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GorillaMaxx360 11.18.2006 12:25 AM

Neu vs. Lehner
 
Ok i have 300 bucks to sepnd on a motor i was trying to decide between a lehner 1950 or a neu 1515. Second question what is the benifit of the added bonus of the high amp draw on the lehner. Which motor would you guys recommend. Cheaper is good but is it worth it to pay an extra 60+ bucks for the lehner over the neu. Also i am looking with a motor that will last a while, run cool, long runtimes, and fast, i will be bashing 70% and racing 30%. Your opinions will be greatly apreciated. Thanks

BrianG 11.18.2006 01:01 AM

Many people have been very happy with the Neu motors and are basically in the same class quality-wise. The Neu is a 4 pole motor so you have to use an ESC capable of driving a 4 pole motor: MGM, Quark, Mamba Max. The BK ESCs will not work well at all from various reports. It is also bigger in diameter by a little.

GriffinRU 11.18.2006 01:35 AM

Both motors are great but Neu has holes for cooling. Keeping dirt and dust out of motor is very important.

Artur

Serum 11.18.2006 03:54 AM

The neu is a 4 poler and will have got more torque, it are very nice motors. I am impressed by their quality.

captain harlock 11.18.2006 05:06 AM

Serum, how strong is the Neu in comparison to the Lehners?
Is there that much of torque and power?
I might get a motor for my touring car and buggy.

coolhandcountry 11.18.2006 09:04 AM

I like both motors. It is a hard decesion really. I have few minor quarks
about both. Nothing major. Both are great. 4 pole or 2 pole
what esc you have?
Just a few things to think about.

captain harlock 11.18.2006 01:33 PM

I only have a 1950, 1930, and 1920 and other few kontronik motors. I've never tried the Neu.

Do you think it would be worth it?

squeeforever 11.18.2006 02:47 PM

I think it would be...

Finnster 11.18.2006 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolhandcountry
I like both motors. It is a hard decesion really. I have few minor quarks
about both. Nothing major. Both are great. 4 pole or 2 pole
what esc you have?
Just a few things to think about.


What were the querks of both?

coolhandcountry 11.18.2006 10:57 PM

Haveing holes in the neu kind of sucks. You need to find a way to block them.
I have found the neu runs different. It is not as smooth all the time as the lmt.
I have had the neu run backwards for a split second Not sure why.

The lehner has shally mounting holes. That was only draw back to it.

squeeforever 11.18.2006 11:35 PM

Keep in mind that Mike has designed a cover for the end of the Neu's...

tallyram 11.19.2006 12:00 AM

all this talk of neu! i own a lmt 1950, flawless! no need to try something else. i love this motor so much that i couldn't sell it. neu seems to have a nice motor, but i just don't understand some of you guys. i remember some of you guys coming down on the pletty's(4 pole) pretty hard. now mike carries a 4 pole motor and everyone loves them. seems funny! not trying to pick at anyone, just calling it as i see it.

GriffinRU 11.19.2006 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tallyram
all this talk of neu! i own a lmt 1950, flawless! no need to try something else. i love this motor so much that i couldn't sell it. neu seems to have a nice motor, but i just don't understand some of you guys. i remember some of you guys coming down on the pletty's(4 pole) pretty hard. now mike carries a 4 pole motor and everyone loves them. seems funny! not trying to pick at anyone, just calling it as i see it.

Every motor has its benefits.
More poles more torque less RPM
Less poles less torque more RPM
Efficiency in the middle around 30000RPM :)
Plettenberg like Aveox has very strong magnetic friction, while NeuMotors designed to have less.
Motors with less poles have a broader RPM range with good efficiency and less sensitive to timing, while motors with more poles have opposite.

Artur

coolhandcountry 11.19.2006 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GriffinRU
Every motor has its benefits.
More poles more torque less RPM
Less poles less torque more RPM
Efficiency in the middle around 30000RPM :)
Plettenberg like Aveox has very strong magnetic friction, while NeuMotors designed to have less.
Motors with less poles have a broader RPM range with good efficiency and less sensitive to timing, while motors with more poles have opposite.

Artur

so the neu is better than the pletts.

Hayden 11.19.2006 09:09 AM

If its for speed the lehner has it all just look a the world record rc boat team jag scored over 140mph just been broken this month I think. I was looking at the charts and most of the boats used lehners the top 3 of one chart where lehners but the rest didn’t even come close. What about that 110mph rc car that was lehner too.
I had a lehner and it was great I put a apc prop on it and got the tips of the propeller to break the sound barrier and it screamed the prop was falling to bits lol
I have had no experience with any other motors so thats all I can say is do your research:) i would imagine both are good in their own ways.

jhautz 11.20.2006 06:26 PM

You really cant go wrong with either. I own both Lehner(1940) and Nue(1512 and 1515) and they are both top notch motors IMO. Neu was originally designed for air aplications. thats why the holes. Its no issue to cover the holes, but its a hassle and one of the downsides to the Neus. The lehner is just flat out an awesome motor. Powerfull and cool running. Just wish it had a couple more mm in the mounting hole depth.

I actually like the feeling of the Nue slightly better. The low speed drivability on the Nue is smoother IMO. It just torques up nice smooth and you can actually drive it at a low speed very easily, but still has excellent snap when you want it to go.

