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Darren 06.14.2006 06:48 PM

Brushless lightning stadium
 
I dont see a dedicated thread so far to doing this so I think I shall do one, and hope that it will encourage others to dive in there and get creative.

I am no master machinist or fabricator like alot of people on this forum. I'm simply a 14yr old with a dremel and a bit of common sense. All i needed to do this whole conversion is simply a 12V power drill and a dremel.

I received a Lightning Stadium RR today in the mail (My mum wasn't terribly happy!) with the intention of creating the first brushless truggy in Scotland. Firstly, I removed the engine, pipe, fuel tank, radio box and throttle servo. I first cut off the area where the throttle servo was, as it protrudes the area where the cells and centre diff gear will go. Next; for some strange reason, Hot Bodies decided to cut the rectangle for the centre diff to the one side, so I had to cut the chassis at that are so I could reverse the centre diff for the motor to hang towards the front of the truck. Next thing on the list was the motor plate. The first thing you think when you see the motor plate is "This circle in the middle is where the drive cup can go through". Wrong! Because of the motor mounting bolt positions (assuming you have used the old brake mounting holes), they rub against the motor, and it cant be used.

... Continued tomorrow with more info and some pics (It's midnight!)

Darren

Serum 06.15.2006 04:48 AM

I thought i did one of these? there should be a thread around here somewhere..

Darren 06.15.2006 01:13 PM

I couldn't see it?

I dont mean that no one else has threads on it, I just want to make one that is really simple.

Darren 06.15.2006 06:41 PM

Continued from last time...

This was because I planned to sit the motor to one side of the centre diff. However, I quickly changed plan and decided to mount the motor ontop of the centre diff. Now by doing this, you can utilize the hole i mentioned earlier. You can see in this picture:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...6drivehole.jpg

The red line indicates the edge of the circle.

If anyone would like a close-up of the motor plate mounted or un-mounted, please ask and I will get one for you.

Now, to attatch the motor plate to the centre diff. I didn't think that two 2.5mm self tapping screws would cut it. I took the drill to the holes and enlarged them to 3mm. Then I counter-sunk the inner side (Diff gear side) of that block to bolt the motor plate on. It seems prety solid. Next, the centre diff brace. As standard the centre diff brace is some space ship-shaped item instead of a simple square. If you cut this so that it looks like a bracket, one of these ( then you will be able to use the other side of the bracket to make the new 'bracket'. Now there is no flex in the mount as before. Now we have to mount the esc. From this picture:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...165escarea.jpg

You can see the area marked out where the ESC can go, plenty of room. You can velcro this on, use a strap, cable ties, or make a plate and bolt it on. I bolted mine on.

Lastly is mounting the batteries. This is an easy step. If you have some battery straps, simply put 4 holes in your chassis (2 per side) and counter-sink them on the underside and put a nut on the battery strap washer. Easy.

And that's you pretty much done any other personal touches wont take very much work, cable tie-ing ubec's on etc...

All I needed To do this whole conversion was.

Maxx Motor plate (Now quarter of original size :018: )
Battery Straps

That's it. Simple.

Remember, All I had was a dremel and a 12V cordless drill. None of this pro lathe cnc stuff. I didn't even use a vice, I used a person. His thumbs are a little burnt from the heat of the motor plate, but he'll live.

Any pics etc..., needed, just ask.

cabking 06.15.2006 07:18 PM

Good job Darren, Heath Robinson would be proud.......,:027:

No seriously, good effort. Its good to show that leccy conversions can be done simply. The maxx motor plate is easily adaptable for most centre diff mounts,
I wonder if two screws is enough to hold it on though....Knowing how you drive, like.:030:
time will tell I guess. :027:

Jasper 06.16.2006 02:06 AM

Nice and clean conversion so far!

But are you going to drive with that steel spur? Don't you change it to a nylon?

Darren 06.16.2006 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jasper
Nice and clean conversion so far!

But are you going to drive with that steel spur? Don't you change it to a nylon?

Cabking, that's a compliment from what i usually get! Cheers mate! 2 bolts is enough. I haven't jumped it yet, but it seems solid. Who's Heath Robinson though :030: ?

Jasper, well here's the thing, is kinda a trap for my dad. I actually converted this for him, so I'm hoping that when he puts his HV-Maxx (its spare so might aswell try it) into this truggy, the pinion will get wrecked and he'll be forced to buy an XL with a hardened pinion :005: . Most change it to nylon, but i'll see if Mike can make a centre diff adapter for the ofna 51t spur gear 'after' dad gets the XL.

