills have grown - my strength is more on the creative/idea side in reality.

Great Stuff Mike C. I found a few articles out there about you (The internet just doesn't let stuff die) I hope you finally got over the lost of your dog - JK. I get it...electric power is "instant on" but I can't get past the "sound of it". For me, nitro is just so much more fun. Yep there is a fair amount of frustration as well but anything worth learning/mastering does not come easy.

You are fairly crafty at not committing to a Hybrid Diff timeline. So I'll wait and hope I don't miss them when they are available. I really hoping a Revo chassis built for a big block would see the light of day. - Oh well....

LOL - I haven't had a dog since I was a kid - love dogs, though! The sound of nitro definitely has a "cool factor" that draws a crowd and gets the adrenaline pumping - I prefer the instant power and low maintenance of electricity, but I get nitro, too - raced nitro along with electric for years and loved every minute of it(aside from the nitro mess). Nitro tends to annoy the neighbors as well.

I think diffs must happen before a big block chassis - there was a big block conversion for the Revo trucks available years ago - not sure if it still is, though. Big block T-Maxxes used to be the rage a decade or so ago, which ultimately led to hybrid bulks and ultimately led to what we now call truggies.

Hey Mike -

I think these photos capture the REVO-TRUGGY you were talking about. What do you think? Not my work but I almost bought it.

http://www.vnsllc.com/rc/TruggyRevo1.jpg
http://www.vnsllc.com/rc/TruggyRevo2.jpg
http://www.vnsllc.com/rc/TruggyRevo3.jpg

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Looks like the proper concept(though looks like a mock-up rather than a build).

Offtopic, but man those flextec arms look awesome!

I agree...that was the primary reason I was trying to buy this unit. Been trying to get my hands on a set of these for almost 4 years. The moment I do...off to a anodizing shop they will go (Can titanium be anodized?). Bright orange or Blueish green I think would look proper.

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What? Anodizing titanium? That would be a sin to me :)

It cannot be anodized the same way aluminum is. You can change the color with both heat and electric current. Those are two different methods.

Funny...

Seriously? Well dam...Why not? Is that the anodizing is effectively a "coat" of paint that hardens? And the titanium properties allow a modest amount of give?

Anodizing is not a "coat of paint" - it is an electrolytically created layer of oxide on the surface of a part. The color is from a dye that is incorporated into the oxide layer. However this wikipedia article mentions that anodizing can be done for a number of different metals including Titanium: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anodizing

I think anodizing titanium is just a slightly different process(or same process, different solution) vs aluminum - when anodizing aluminum, the parts are suspended in the solution with titanium.

Mike -

Okay...I was able to purchase this concept. If i shipped it to you...would you be up to working on it to finish the design? I bought for the Flextec Arms...the chassis was a plus but I don't have the skill or contacts to complete the build.


You up to it? If not you got a name of someone you trust?

I wouldn't mind the project, but couldn't take it on at the moment. I need to finish a few other projects 1st.

If you serious I've got nothing but time...PM your shipping address and I'll send in Jan 2016.

Check out coloring titanium with heat. There are youtube vids. It gives the titanium a very cool rainbow color and is very easy to do.

Mike - reading my reply to your post I noticed missed a golden opportunity to jab you.

Quote from MonsterMike "I need to finish a few other projects 1st."

My reply should have been a "Yep! And at the top of that list should be Hybrid Revo Diffs." Stating it now it even feels like a missed opportunity. :sarcastic:

Oh well....:diablo:back to my cave.

Will do...thanks!