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killarevo 04.26.2005 10:45 PM

FlexTek titanium suspension
 
has anybody tried or heard anything about the Flex Tek titanium suspension?

Serum 04.27.2005 01:54 AM

on beatyourtruck.com is a review.

I personally think that they flex too much, i don't know if you keep your cvd's straight with those arms.

Rcbros 04.27.2005 02:41 AM

They are local here in Oregon. I'm trying to get a set to race with. If I do I'll let you know.
I was going to sell them but only have till the end of May to do so because then there going big.

killarevo 04.27.2005 10:02 AM

serum, have you used them or seen them used?

Serum 04.27.2005 10:16 AM

No, i read the review on beatyourtruck and watched the movies.

I think it can absorb a serious impact, but have you seen how tight a cvd is in the UE diffcups? I think it will bent if you crash onto something. The cvd will be pushed inside the cup to far, and if it does, the cvd isn't able to make a large angle anymore.

It is a fantastic arm though, to absorb impacts.

Like i said 'i think' i don't know it for sure, but look at the movies that are on BYT, you'll see that the arms, when they flex get shorter. And when they get shorter, they will push in the drivecups further, and they want to make an angle in that cup as well. I just haven't got a bulletproof idea on them. Those arms will hold, but will your cvd/drivecup hold.. That is my question.

If you have got an impact that would ruin your cvd with these, i don't know what the aluminum arms would look like though.


It could work on a light truck, but how is it in a heavy truck?

killarevo 04.27.2005 10:25 AM

i have copied some of your questions and have sent them to Flex Tek to get an answer,willl post when i recieve them...thanks

Serum 04.27.2005 10:33 AM

Okay!

Let us know!

I don't think that they will admit anything though.

killarevo 04.27.2005 11:14 AM

well, my first question was about the flex and here is their answer:

In regards to the flex of the arms and the video you might have seen, what you do not see in the video is the aspect of an 18" cheater bar being attached to the end of the arm. The video shows the extreme flexing ability of the material and our design. You would never see this on an installed truck as forces are never even close to what the video shows. Our arms are designed to flex upon an impact and absorb the shock thus eliminating some of that shock into the rest of the vehicle. In the direction of suspension travel the arm design is very rigid so more power is transferred to the ground where you want it. Hope this clarifies any concerns that you might have.

Serums questions followed and i will post as soon as i recieve.

Serum 04.27.2005 11:26 AM

That explains quite a thing.

I think those are nice arms then.

Serum 04.27.2005 11:40 AM

For those interested, here is the answer i got from them on the weight;

Upperarm is .074 pounds.
lowerarm is .092 pounds.


killarevo 04.27.2005 11:44 AM

how does that compare to the stock arms?

Serum 04.27.2005 11:46 AM

Upperarm is .074 pounds.
lowerarm is .092 pounds.

times 4 = a total of .664 lbs (they claim that's about the same as stock, but i don't know the weight on the stockers)

My racer X weights .620 (including the rear connection thing)

They weight about the same, only due to the flex i think you can use titanium pivotballs without braking them fast.

I personally like the Gmaxx geometry over this flexing feature.

That is unique. THey come with the shocktowers as well (loooooooww profile...)

Rcbros 04.27.2005 01:26 PM

FYI guys. I'm purchasing a set for my Race maxx. I like the look of them in person and they seem great. Plus no one runs them so why not me?

I'll let you know what there like when I get to really test them out.

killarevo 04.27.2005 01:32 PM

ya, i went for them too(for my cf g-maxx), on ebay!.......................sweeeeeet!

killarevo 04.27.2005 02:04 PM

the lastest word from Flex Tek:

As mentioned the video shows an extreme case of flexing the FlexTek arm. The amount of leverage that is being placed on the arm in that video is substantial let alone you really had to reef on the bar to make it flex. The everyday operation of a Tmaxx will never excert that kind of force into the arm. There is not enough mass in the truck to do so. In addition the drive line has the ability to slide within itself and this inconjunction with flex of the arms should compensate for huge stress being put into the CVD. Aluminum arms will not hold a candle to FlexTek. We have in excess of 4 times the strength with the added ability to flex. Aluminum will simply bend or break under the same circumstances. It comes back to the modulus of elasticity of the material. Hope this answers your questions.

