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jtracker 10.12.2006 02:29 PM

Just got a nemesis xlt motor for my lst along with my Mamba max.
 
Hi,
I just got my motor for my lst and I was wondering if I needed anything else to run it. I disabled the bec on the mamba max esc and I was going to run a receiver pack. Do I need anything else?

jhautz 10.12.2006 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jtracker
Hi,
I just got my motor for my lst and I was wondering if I needed anything else to run it. I disabled the bec on the mamba max esc and I was going to run a receiver pack. Do I need anything else?


Just make sure you pull the red wire on the plug that goes to the RX. Other than that....

That will be the biggest truck I have heard of on the MM controller. I'm interested to hear how the MM handles it. What batteries are you going to run?

jtracker 10.12.2006 03:05 PM

Right now I am going to run my 2 3200 scorpion packs and some orion 4800's but I plan on getting some 12000 packs from max amps or similiar or prolly just a 14.1 pack instead of 2. I will keep you guys updated on how it does:027:

Serum 10.12.2006 03:27 PM

where did you bought that motor from?

jtracker 10.12.2006 03:40 PM

Just a guy that I know got a new one for me. Y do you ask?

Serum 10.12.2006 03:55 PM

curiosity why you didn't bought it from Mike.

Finnster 10.12.2006 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jtracker
Just a guy that I know got a new one for me. Y do you ask?


The only one I've seen carry that motor is F.D. (you know who.)

What are the specs for that motor? (ie kv, etc) That's a big truck for the MMax, will be interesting to see hwo it does. Keep us posted.

What gearing do you intend to run? Watching temps will be vital.

Rtsbasic 10.12.2006 05:13 PM

Definately let us know how it runs. A friend of mine has an MGT of a similar weight to an LST and if a Mamba would run in that his gonna be happy.

A fan over the esc would be a good idea btw, it dropped the temps on mine by approx 30F.

Darren 10.12.2006 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rtsbasic
Definately let us know how it runs. A friend of mine has an MGT of a similar weight to an LST and if a Mamba would run in that his gonna be happy.

A fan over the esc would be a good idea btw, it dropped the temps on mine by approx 30F.

Fan dropped the temps on my 9920 from 165*F to 95*F-100*F. Fans are a really good idea.

jhautz 10.12.2006 05:43 PM

Yea. I'm a big ''fan'' of fans myself.:005:




Wow! thats so bad I can't even believe I just posted that.:020:

neweuser 10.12.2006 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jhautz
Yea. I'm a big ''fan'' of fans myself.:005:




Wow! thats so bad I can't even believe I just posted that.:020:

Me too, i run two 30 mm!:005:

squeeforever 10.12.2006 06:15 PM

Yea, FD sells the XLT motors. If I'm not mistaken, thats some of his (you know who) BS. I have heard that there nothing but a Nemesis that he relabled....Cemetarygates called you know who and asked a few questions, like kv, etc, and you know who said some BS about how he has been in business long enough to know better than to tell that stuff...

jhautz 10.12.2006 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by squeeforever
Yea, FD sells the XLT motors. If I'm not mistaken, thats some of his (you know who) BS. I have heard that there nothing but a Nemesis that he relabled....Cemetarygates called you know who and asked a few questions, like kv, etc, and you know who said some BS about how he has been in business long enough to know better than to tell that stuff...

So if he won't tell you what the motor kv is, how do you know what voltage and gearing to use? Thats retarded!!!!:p

Edit: I guess that means he want to sell to all the noobs with no clue what they are doing. I bought my first BL system from him back when I had no clue, I just wanted ''brushless''. He sent me the wrong motor and then told me he was out of the motor I ordered and that the motor he sent was an upgrade. It technically was a more expensive motor, but it was the wrong kv for my application. He just sent whatever he had laying around that wasn't selling for him. I just didn't know any better so he got the best of me. I would never go back.

Anyway, that kind of attitude will catch up to him in the long run. Here I am 5 BL systems later and he didn't get a penny of the business.:D

Thats why I shop w/ Mike now. He makes sure you get what you need. Not just what he happens to have!

Sorry... Rant over...

jtracker 10.12.2006 09:59 PM

Do I need to run a ubec??

Finnster 10.12.2006 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by squeeforever
Yea, FD sells the XLT motors. If I'm not mistaken, thats some of his (you know who) BS. I have heard that there nothing but a Nemesis that he relabled....Cemetarygates called you know who and asked a few questions, like kv, etc, and you know who said some BS about how he has been in business long enough to know better than to tell that stuff...

Yeah, that's what I was thinking when I was looking at thier LST that was "featured" recently. It also said on 4s that the motor and 9920 were too hot to touch after just one pack.. :031: Way too hot IMO.
I would bet its a 7XL or so. I'm sure he would just set it up to get the highest #'s and not worry about reliability. His work is shoddy and lame IMO.


But if you got the motor cheap, congrats. I hope it works, but you may be looking at a really hot setup. You're going to have to be real careful until you figure the whole thing out. You're really going to test the MM...

BrianG 10.12.2006 11:24 PM

What kind of reputable company would try to sell a product without wanting to specify the specs??? Not to mention re-labeling it.

It's like going to a Ford dealership to buy a car and they won't tell you anything about it (except that it's a Ford) or let you test drive it, and only after you buy it do you find out it's actually a Chevy with a Ford sticker over the logo.

