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Pdelcast 12.19.2015 01:01 PM

Mamba XLX released
 
http://www.castlecreations.com/products/mamba_xl_x.html

MonsterMaxx 12.19.2015 01:44 PM

12s?

ruudxd 12.19.2015 02:11 PM

Doesn't look like it?

"MIN: 3S LiPo; MAX: 8S LiPo (See Application Guidelines)"

phildogg 12.20.2015 12:10 PM

Is the only thing the bec, and aux wire? if so i'll stick to my proven xl2 till i can't get them anymore.

SV6000 12.21.2015 11:21 AM

Well i hope they release a HV version that is capable of 12s to match their motor

Kcaz25 12.21.2015 12:12 PM

Looks like more caps too.

Dr_T 01.25.2016 02:26 PM

I ordered one from Tower last night, but it still needs to board the plane to Germany. Thought about getting that new Toro Beast ESC, but reading how SkyRC seems to have screwed up the accompanying software, made me choose for XLX, although I have seen the XL2 getting a bit hot in Othello's Carson Dirt Attack - which is same car I'll be using it in. Castle's datalogging keeps being one of the big selling points for me though.

Any feedback about the exact differences between XL2 and XLX (besides the obvious BEC, Aux settings and Caps), Patrick? How much more capacitance did you add compared to XL2?

auto2 01.27.2016 09:15 PM

remembering the mamba max that with a big fan could sometimes run 5s all day.but the specs said 3s max........hummmm:-) who want to void the warrentee first?

also 30 pounds max? that eliminates a brushless losi 5ive. But not my losi 5ive buggy:-)

_paralyzed_ 01.28.2016 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by auto2 (Post 430524)
remembering the mamba max that with a big fan could sometimes run 5s all day.but the specs said 3s max........hummmm:-) who want to void the warrentee first?

also 30 pounds max? that eliminates a brushless losi 5ive. But not my losi 5ive buggy:-)

That's an apples to oranges comparison. The mamba max had components with voltage overhead.

In the XLX the components are optimized, and voltage over 6s will pretty much immediately blow the caps.

No over volting these guys.

Dr_T 01.28.2016 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 430528)
That's an apples to oranges comparison. The mamba max had components with voltage overhead.

In the XLX the components are optimized, and voltage over 6s will pretty much immediately blow the caps.

No over volting these guys.

8S.

Slightly off-topic here, but the new MMX might have some Voltage overhead, Lizard's MMX factory bench log on it showed it was tested up to 32V input; that was without throttle though (see below). My MMX FAT logs were just ~6S, so not sure what's the deal there. Does anyone happen to know the FET rating of the MMX?

I've heard people running the 1/10 Sidewinders on 4S too, which seemed to work if a UBEC was used. Would be nice if MMX could be run on 7S without too much added risk.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...psg0sthdtf.jpg

_paralyzed_ 01.28.2016 09:12 PM

Yep, I meant 8s. Brain fart.

Dr_T 02.16.2016 04:57 AM

Mine arrived from across the pond.

Didn't open it up to check the inside caps, but the new XLX front caps are 2x1500uF instead of the 2x680uF of the XL2. The integrated cappack is 4x820uF. So, assuming internal caps are still 2x560uF like with XL2, total capacitance is 7400uF, compared to 2480uF of XL2, that should produce some manly sparks!

Although the added cappack seems like a bit of an afterthought, I think it looks pretty decent (at least better than when I'd have to add a bunch of caps myself) and the added length doesn't matter for the car I'll be using this in. Compared to the MMX, the AUX wire is not a single 4th wire, but an additional 3-wire connector, that, if I interpret the warnings correctly, also helps distributing the onboard BEC's power - and as a result, also needs to be unplugged when using the link.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/members/...zerender-5.jpg

http://www.rctech.net/forum/members/...zerender-6.jpg

http://www.rctech.net/forum/members/...zerender-2.jpg

http://www.rctech.net/forum/members/...zerender-3.jpg

http://www.rctech.net/forum/members/...zerender-4.jpg

snellemin 02.16.2016 03:36 PM

I'm liking the capbank assembly.

phildogg 04.01.2016 08:57 PM

Have you ran this esc much? I'm wondering how detuned yours is ? data?

Dr_T 04.05.2016 03:27 PM

Haven't had time to finish car yet, work/career ramping up at expense of playtime. Will get it up and running eventually and post results :).

phildogg 04.15.2016 08:45 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foiRZU5UVTA

nitrostarter 04.16.2016 08:58 AM

Ok what's gives here?? The green car on 3s clearly blew away when it was powered on 6s. Sounds like they need to release a new firmware.

jcflyer 04.16.2016 11:13 AM

This is exactly why I don't buy Castle anymore, we had the same problem years ago in the heli world!!! Speed controllers catching on fire and just blowing up for no good reason, and your heli falls from the sky complete rebuild!!! Not anymore for me!!!

