Get me up to date! Need info please
 

It's been a while since I've been on here. I have a t-maxx with hardcore titanium chassis I have left over from all my builds. I want to convert it to bash and have some fun. Want to run a traxxas 1515 2200kv motor on 4s or 5s but not sure what esc to run. Already have the adapter for the summit 2 speed trans I'm going to use. Have 2 one piece batt trays coming. Looking at the new traxxas and castle escs. What's the latest? I've used the castle mmmv3 and still have one. The new versions different? I read something about them being locked and notice they have an extra capuciter pack on them. Should I put one of those on my mmm? Also recommend me some good set of lipos 4s or 5s that won't break the bank. I also have a ofna hyper 7 I am almost done converting too. Get me up to date guys. Lol why that pic is upside down beats me.

The latest 1:8 scale ESC from Castle in de Mamba Monster X.
I have the original MMM, that works great for me, I use a Castle BEC, but that is just because I run my servo on 7,4v.
Castle ESCs had some problems with brown outs, maybe that is what the extra cap is for?
The newer versions of the Mamba Monster, are the MM2 and the X, both are waterproof, and have a selectable BEC voltage maxing out at 7,4v, where the original tops out at 6v.

I like Gens Ace battery's, not to expensive, and great customer support.

If I had to buy a new system for my setup which one would you get? Anybody? Keep affordability and reliability in mine. Smokin 3 mmm escs at that high speed event back in the day wasn't a good experience. Of course I was abusing them and castle fixed them all for free. Thanks again castle! :smile: that's why I want castle products again. I was thinking a xo1 setup.

Honestly, if you aren't going to run really large tires, I still believe the Castle 2200kv motor is the most appropriate Castle offering for this truck. The 1717 from the XO1 would be great, I'd just worry about blowing diffs all the time, unless you're going to swap in LSTs or UE diffs.
Other motor I would suggest is a Tekin 1700kv truggy motor.

I would swap up for the latest Castle MM X for the waterproofing and latest technology.

Yea 2200 it's going to be. But I was thinking the xo esc. Castle mm x? Don't think ive seen that one yet. Are turnigy lipos still pretty good?

Hey Rivermaxx! Did you get my PM?

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Since you have a MMMv3 I would use that. But if you want one of the many features that the MMX has over the MMM definitely get that. I have a MMM(probably like v10) but I wanted sensored for something specific so I just received a MMX in the mail. I am going to have have it soldered up tomorrow! BTW The mmmv3 or the MMX will power a 1717 just fine.

Yes, the batteries from Hobbyking are pretty good. They are good enough. Make sure to get batteries that are rated for at least "35c". I would get the nanotech packs.

I need 2 escs I'll use the mmm for my buggy build. Just want what ever is the newest version esc is but not sure which is newer esc , xo1 or mmx ?. Not going to run the 1717, 2200 has plenty of power. Is the x01 esc basically a mmm with extra capacitors? Or is it more programmable? Is the new blue case traxxas escs the same water proof castle mmx? Read something about being locked too. What's the deal with that?

The newest Monster ESC is the X.
First was the MMM1, then the MMM2 and now the MMM X.
The X has some nice features, I would go with that one if I was in the market for a new ESC.
If I am correct, the X01 ESC is a MMM1 with extra caps, but they might have changed that to the MMM2 with extra caps.
Squirrel on Youtube has send his ESC in for warranty a while ago, and he got a normal MMM1 back.
The waterproof ESC's in the E-Maxx and E-Revo brushless are a MMM2 with a different case if I am correct.

Ok now I see.

The MMX is vastly superior to the MMM2 IMHO.

:)

Yea but I don't think I need it for a basher. I really just want reliability. With that mmx being latest esc I'm willing to wait till all the bugs are out before I buy.

The main differences is that the MMX uses hardware similar to the Phoenix line -- more reliable, higher power handling, and datalogging.

This software has been in use for seven years -- There are no major bugs or issues.

Thanks!

Patrick

the x seems to overheat in speed applications i have seen more than 1 shut down. i removed mine and went back to a mmm2. no problems. this was in a tc4

Settings?

on the mmx? no punch control, 0timing,med start power,1 pass and shut down..

Rest of the car, gearing etc. exactly the same as with the Monster2 setup?

Really weird, looks like it can actually _less_ current then?

Never had a single temp shutdown with my three XO-1 Mamba Monsters which were used in different cars.

I get mine hooked up 2night. I will know if this is really an issue. I am still assuming the MMX is good to go.

I might be wrong, but I thought the X01 Mamba Monsters where the V1 versions, not the MMX?

The xo1 escs are the the last edition of the MMM plus a cap bank. Right before the mm2 came out. We'll before the MMx.

on my setup it was all the same gearing ect. i have it in my erevo and does fine. but for speed runs was a nogo.

I am going to stress it. 4s in a 12 pound Truggy geared for 50. Lol. Will also mount 40 series mashers.

That's interesting. On my MMX it seems like the fan comes on more often but I've never had a shut down though. Do they still come on at 150? Maybe it's running warmer because of all the data logging? The fan on my MME (from the XO1) seems like it never comes on.