RC-Monster Mike 05.02.2005 11:15 PM

Got a link to these arms?

Rcbros 05.02.2005 11:22 PM

http://www.flextekrc.com/index.shtml there you go my friend.

The guys are really nice! and local! so I think I'm going to pick up a set to support my local companies! I guess lunsford is local to me too!

C.H.U.D. 05.04.2005 10:45 AM

I'm considering a set of these for the front. The stock lower arms seem to have a break point where the hinge pin slides through the lower arm. Perhaps w/ a pair of FlexTek on the front the energy will be distributed more evenly between the titanium hinge pings, the lower arm, and the bulkhead...thus preventing lower arm breakage.

Anybody else have the same or similar experience w/ lower arm breakage on your Maxx?

And yes, I'm a relative n00b (*the* contributing factor). But getting more smooth on the jumps everyday... ;)

Rcbros 05.06.2005 07:53 PM

Just got mine in the mail today boys and girls. I'll put them on the truck tonight.

Superemaxx89 05.07.2005 05:57 PM

pictures?

Rcbros 05.07.2005 07:17 PM

I'll get them up as soon as I can.

I have about 4 maxx's across the garage and then I just got a Revo lmao. Its been crazy this weekened. I'll have them before sunday.

They look sweet!! And the flex shown in the videos is near impossible.

Rcbros 05.11.2005 10:02 AM

Well here they are
http://www.rcbros.com/gallery_show.asp?GID=14

Truck looks like crap I know i'm sorry. Never wash aluminum in a dishwasher only black plastic!! lol lessen learned.

Serum 05.11.2005 01:08 PM

Your arms look nice!

On the BYT pictures, they look more black, yours look a lot more like titanium!

C.H.U.D. 05.12.2005 10:29 AM

When are ya gonna drop it off a cliff so we can see how they hold up? :D

Serum 05.12.2005 10:36 AM

Just let him drive it.. Its about the same punishemnt if i look to his g-maxx lowerplate.. (yeah, dishwasher.. Right...) It's pure abuse.. ;)

At last, someone who knows how to use a nice build truck.. (i get blamed by friends, for not using mine propperly....) 'It's BUILD for that, don't you know?!!?'

C.H.U.D. 05.12.2005 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Serum

. . .

At last, someone who knows how to use a nice build truck.. (i get blamed by friends, for not using mine propperly....) 'It's BUILD for that, don't you know?!!?'


You drive your truck on an oval w/ bowling bumpers? ;)

Serum 05.12.2005 11:14 AM

Obviously not seen the movie i posted.. ;) here it is.. It's got more to do with my friends than with my drivingstyle..

No, but my friends think that it's needed to pull 10G in a spaceship, when your doing something regullar on a saterday afternoon..

Making a water rocket was nice, on 9 bar (120psi) suddenly the idea of an 200 bar (2666psi) waterrocket was born.. I'd try to explain that it would become liquid and rather dangerous.. (COOL LIQIUD IS NEEDED RIGHT??!?!) Don't even think trying talk this plan out of his head.. It's got to be tested, no matter what the theory is, its the practice that counts..

It's just how high you aim..

auto2 06.22.2005 08:04 AM

question about these arms;

4 times stronger than aluminum? so what happens to the hinge pins and chassis after an accident when the arms don't break?
Or said another way

with these arms where is the weak link? I remember watching mike removing a bent hinge pin a while back and it wasn't pretty.

maxxdude1234 06.22.2005 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by auto2
question about these arms;

4 times stronger than aluminum? so what happens to the hinge pins and chassis after an accident when the arms don't break?
Or said another way

with these arms where is the weak link? I remember watching mike removing a bent hinge pin a while back and it wasn't pretty.


Titanium is much more flexible than aluminium and can absorb impacts. Its basically like a very very very strong nylon...

Rcbros 06.22.2005 01:50 PM

BTW I used my Ti a-arms all last week and nothing but success. The arms work great!

Dafni 06.22.2005 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by auto2
I remember watching mike removing a bent hinge pin a while back and it wasn't pretty.

:L: A bent pin is one of the worst things to remove, especially out of an alloy bulk. Enjoy the hobby!

Serum 06.22.2005 05:49 PM

Yeah, i had to cut off one of my mini-t's A-arms to get rid of that darn little prick..


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