This thing handles so much better than my Maxx. I like how I can use the stock maxx tyres wthout worrying about it tipping over.

squeeforever 06.16.2006 01:51 PM

You might be able to just use the Kyosho spur. I'm almost positive that it will bolt right on.

cabking 06.16.2006 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren
Cabking, that's a compliment from what i usually get! Cheers mate! 2 bolts is enough. I haven't jumped it yet, but it seems solid. Who's Heath Robinson though :030: ?

Ask yer Dad Mate ;)
How is DD by the way??
One thing I would say though is If you are Drilling or Dremmling anything, then use a vice or a clamp.
Its very easy to make a mess of your fingers if you slip.........I sound like my Dad now :010:

Darren 06.16.2006 05:10 PM

DD (if you mean dad) is fine, and also has no clue who 'Heath Robinson' is.

Totally get you about the vice, I wasted 6 Dremel cutting discs because it kept back-lashing. Still, it's great when my friend Chris was holding the motor plate, 11 o'clock at night screaming because of how hot it was getting. Amateur engineering at its best!

Yeah, you do sound like your dad, go sit in the corner :027: .

Squee - Which one?

squeeforever 06.16.2006 05:59 PM

The 44T Mike sells.

cabking 06.16.2006 09:24 PM

Quick history lesson for you and Dad. :dft009: http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-hea4.htm
do ya get me now :005:

Darren 06.17.2006 09:55 AM

Yeah :) .

Here's a pic of the centre diff brace I was talking about. Bracket shaped thing.


http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...y/DSCF2173.jpg

I know, it's a 32p pinion, should have my Mod-1 pitch pinion from Mike on monday. Still haven't convinced dad to buy a real motor though :).

cabking 06.17.2006 10:24 AM

what was the brace in its previous life??

Darren 06.17.2006 03:30 PM

It used to be one of these.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...sdiffbrace.jpg

Darren 06.17.2006 04:55 PM

Here's the finished article, so to speak.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21.../Dscf21842.jpg

Darren 06.20.2006 02:54 AM

The HV-Maxx system will barely move this truggy. It's now on eBay and another 9XL/9920 setup should be coming my way in the next week :) .

Superbasher 06.29.2006 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren
The HV-Maxx system will barely move this truggy. It's now on eBay and another 9XL/9920 setup should be coming my way in the next week :) .

lucky you! are you super rich or something? i cant imagine how much im going to have to scrub to get money for my revo :005:
or it might be an mt2, depending on how my T4 goes.

Darren 07.05.2006 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superbasher
lucky you! are you super rich or something? i cant imagine how much im going to have to scrub to get money for my revo :005:
or it might be an mt2, depending on how my T4 goes.

No, I just seem to come across money. :018:

9XL/9920 went out the window, took a 10XL/Quark 125B instead. I must admit I am VERY impressed with the Quark ESC.

Here are pictures of the final item.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...y/Dscf2350.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...y/Dscf2351.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...y/Dscf2352.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...y/Dscf2353.jpg

Enjoy.

Darren 07.05.2006 11:06 AM

Pic beside my Brushless G-Maxx

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...hotobucket.jpg

(Didn't wanna put pic on, so I can keep it big)

Superbasher 07.05.2006 11:54 AM

SWEET! took my T4 out yesterday and its sooooooooo fast! got a little hot though as it was about 28c outside (it thermalled once) going to test it in cooler weather.

Darren 07.05.2006 01:09 PM

Curiosity here mate, is that dog in your avatar real?

Sylvester 07.05.2006 07:17 PM

Very nice darren! Clean up those wires, bud!

Darren 07.06.2006 06:31 AM

I've ran out of cable ties to clean them up :007: . Must get some from DIY store tonight.

Superbasher 07.06.2006 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren
Curiosity here mate, is that dog in your avatar real?

i dunno. its just a pic i found on google or a funny pics site. if its real im guessing its a russian bred dog :005:

cabking 07.06.2006 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darren
No, I just seem to come across money. :018:

We Know all about you Glaswegens,............ If it aint bolted down :005:

Nice job BTW, does the chassis pull the heat from the Quark well enough.
I'm going to mount mine like that on my CRT, hoping not to need fans if the chassis works well enough.

Darren 07.07.2006 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabking
We Know all about you Glaswegens,............ If it aint bolted down :005:

Nice job BTW, does the chassis pull the heat from the Quark well enough.
I'm going to mount mine like that on my CRT, hoping not to need fans if the chassis works well enough.

That wasnt your car i tried to hotwire yesterday was it :024:

Great guestion mate, and the answer is a 100% yeah. After about 5mins - 10mins running you can feel the quark and it is stone cold and the chassis underneath is a little warm. Worlds biggest heatisnk :018: .

Bad luck in the world cup mate :026: .


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