Okay, I have done my testing. I am so thrilled with this esc. I quote the above not to be argumentative. Only to provide more than information for people considering the MMX. Especially those who might see the above and become worried about heat management and thermal shutdowns.

The first thing I wanted to know where the dimensions.* The footprint is almost identical which is great. I am not sure about height. That wouldn't matter to most people. It has four caps. The old one had 3. The fan is easily serviceable. The case feels more solid. The motor and power wires face exactly as the old mmm does which is perfect for my setups. I love the red X on top. Those sorts of aesthetics are important to me. I shortened all the wires to match my setup except of course the sensor and fan wires.

I ran the castle link software through the esc pleasantly finding new features. Last time I got on castle link I had not seen the feature to limit the torque that new dynamic way. I had since heard about it but never seen it until a few days ago. I think its awesome! I left it alone for now though.

I think I left everything else pretty much default. I did change brake power to 50%.

I have not figured out the aux function controls. The .9ms and 2ms explanation makes no sense to me.* I may have the numbers wrong but that part of the manual doesn't seem in sync with the rest of the user friendliness of the rest of the manual.

This is my gear ratio, voltage, kv, weight, and ambient temps: The vehicle is an 11lb truggy. South Alabama has had some crazy weather. I ran the truck the day after Christmas on Saturday. The ambient temp at the time was 75f. I was running in tall grass about 3 inches. Full throttle back and forth. The throttle would be all the way down for about 25 seconds. I would slow down only to turn around. The hottest I got the esc to read out was 123f. The fan never came on. The motor got to 136f.
Differential Ratio: 3.3076923076923075
Transmission Ratio: 1
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 40
Pinion Tooth Count: 15
Total Voltage: 14.80
Motor KV: 2100
Tire Diameter (inches): 5.6
Tire Ballooning (inches): 0
Motor Current Draw: 0
Motor Coil Resistance: 0
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 2.67 : 1
Total Ratio: 8.82051 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 17.59 inches (446.86 mm)
Rollout: 1.99:1
Total Motor Speed: 31080 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 58.7 mph (94.3 km/h)
Effective KV Value: 2100
KT constant: 0.64 oz-in/A
Motor Torque: Amperage not specified...
Final Torque: Amperage not specified...
Final Power: Amperage not specified...


I know my very latest MMM from 2014 or 13 could not have performed that way. 58.7mph!!! ..

did you log the amps?

Hey kcaz you running single batt pack or 2. Thinking 4s but got me a set of UE diffs I set up perfect with Kyosho new helical gears with so now I think it can hand 6s no problem. Found a Kyosho dogbone that fits perfect in the hardcore titanium chassis with the new emaxx trans and special eBay adapter. The battery trays will fit perfect on the chassis also. Just need to drill that titanium. I know it's a bitch to cut for sure but never tried drilling it. Maybe I'll just epoxy those trays on.

Hers another pic with body: don't know why it's upside down lol.

Did your MMX reduce power like the XLX is doing? Or did it just shut down temporarily.

mine shut down and was beeping a sequence on both a tc4 4s car and a 6s serpent 977E.

So MM2 is the way to go for speed runs

mm2 or xl2. stay away from anything castle with a x..

Or not. I like my MMX. It does look the XLX looks like it has a current problem.

Xl2 has an x btw.

Ok kcaz25 he didn't ask if you liked your mmx, he ask what was good for speed runs. Post up you speed run videos..

My bad, really. :oops: I forgot about the original post and I am taking this recent castle stuff pretty hard as you can tell.

I have never been above the mid 50mph. Even though I know you were just (rightfully so) poking fun at me.

I like castle too, I have many castle esc, like I said before had a mmx in my erevo paired with a leopard 4082 1600kv on 6s and it ran and performed great. Just speed runs and drag racing the new xlx, and mmx suck. No word from Patrick on either of the threads also. Kinda puts a bad light on them in my eyes. Should have made people aware of changes. Atleast hobbywing max states it has protection built in.

I hit 94 mph with my 1/8 truggy and the MMX. No power problems, just some weird "motor start failure" errors. This is with a small 1515 motor, a larger motor is up next.

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Nice!

That didn't look anywhere near 94 mph to me and i've been in the speed game a long time. how are you testing the speed? any proof maybe do one showing the gps zeroed out and then show the speed. also the quantum reads in kph not mph..

I hate to be a doubter but have to agree. Looked a little sluggish to be 94mph.

Maybe you're not used to seeing 1/8 off road truggies make speed passes? I'm using a Quanum GPS Logger V2, which has a better chip than the Garmin Forerunner 101/201. Yes, I'm well aware that it reads in kph lol.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/monster-...4070-a-26.html

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1cpbt3dc.jpg

I'm used to seeing various speed cars, I have a few myself. slash 4x4, 4tec,serpent 977E, and a dragrace concepts top fuel rail. either way the truggy isn't much bigger than my slash. still don't think its 94. I would have to see a video showing mph. all mine are like that.