Kcaz25 04.16.2016 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcflyer (Post 430750)
This is exactly why I don't buy Castle anymore, we had the same problem years ago in the heli world!!! Speed controllers catching on fire and just blowing up for no good reason, and your heli falls from the sky complete rebuild!!! Not anymore for me!!!

You didn't watch the video did you? You couldn't have. He said Castle is good, but he feels lied to about the new current limit or something. "this is exactly" you say. :neutral: (Does anyone remember how SuicideNeil would berate people? I miss him. lol Neil would probably berate me for punctuation. The moderators at Traxxas have nightmares about him.)

I am sure everything is going to be fine. My MMX performs better than my latest version MMM. Let me say, it performs awesome. I had the last model of MMM before the MM2. That performed awesome too, but would get 150f sometimes. My MMX hasn't broken 130f in similar conditions. Actually the guy on the video said that he treats his stuff good and doesn't blow stuff up. He said that he did have two escs burn but he said that was his fault. He says, "remove the limits, and let me worry if I don't have a warranty." "I know how to take care of my stuff." Call me a fan boy. I don't care. I had a MMMv3 that could take live ammunition. I was and continue to be impressed with Castle. I have personally spoken to the owner. He has replied to threads that I started.

We could use some answers, sure.

phildogg 04.16.2016 08:51 PM

I agree i have had my stuff for ages, recently lost a original mmm. Sucks because it was a good esc. This new stuff just doesn't cut it for me though. I have 3 xl2 a couple mm2 and a mmx runs fine as long as you don't want too much from it like in rawsteeles video.

Kcaz25 04.16.2016 09:58 PM

My MMX is bananas on 4s just like the old stuff, in fact, its better, because it runs cooler. The gearing for my MMX would eventually thermal my older MMMs. 12 pound truggy geared for like 55mph. My MMX doesn't thermal. I love the new features, and the monster bec. Maybe we will see sensored motors and even sensored 1/5th scale escs and motors. I have never ran 6s though and I don't have a XL2 or XLX.

jcflyer 04.16.2016 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kcaz25 (Post 430751)
You didn't watch the video did you? You couldn't have. He said Castle is good, but he feels lied to about the new current limit or something. "this is exactly" you say. :neutral: (Does anyone remember how SuicideNeil would berate people? I miss him. lol Neil would probably berate me for punctuation. The moderators at Traxxas have nightmares about him.)

I am sure everything is going to be fine. My MMX performs better than my latest version MMM. Let me say, it performs awesome. I had the last model of MMM before the MM2. That performed awesome too, but would get 150f sometimes. My MMX hasn't broken 130f in similar conditions. Actually the guy on the video said that he treats his stuff good and doesn't blow stuff up. He said that he did have two escs burn but he said that was his fault. He says, "remove the limits, and let me worry if I don't have a warranty." "I know how to take care of my stuff." Call me a fan boy. I don't care. I had a MMMv3 that could take live ammunition. I was and continue to be impressed with Castle. I have personally spoken to the owner. He has replied to threads that I started.

We could use some answers, sure.

Oh I watched the video he is just stating what I already know!!! A new and improved product that is not as good as the one it is replacing!!! You do the math!!! Castle has been flirting with disaster for a long time... I don't care one way or the other I just don't use anything they make anymore!!!

Arct1k 04.17.2016 06:41 AM

Looks like a firmware issue/decision to smooth load when esc running at max voltage. Have to say I'm impressed by the video. He has some fast cars.

Kcaz25 04.17.2016 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcflyer (Post 430754)
Oh I watched the video he is just stating what I already know!!! A new and improved product that is not as good as the one it is replacing!!! You do the math!!! Castle has been flirting with disaster for a long time... I don't care one way or the other I just don't use anything they make anymore!!!

You and the guy from the video are not saying "exactly" the same thing.

You said, "they blow up no reason", he said, "hey castle remove the limits and don't lie to me"

jcflyer 04.17.2016 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kcaz25 (Post 430756)
You and the guy from the video are not saying "exactly" the same thing.

You said, "they blow up no reason", he said, "hey castle remove the limits and don't lie to me"

Not exactly, reread my first post. I said that in the past in the heli world we had similar issues with Castle ESC's, they would either blow up or catch on fire or shut down in the middle of a flight!!! All resulting in a complete rekit of the heli...

Kcaz25 04.17.2016 12:37 PM

I have no idea why I wanted to argue. I'm done. Carry on.


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