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coolhandcountry 11.21.2006 05:05 PM

How many cells for 36120?
 
I got me a 36120 coming back from bk. I have 4 3s limn packs setting around as well.
I was debating on putting them in 12s form. I was wondering if the 36120 could handle that man. It put it about the 50.4 volt range fully charged.
What motor would take that voltage and stay under 42000 rpm?
Should be crazy any way if it works.

Nick 11.21.2006 05:19 PM

12s... too cool but make sure you buy a Camcorder with the motor! :D

Serum 11.21.2006 05:23 PM

It's close to it's limits..

I guess with a not too hot motor it will manage.

BrianG 11.21.2006 05:48 PM

Well, 36 NiMH cells are 50.4v right off the charger (assuming about 1.4v/cell), which is the same as 12s lipos. I think it should work.

Assuming the nominal lipo cell voltage of 3.7v, that's 44.4v total. You'd need a motor with a kv of 946 or less.

Not even a LMT 1950/10 goes that low. If it gets too hard to find a inrunner, why not try an outrunner type motor? Those tend to have lower kvs...

sjcrss 11.21.2006 06:36 PM

a 1950 13t & up have a low enough kv rating...check out the link http://www.bk-electronics.com/catalo...oducts_id=1646

neweuser 11.21.2006 06:38 PM

you are chc, you are crazy! What are you thinking of throwin it in?

crazyjr 11.21.2006 06:47 PM

If its his mgt, i think he's going after Promod

neweuser 11.21.2006 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyjr
If its his mgt, i think he's going after Promod

That would be a cool challange! I think he would have to give up the biking for a while and get to working on the RC more! LOL, then he would be cheating on his bike! LOL:027: :005:

jhautz 11.21.2006 06:52 PM

1950/14 or 15 would be good, or a Feigao XL 18 or 19.

Those might be kinda hard to find though. Maybe a large scale flyers websight or something.

coolhandcountry 11.21.2006 09:19 PM

I have found a 2240 10t. I can change the windings to a 17 turn I think. It has a kv of 870. I wonder how the power would be. :D
I am thinking of staying with the 1950 size cans. If not 22 series. Unsure of
vehicle at this time. Do you think would have heating problems if gearing right?

boss 302 11.22.2006 12:09 AM

try the 2240 that would be insanely powerful on 12s just get a vid of it while you are making the run

crazyjr 11.22.2006 04:17 AM

Hey Leroy, if you need the 2250/10, let me know. I'm not using it right now

starscream 11.22.2006 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolhandcountry
I have found a 2240 10t. I can change the windings to a 17 turn I think. It has a kv of 870. I wonder how the power would be. :D
I am thinking of staying with the 1950 size cans. If not 22 series. Unsure of
vehicle at this time. Do you think would have heating problems if gearing right?

Right on CC! Thats what I'm talkin about :017:
Why mess with 6S when you can go 12S
I'd recommend sticking with the 1950 series if you can.

coolhandcountry 11.22.2006 11:15 AM

I got a diff mount for a 1950 or xl can. I am thinking of going with like a 1950 17 turn motor. That give me a little extra cushion. Any one know of a 12s lvc. 36 volt minium for cut off. HEHE! Sounds like fun.

sjcrss 11.22.2006 11:16 AM

Your insane DUDE....best of luck...lol

coolhandcountry 11.22.2006 11:30 AM

Ok! I think the 1950 17turn is what the choice may be for motor. I get 10 t done
in the other configuration for a 17turn. It is about 769 kv. I will have some comfort zone on the 42k rpm limit. The amp draw shouldn't be to bad at
this voltage. I have a diff holder for a 19 series as well.
Thanks larry for the offer but the 2250 10t is to much kv. Would need to change it out to a 17t configuration. I am a little worried about esc taking the voltage. If it works. I think I will be happy. Maybe. :D

Tom F 11.22.2006 11:42 AM

I would pay to see this.

Those Apogee cells are brilliant - With that setup you would be pushing 3.2kW+ continuous with ease, I imagine 5kW would be possible in bursts :D

jhautz 11.22.2006 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolhandcountry
I got a diff mount for a 1950 or xl can. I am thinking of going with like a 1950 17 turn motor. That give me a little extra cushion. Any one know of a 12s lvc. 36 volt minium for cut off. HEHE! Sounds like fun.

The 1950/10 can be reconfigured to be a 1950/17 by changing the D pattern to the S pattern of wiring. Getting a 1950/10 is easy. Mike has them instock. Then you could use it for a more conventional application in the future. By changing it back to the D pattern.

Instructions for reconfiguring are here.
http://www.lehner-motoren.com/downlo...use_s10-22.doc


EDIT: Just ignore me. I didn't finish reading the tread before posting this. You already knew this.:010:

Nick 11.22.2006 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolhandcountry
I got a diff mount for a 1950 or xl can. I am thinking of going with like a 1950 17 turn motor. That give me a little extra cushion. Any one know of a 12s lvc. 36 volt minium for cut off. HEHE! Sounds like fun.

I have a 12s LVC, it cost me $20, 3v a cell cut off. Here you are:
http://www.dimensionengineering.com/LipoShield.htm

captain harlock 11.22.2006 02:05 PM

Is it possible to use two MambaMaxs to power one HV motor?
Its possible to use 10s easily with such a setup.

Nick 11.22.2006 02:27 PM

I don't think you can run 2 circuits into 1 motor? I would of thought the 2 ESCs would conflict. Intresting idea though.

coolhandcountry 11.22.2006 02:57 PM

by running two mambas you would only have a 5s voltage. but in 2p form

captain harlock 11.22.2006 03:40 PM

But I'm sure there might be a way. How about joining the wires together from both controllers?

sjcrss 11.22.2006 03:51 PM

i don't really think you can, because the controller pulses the motor to find the center point, and they actually send info back & forth to each other, so if you have 2 controllers trying to pulse the motor , I think it will not work

coolhandcountry 11.22.2006 04:48 PM

I am worried the esc won't take the 12s lipo. I am confident upto 10s. I have to make sure on the caps voltage.

coolhandcountry 11.22.2006 09:15 PM

This system will be going on what I decide in this thread.
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4565


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