The Lehner is smooth also, but I feel like it doesn't handle the low speed fine control quite as smoothly. It goes ok at low speed then kind of all the suden hits a spike in the power band.

This could be just my setup, but thats my input as well. And then again... Who wants to drive at low speed anyway???:007:


Both are top notch and you will be happy with whatever you choose.

captain harlock 11.20.2006 06:39 PM

Excuse me , Hayden, but the 110mph speedrun you're talking about was made with a sensor based motor(Aveox), using 24 cells in a pan car.
I believe the Lehner can do much more speed than the Aveox with the same setup.
The Neu was used by Nick Case in a dirt oval machine with the help of LIPO and 160mph speed run was at hand. I wonder what speed he could've achieved with the same size Lehner motor with the same number of lipo cells and controller?!!

Hayden 11.21.2006 08:56 AM

i was talking about this car correct me if I’m wrong I’m not 100% sure but it looks like a lehner to me :018:
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captain harlock 11.21.2006 12:10 PM

Cant see the pic...
Probably you're talking about another car, then.

neweuser 11.21.2006 02:45 PM

Looks like a lehner, but it's hard to tell when it's on it's side.

Dafni 11.21.2006 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neweuser
Looks like a lehner, but it's hard to tell when it's on it's side.

:032:

The sticker kinda gives it away, though.

Serum 11.21.2006 03:49 PM

Yeah, and the >HIGH-AMP< tells more than enough..

That 'kinda' is an understatement.. :p

captain harlock 11.21.2006 04:46 PM

What does the car look like?
I really cant see the pic, BTW.

GorillaMaxx360 11.23.2006 06:54 PM

ok guys i was looking at motos and as you know i decided to go with the lehner. Now i know this motor is one of the best and i still plan on getting it, but if i dont end up getting as much money for christmas as i hope would there be and alternitive of motors. I want a motor that will work on 4s (using quark 125b) and will be reliable and smooth. I would obviously like it to run cool but i will be getting the rc monster heatsink, so if it does not run as cool as i would like would this and or another heatsink keep the motor cool enough for everyday use. I was looking at this motor http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...ao5408L&cat=20 but i dont know if it is good or not. I saw in an rc driver magizine the got a revo up to 48 with this motor and 4lipos. Is this motor good will it do those speeds and will it run smooth and cool(with the right heatsink(s) ) also if you have a better recommendation for a good motor under $150 bucks that will meet my needs. thank you

squeeforever 11.23.2006 06:58 PM

The L motors are a thing of the past. An 7XL will definately be the best bet for 4S.

GorillaMaxx360 11.23.2006 07:06 PM

would the 7xl do fairly well in my maxx. would it reach 45 and would it stay semi-cool with the rc monster heatsink. does the 7xl run smooth.

coolhandcountry 11.23.2006 08:06 PM

If you running the quark 125. You could choose a neu motor.
The problem i seen with 8L is heat issues on a mt.

GorillaMaxx360 11.23.2006 08:26 PM

i would chose neu but i am looking for a motor under 150. so do you think the 7xl with heatsink, 4s lipo, and rc monster heatsink would run good.

Serum 11.24.2006 01:25 PM

yes, it runs perfect.

Nick 11.24.2006 01:33 PM

7XL is a faaaaaaantastic motor.

Serum 11.24.2006 01:42 PM

Yeah, impossible to beat for that price!

GorillaMaxx360 11.24.2006 01:48 PM

Nice thanks a ton you saved me lots of mula does rc mike sell these i dont think i saw them in the store and they are 90 bucks right.

smhertzog 11.24.2006 01:49 PM

The 7xl is the best bang for the buck motor money can buy lmt and neu are better but at three times the price are they three times better? :032:

GorillaMaxx360 11.24.2006 01:54 PM

where can i get them does mike sell them i did not see them on the website.

coolhandcountry 11.24.2006 04:44 PM

If a c can motor will work. They don't require a heat clamp. Got the fins on
it to. Just a suggestion. He had one in stock.

GorillaMaxx360 11.25.2006 11:09 AM

when you say 7xl is this what you mean http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...540C_XL&cat=22 It apperas that this motor already has a heatsink so does that mean i will not need the cnc machined one because it will not fit.

neweuser 11.25.2006 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GorillaMaxx360
when you say 7xl is this what you mean http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...540C_XL&cat=22 It apperas that this motor already has a heatsink so does that mean i will not need the cnc machined one because it will not fit.

That is correct. The feigo motor doesn't require the CNC machined RC Monster heat sink.

jhautz 11.25.2006 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GorillaMaxx360
when you say 7xl is this what you mean http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...540C_XL&cat=22 It apperas that this motor already has a heatsink so does that mean i will not need the cnc machined one because it will not fit.

Yea, The older purple can Feigao motors required the heatsink/clamp, so do the Wanderer motors. The newer ''C'' can motors donnt require it. It wont even fit.

coolhandcountry 11.25.2006 03:03 PM

That was the one I was talking about. Not heatsink/ clamp required.
I think that is a L motor in pic. But you get the idea of looks.

BrianG 11.25.2006 03:27 PM

Does anyone have the dimensions of that motor? Specifically, total diameter, can length, and length of shaft. I was looking at a LMT or Neu for my buggy project, but the price to quality ratio is making me take a closer look at those finned Feigaos.


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