Neo-One vs Novak 4.5 vs ?
 

Looking for a brushless setup for my Rc10B4.

How about a Mamba Max? Very cheap, programmable, and powerful...

Castle Creations Mamba Max ESC/7700kV Motor Combo

Feigao brushless motor 540 8L

3.5-turn brushless motor
NOVAK'S VELOCITI 3.5R MOTOR (490 watts)


Some are rated in turns and some in watts, kv, etc.
How do I know which motor is the hottest? Right now I would assume the Novak 3.5R. Theses need to be a 540 can also.

OK, let's step back for a second. What is the weight of the truck without batts? How fast do you want to go? And, how many cells are you going to use?

This is going to be for a little car. I don't know the weight. Associated B4 or TC4. Very light. I would like to get minmum 60 maybe 70+ MPH. I was looking at the Mamba and it will handle a 3S. The Novak and LRP I assume would only run on a 2S but I don't know.

you might want to try the mamba max 4600 with a 4s lipo(need a UBEC). that will get you to 60 pretty easily. you will have good runtimes too.

and yes novak and lrp can only run a 2s.

Why would I want the less powerful motor? Runtimes are not a concern. Max power and speed are the only thing that matter. Extreme!!!!! :)

motor is not everything ya know. 4600x14.8(4s lipo)= 68080, 5700x11.1(3s lipo)= 63270

you will also have more torque with the 4600 so you can pull a higher gear.

Castle Creations Mamba Max ESC/7700kV Motor Combo

Novak GTB/Velociti 3.5R System (490 watts)

These look like the best two. The Mamba can take more voltage, but the li-po for the Novak is cheaper.

Does anyone know how they compare power and speed wise on a 2S?
What about if I run the Mamba on a 3S compared to the Novak on a 2S?

the 7700 can only run on a 2s like the novak. why is the lipo for the novak more expencive? you have to by a LVC (low voltage cut off) with the novaks to run lipo.

go for a mamba max you won't be sorry!

it's cheaper, has a better esc, better motor, beter CS, ect.............

Does the mamba max have a built in Programmable LVC?
Or is it a preset.

Low Voltage Cutoff.

I don't know if either one has it.

The Mamba Max has a custom or pre-set LVC (you choose, through the computer software).

The most powerful setup you can get is what cemetery_gates mentioned, that won't kill the motor. 4s Lipo on the 4600 is ballistic, and I can tell you from experience. I run that setup in my highly modified Rustler, and if my radio range were good, I'm sure I'd be seeing 60-65mph.

Trust us on this, if you want speed, a lower kv motor and a higher cell count will be more powerful. The 4600 on 4S would be my choice as well. If you want speed, forget the Novak... Sensorless is the only way to go. Plus, the Novak doesn't even have a built in LVC like the CC controller. The reason to go with a 4600 is simple...The 4600 will pull less amps then the 7700, will heat up less from less strain, can pull a higher gear, will have more torque (which allows the higher gearing), and a couple others. If you want speed, look at all the other people with those speeds. There running a high voltage setup. Not a high kv. A high voltage setup will be more efficient and will be easier on the batteries, providing more power...

Edit: Damn...You beat me to it, Metalman...

At least we were saying the same thing, so we don't have to disagree :).

I would say if you go with a Mamba max controller and a Lehner 1920/5 turns with 3-4s lipos ( the lehner will most likely eat it) and appropriate gearing, you'll be in the mid 80s mph.

You are saying that the 4600 is less powerfull than the 7700, the 4600 will have more torque than the 7700, so in fact'the 4600 is the strongest motor available from cc.

If you are referring to me, I would say that I did not even took torque and power under consideration between the two motors. Besides I'm speaknig about the 1920/5. Having a segmented rotor would make it handle the extra voltage to some extent. I know its revoluting highly above 90000kv, but some people ran it with 12 sub c cells and it screamed with lots of velocity. Also, his B4 is super light and I doubt it would give the motor lots of work and that is why I would say that 3s is better to use than 4s, where the motor wont rev as high as it would with 4s and you would get to some very high speeds near the high 70s low 80s.
The guy, as I have understood, is looking for speed and not torque or power.
The 4600 will easily be an overkill for a light 2wd 1/10 buggy.

