RC-Monster Forums

RC-Monster Forums (https://www.rc-monster.com/forum/index.php)
-   Brushless (https://www.rc-monster.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=12)
-   -   throttle issue (https://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4920)

ReDrUm_Racer 12.16.2006 09:58 PM

throttle issue
 
well today i was driving my brushless hyper 7 and it was running like a champ. I started driving it up a hill and when i stopped and tried to reverse, the throttle did not respond. I walked over and looked at it, and all the connections were fine, but the throttle did not work anymore. The steering still works fine, so I know at least the bec works. I checked over the motor connections, they seem fine, the rx connection is fine, and the batteries obviously are fine because the steering works. Btw I'm using the integrated bec in a 9918. Any help would be great!

:002:

coolhandcountry 12.16.2006 11:03 PM

Do you know the temps? If you let it set would it start back?

ReDrUm_Racer 12.16.2006 11:09 PM

Yeah, i had only been running it for 1 min or so and everything was cool. I let it sit for a few minutes and it still wouldnt work...

BrianG 12.16.2006 11:12 PM

Try hooking the ESC to the steering output of the receiver and see if you get anything (you'll have to use the steering to move forward/backwards though). That'll at least eliminate the receiver as a problem. Sounds like something else though honestly...

ReDrUm_Racer 12.17.2006 12:45 AM

ugh... i hope i don't have a dead esc or motor... I'll try that thing tomorrow.

BrianG 12.17.2006 01:33 AM

As you said, the steering servo still has power so you know the batteries, bec in the ESC, CH1 on the receiver, and all wiring in between is fine. That leaves CH2 on the receiver, the ESC motor output, the motor itself, and all the wiring in between as the problem.

You could also check the red jumper on the ESC. I don't remember what the ESC does if it comes off or has a bad connection, but it's something to look at.

Usually, it's a bad connection somewhere. Even though everything looks ok, you could still have a bad solder joint on the motor connectors.

Does the motor beep when the system is powered up?

If yes, the ESC is probably ok, but it could still be a connection issue since it requires a lot less power to beep the motor than to drive it. Resolder the motor connectors or directly solder the wires together.

If no, then you could have an ESC or motor problem, or a connection problem.

Between the motor and ESC, I would suspect the ESC first since that is where there is a lot more things to go wrong. The motor is just a bunch of coils. If one coil burnt out, you should still see a little movement on the working coils.

ReDrUm_Racer 12.17.2006 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG
As you said, the steering servo still has power so you know the batteries, bec in the ESC, CH1 on the receiver, and all wiring in between is fine. That leaves CH2 on the receiver, the ESC motor output, the motor itself, and all the wiring in between as the problem.

You could also check the red jumper on the ESC. I don't remember what the ESC does if it comes off or has a bad connection, but it's something to look at.

Usually, it's a bad connection somewhere. Even though everything looks ok, you could still have a bad solder joint on the motor connectors.

Does the motor beep when the system is powered up?

If yes, the ESC is probably ok, but it could still be a connection issue since it requires a lot less power to beep the motor than to drive it. Resolder the motor connectors or directly solder the wires together.

If no, then you could have an ESC or motor problem, or a connection problem.

Between the motor and ESC, I would suspect the ESC first since that is where there is a lot more things to go wrong. The motor is just a bunch of coils. If one coil burnt out, you should still see a little movement on the working coils.

No, it doesnt beep, its basically like the motor is disconnected and the throttle connection is removed. Only steering works and throttle does absolutely nothing and the motor has no power at all. I'll check all these things tomorrow and let you know what happens. Thanks.

ReDrUm_Racer 12.17.2006 01:43 PM

Alright... the radio's fine... :(

jhautz 12.17.2006 05:35 PM

Does the esc smell burnt?

ReDrUm_Racer 12.17.2006 05:53 PM

nope.

BrianG 12.17.2006 06:09 PM

Check the red programming jumper. And really check the motor wire to ESC connections/solder joints as well as the battery connection.

If those look ok, it looks like something is wrong with the ESC or motor. How long have you had them?

ReDrUm_Racer 12.17.2006 06:28 PM

I've had them for a couple months, but I bought them used, so I dont know. I'll be talking to the guy i bought them from though. I'll check the solder joints now though.

BrianG 12.17.2006 06:32 PM

Yeah, it's kinda unusual for a motor or ESC to just "go bad" with no warning. You'd think something would get hot or a little puff of smoke would warn you. IIRC, there was a similar case like this a while back and I think it turned out to be a motor to ESC connection issue even though everything looked fine.

Good luck. And if all else fails, at least there is the holiday sale for the 9920 going on right now...

ReDrUm_Racer 12.17.2006 07:59 PM

I had only been driving it for 30 secs or so so I doubt it was overheated or anything. If there was smoke i would have noticed and it doesnt smell like smoke... Anyway I resoldered everything and still nothing... :-(

BrianG 12.17.2006 08:05 PM

See if you can carefully cut the heatshrink off the ESC and look for burnt or discolored components. Check the motor wire solder joints to the circuit board while you are there. If you don't really know what to look for, take some hi-res pics of various views of the ESC and post them if you can.

ReDrUm_Racer 12.17.2006 08:10 PM

alright, if there is any warrentee on the esc, will that void it?

BrianG 12.17.2006 08:22 PM

I'm not sure. I wouldn't think so; it's not like you're modding the circuit or anything, but you never know. I'd find out about the warranty first. If it is expired, then you have nothing to lose.

ReDrUm_Racer 03.17.2007 09:57 PM

Well, I know this thread is from a long time ago, but I never replied again and I'm starting to get interested in fixing it again. Well I opened up the heatshrink and found that one of the black square box things was cracked. it's a little circuitry thing, I really dont know what its called, but whatever. Is there anyway to fix this?

BrianG 03.17.2007 10:13 PM

LOL, well one of the "black square box things" could be a few things. Do you have a pic?

jhautz 03.18.2007 03:38 AM

If a component on the board is cracked and thats all that is wrong I'm sure BK can fix it. But you will need to send it in, and BK isnt exactly known for fast service.

If you are going to send it in for repair, you might consider buying a new one to get you up and running while the other is repaired. Then when the fixed one comes back you can sell it on ebay to recover some of your cash.

What kind of batteries and how many cells are you running? The mamba Max might be a very nice option at $140.

canadianrcist 03.18.2007 06:09 PM

yeh, i told sean to get a mamba max.

hes only running 12 cells of 3800mah.

but he dosent want to spend money till he fixes other things :(

ReDrUm_Racer 03.21.2007 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadianrcist
yeh, i told sean to get a mamba max.

hes only running 12 cells of 3800mah.

but he dosent want to spend money till he fixes other things :(

yeah, I gotta get some more ram and maybe a whole new computer soon, so Idk how soon I'll be getting this fixed... Btw I bought this used, so do you think they will still fix it?

jhautz 03.21.2007 09:31 PM

They will fix it.... But they will likely charge for the repair. Its probably not going to be under warantee if you bought it used.

ReDrUm_Racer 03.22.2007 09:59 PM

any ideas how much it might cost?


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:43 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.