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OldSoldier 08.25.2006 05:10 PM

New Novak HV 6.5 brushless upgrade
 
Has anyone tried one of the new Novak HV 6.5 Brushless setup? I would be interested to know how it stacks up abgainst the Faigao line.

Looks like Novak also has a "Crawler" serie Brushless setup for power rock crawlers.
OldSoldier

squeeforever 08.25.2006 07:04 PM

The 6.5 isn't that impressive. The new 4.5 is supposed to be alot faster. I heard it was actually faster than a 9L on 12 cells. The only differences in the 6.5 and the old version is that the 6.5 runs a little cooler from what I here.

crazyjr 08.26.2006 01:07 AM

I'm getting the new rotor for mine this week and will tell how it runs

Serum 08.26.2006 03:08 AM

Sounds interesting. The motor isn't too heavy, perhaps a nice motor for a lightweight 4S project.. Novak; Time for a lipo cut-off!

coolhandcountry 08.26.2006 09:04 AM

I think the 6.5 may be an improvement over the older ones. It is a step up from the stock titans. ease to install to.

crazyjr 08.27.2006 12:04 PM

Its really the same except for the ribbed can and the sintered rotor

bluonyx 08.28.2006 12:58 AM

The 6.5 is perfect for me. I don't crave insane speed just a ton of torque so this is a perfect setup. I usually get 40 to 45 minute run times on my setup and the temp never goes over 130 degrees. Geared at 70/13 and I have a front and rear cutout on the body for good airflow.

One last thing, the brakes are insane on the 6.5, I had to turn the EPA to 85% to keep it from flipping on its lid!

Serum 08.28.2006 12:49 PM

40-45 minutes? What cells do you use?

bluonyx 08.28.2006 09:17 PM

I have 2 8000mah lipos from Maxamps.

RobK 08.29.2006 01:38 AM

I upgraded from the HV 4400 to the 6.5 (rotor replacement) a few weeks ago and it was quite an improvement. It runs a whole lot cooler and it feels like the effective KV is lower--I had to gear up :) I agree with the brakes--flipped it on it's lid several times before I got used to it. I ran it for almost 30 minutes yesterday on one of my local tracks non-stop and the motor nor the ESC never got above ~120. Batteries were Maxamps 8000 2S2P.

-Rob

Serum 08.29.2006 01:42 AM

Can you get a movie of it Rob?

RobK 08.29.2006 11:37 AM

I don't have a video camera, although it's on the list competing for R/C parts :)

-Rob

Serum 08.29.2006 11:48 AM

I think i know what wins..

Have you got another BL setup besides this hvmaxx?

RobK 08.29.2006 02:35 PM

No, the HV is my 1st & only brushless. It's almost too fast for the little track I'm currently going to. My only comparison point is the original Titans from my EMAXX--which is no comparison. Unless I start going to a much larger track, I just don't see the need for a more powerful motor--I'm more of a racer than a basher.

-Rob

Serum 08.29.2006 02:39 PM

true, most tracks are good to go for 12-14 cells or 4S lipo.

fromdaboz707 04.14.2008 09:18 PM

hi i am doing a revo conversion and making the revo electric and was looking a the HV 4400 and the 6.5 one was wondering if that would be good and i also need help on what gearing to use.. i am going to be running at the track most of the time.

jnev 04.14.2008 09:23 PM

Between those two, I'd go with the 6.5. But instead of either of those, you should wait a couple weeks for the MMM ESC to come out from Castle Creations and just get a Feigao 8xl or 9xl motor to go with it. Much more powerful and you'll be much happier with it.

fromdaboz707 04.14.2008 09:26 PM

ok i how much is a 8xl and how much do you think the mmm will be?.. i am going to be at RC X so maby they will sell the mmm there that would be cool :)

E-Revonut 04.14.2008 09:33 PM

I just got an 8xl shipped from superfastrc.com for $62 to replace my HV-MAXX 4.5 Way happier with it, running it from a MM/CC BEC for now, way more power 30 MPH wheelies aren't a problem. My Novak setup puked out on me for no apparent reason so I bought the Feigao and MM

fromdaboz707 04.14.2008 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 163340)
I just got an 8xl shipped from superfastrc.com for $62 to replace my HV-MAXX 4.5 Way happier with it, running it from a MM/CC BEC for now, way more power 30 MPH wheelies aren't a problem. My Novak setup puked out on me for no apparent reason so I bought the Feigao and MM

ok i am on a budgeted right now and i am trying to make an e-revo with 400-500 i have the revo right now what would be a good but cheep lipo battery

E-Revonut 04.14.2008 09:49 PM

I'm having good luck with MaxAmps but anyway U look at it 2 2s Lipos and a charger is gonna be at least $300

fromdaboz707 04.14.2008 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 163347)
I'm having good luck with MaxAmps but anyway U look at it 2 2s Lipos and a charger is gonna be at least $300

ok so i think that i am going to rase the budget to 600-700... but is the novak 4400 HV system which is the motor and esc is that a good set up in a e-revo

E-Revonut 04.14.2008 11:06 PM

No def not a good set up! Unless ur picking one up dirt cheap stay away from it. The motors need the upgraded 5mm rotor to be reliable ($50) and the esc still can't handle that motor. I paid $230 for mine then another $50 for the 5mm upgrade and its useless now. My Mamba Max was $140 from my lhs, the CC BEC was $22 on here and an 8xl that already has a 5mm shaft was $62 so that is actually cheaper and more powerful. Or wait another couple weeks and get the MMM for $170 and you wouldn't need the CC BEC to run it on 4s LiPo so it pretty much cost the same if you can wait. No matter what though I recomend staying away from the Novak setup!

fromdaboz707 04.14.2008 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 163369)
No def not a good set up! Unless ur picking one up dirt cheap stay away from it. The motors need the upgraded 5mm rotor to be reliable ($50) and the esc still can't handle that motor. I paid $230 for mine then another $50 for the 5mm upgrade and its useless now. My Mamba Max was $140 from my lhs, the CC BEC was $22 on here and an 8xl that already has a 5mm shaft was $62 so that is actually cheaper and more powerful. Or wait another couple weeks and get the MMM for $170 and you wouldn't need the CC BEC to run it on 4s LiPo so it pretty much cost the same if you can wait. No matter what though I recomend staying away from the Novak setup!

ok thanks for the info and are you shure taht the mmm will be 170? and can i pre order a mmm?

E-Revonut 04.15.2008 12:16 AM

Patrick from CC has posted on here in the sneak peek and mmm availability date dropped threads. Pre-order is supposed to be available next Monday and for the first week it will be only open for private individuals, no distributors, and will be able to preorder for $170.95 after that it will be closer to $200.

fromdaboz707 04.15.2008 12:19 AM

WOW how can i pre order one do i just call them up


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