Very sorry for the long reply, though.

Why not stick a 3080 on the car.... j/k :) I would definately go for the lower KV and higher voltage one.... I agree with Serum...

I say all you need is a 5700 with 3s. It WILL go 70 mph if you gear up. You don't have to get a 4600 w/ 4s lipo to go that fast. In fact, you would have to use a separate BEC in order to use it.

Just for some clarification:

A 4000 kv motor on 3s is faster than a 7000 kv motor on 2s, and a 3000 kv motor on 4s is the fastest. The reason being that you gear higher with the high voltage, lower kv motors. Also, you really don't gain anything by using high voltage with a high kv motor.

At what point do I have to run the BEC? What is a BEC?

What is the 3080 Aqwut? I looked through the motors and don't see it.


I am looking to have more top end punch and much higher top speed than this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzGW6...6358DF&index=1

ok jb3231, you need to run a UBEC or a receiver pack at over 10 cells or 3s lipo with the mamba max, BEC (battery elimination circuitry) regulates the voltage to the servo, if you shove to much voltage in it, it will blow.

GET THE MAMBA MAX 4600 WITH A 4 CELL LIPO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



also the 3080 is a boat motor that is like 10kw or 13.5hp or something like that..............

The 4600 on 4s is faster than the 5700 on 3s. I will need to run a BEC for the servo's. Just stating what I am learning.

Battery and charger advice?

Lithium Polymer Battery RC Car 4000mah 4S 14.8V Pack

Is that the battery from Maxamps that I need to order? What charger, balancer, and BEC do I order?

yes the 4600 is faster on 4s http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...MM_4600&cat=20

ans here is the ubec
http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...=6vubec&cat=21

you can safely run 4s on the mamba max with a UBEC, but i believe you will void the warranty.

charger maybe?
http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...531lipocharger

not sure about a balancer.......

WoW!! THAT'S .... FAST. I need some LIPO batt's

The warranty isn't voided with using 4s as long as the onboard BEC is disabled (removing the red middle wire from the receiver connector) and an external BEC (like UBEC) or receiver pack is used.

Not voided!? Cool..

How about when you swing it with another motor?

Bytheway, Captain, i wasn't referring to you, i was referring to this post.

Oops!! Sorry.

I would assume it should still be the same.

that's wicked..

Both guys in the video are running 5700 Mamba Max's. The second guy is supposed to be running a 8 cell Nimh. Wouldn't the 3S on the 5700 be a little faster than the second car.

8 cell Nimh 9.6 9.6V
3S Li Po 11.1 V

um....yeah

but the mm 4600 on a 4s would be the fastest...............

I ordered the 5700 Mamba Max motor/contoller, 3S Li-Po 4000 Mah Maxxamps battery, Spektrum tx/rx, and charger yesterday.

I can't figure out if I should put it in a B4 or TC4. The expansion joints in the driveway and cul-de-sac may be a little rough for the touring car. Has anyone bashed with a touring car? The accelaration and handling should be insane.

fine don't listen to me! j/k

nice man should be fast! i would go with the B4 myself................

I didn't want to mess with the BEC and extra cost right now. Seems a little simpler this way and I should get more than enough out of this setup.

Will the 3S fit in a MR-4BX ? The car is setup for side by side.

There are only a few cells that fit the bill for SxS.

MaxAmps Lipoly 4000mah 3S 11.1V Pack

4000mah Capacity
11.1 Volts
44mm X 132mm X 20mm
Rated at 48 Amp Constant Discharge(12C)
Rated at 64 Amp Burst for 10 seconds(16C)
255 grams


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