That's no way to run a business and expect to retain a client base. I hope for his sake that Squee is mistaken (but I doubt it).

aqwut 10.13.2006 06:21 AM

sorry to stray off topic.. but I agree the guy at (FD) is not a person I would trust anymore... I order a 3100XL, he had none in stock to he sent a 2400XL(without my knowledge)... Then recommends me 18.61 escs for a Hi-Amp 5 Turn 1930 motor.. no wonder I fried 4 of those esc .. This was way back in 2002-2003, when I was a noob..I actually thought it was my fault..... Just not a trust worthy guy... I do agree that the XLT motors are probably just Nemesis motors....... Let us know how the MM esc work out for that beast using 12000 MAh M.A. Cells... A fan is a definate Yes!.... :)

neweuser 10.13.2006 09:08 AM

I was actually looking at getting stuff from him last year. Man, glad i never did!!!! When I called him he seemed kinda wishy washy about things and really didn't provide much info. So i decided to go with the HV Maxx originally! Well, can't say that was better, because I still am here!

Edit: but at least Novak has customer service!

auto2 10.13.2006 09:13 AM

hey Brian, funny you used a car analogy.:-) unfortunately although you have a very valid point with FD the car thing won't work.LOL!
In 79 Chevy ran out of 305 Chevy motors so they stuck 307 olds motor in Chevy's. and the list goes on and on. BUT I am not happy with FD at all.
Been waiting for a solid pinion for what? 2 months now." Oh I promise; K#$%$ will call you asap. Ha HA HA!!!

BrianG 10.13.2006 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by auto2
hey Brian, funny you used a car analogy.:-) unfortunately although you have a very valid point with FD the car thing won't work.LOL!
In 79 Chevy ran out of 305 Chevy motors so they stuck 307 olds motor in Chevy's...

Of course someone would have to come up with a "yeah but". ;)

jtracker 10.13.2006 10:41 AM

so do i need to run a ubec?

Finnster 10.13.2006 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jtracker
so do i need to run a ubec?

A UBEC or Rx pack without a doubt, and a fan more than likely. If you get a 5v fan you can run it off the Ubec for Rx pack

Serum 10.13.2006 11:12 AM

Yeah, you better use one!

that fd was the reason i asked.. not intended to start a riot.. Just wondering why people buy from him and come here for advice.

Serum 10.13.2006 11:15 AM

arh.. Sorry, the last thing I want is that you don't feel welcome here. You are more than welcome, to post any question you have got..

But these motors.. No kv or what so ever.. that's not selling technique, that's selling to make a buck.

auto2 10.13.2006 12:07 PM

serum, simple answer to your question.

question-how do you know which is the best resturant in town?

answer- try them all

only a fool goes back to get sick a second time.LOL!

Serum 10.13.2006 12:11 PM

Or ask your friend who is a cook, and who has the same taste like you..

squeeforever 10.13.2006 12:57 PM

If I'm not mistaken, Nbacznmaster was the one that found out that the XLT motors were Nemesis but relabled. I think he saw that there was a second label under the outer and pulled it off, yada yada, and asked here if he got ripped off or something and a few other members confermed that they were just relabled Nemesis'.

auto2 10.13.2006 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Serum
Or ask your friend who is a cook, and who has the same taste like you..


ha ha I went to burger king cause the food was almost free. i need a good steak....:-)

jtracker 10.13.2006 01:43 PM

well i guess i should have done more research then and not bought that motor. :( Anyways since I got it I will try it and if it doesn't work I will get one from mike. I'm new to the bigger brushless stuff but not to 1/10 brushless. I have had novak brushless and now have 2 mamba brushless systems. I will be running a fan on the esc and maybe one on the motor. The motor is at the post office right now and I will be getting it tonight and see how it does. Thanks,
Justinl
Also what is the difference between using a ubec and receiver pack??

jhautz 10.13.2006 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jtracker
well i guess i should have done more research then and not bought that motor. :( Anyways since I got it I will try it and if it doesn't work I will get one from mike. I'm new to the bigger brushless stuff but not to 1/10 brushless. I have had novak brushless and now have 2 mamba brushless systems. I will be running a fan on the esc and maybe one on the motor. The motor is at the post office right now and I will be getting it tonight and see how it does. Thanks,
Justinl
Also what is the difference between using a ubec and receiver pack??

UBEC is lighter and gives a consistant voltage and you dont have to charge it. Either will work fine. Its just that the UBEC leaves one less battery pack to charge.


Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever
If I'm not mistaken, Nbacznmaster was the one that found out that the XLT motors were Nemesis but relabled. I think he saw that there was a second label under the outer and pulled it off, yada yada, and asked here if he got ripped off or something and a few other members confermed that they were just relabled Nemesis'.

I thought nemisis motors were just relabled Feigao's w/blue cans. So the XLT is just a relabled, relabled motor:005:

squeeforever 10.13.2006 02:25 PM

Something like that....There all pretty much the same...

aqwut 10.13.2006 02:45 PM

I don't think the motors are bad.... I just don't trust the guy who's sellin'... :)

Serum 10.13.2006 02:55 PM

sssshhh, please don's start a riot here.. It's not worth it.

aqwut 10.13.2006 03:02 PM

:) No riot... It's all good... The Nemesis are good motors.... ;)

Finnster 10.13.2006 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jtracker
well i guess i should have done more research then and not bought that motor. :( Anyways since I got it I will try it and if it doesn't work I will get one from mike. I'm new to the bigger brushless stuff but not to 1/10 brushless. I have had novak brushless and now have 2 mamba brushless systems. I will be running a fan on the esc and maybe one on the motor. The motor is at the post office right now and I will be getting it tonight and see how it does. Thanks,
Justinl
Also what is the difference between using a ubec and receiver pack??


Yeah, its not that the Feigaos/Nemesis are bad motors, its just w/ FD's stupid XLTs you have no idea what you are getting, so how do you plan for your project? With Mike you know exactly what you are getting, no BS, and a great forum to come to for advice before and after you buy. (prolly cheaper too)


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