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crazyjr 01.26.2007 07:48 PM

Eagletree mystery for the Guru's
 
I got my Eagle tree Micro power E-logger today, I got it set up and hooked it into My Gmaxx/7XL/Mamba Max/5s Lipo combo to test and see how it would work. I ran it about a minute and went to download the info. Upon downloading and looking over the data, I noticed a peculiar spot in the data-logging. At 55.0 to 55.4 seconds the pack voltage jumped to 32 volts While it was pulling over 120amps. I'm not for sure what happened but for a split second it pulled over 5hp (max wattage was 4083) and nothing smoked, even run it after and nothing was amiss. Was it a glitch or did it really happen? the eagletree was close to motor and UBEC if that could have been what caused it. I'm not sure how to put the graph on here but anybody who wants to see the file I can Email you the file and let you see for yourself and draw your own conclusions. PM me you Email and i'll send it to you
thanks

MetalMan 01.26.2007 07:53 PM

I think that happened to me once before, too. Most likely it's just a glitch, but I don't think it's due to it being close to the motor/UBEC.

crazyjr 01.26.2007 08:14 PM

Ok i figured that, because i didn't see anywhere, during the run where it would indicate the power it showed (also didn't bust the stock Emaxx diffs), also the packs didn't sweel or feel hot and i know, if it got there, the MM probably would have smoked real good. Except for that spot, the test went good and i saw that the combo was pulling over 1900watts at a couple points (not bad for a $140 esc)

pinolelst 01.26.2007 09:08 PM

I see on eagle trees site that the micro logger will log "100 amps +-" and am curious how high it does really register.I already have the dashboard that I use for my aircraft altitude and airspeed and like the idea of logging power data as well.
thanks in advance

pinolelst

crazyjr 01.26.2007 09:56 PM

Mine shows 130 and on a couple real hard spots i got over 120amps on it, I wouldn't want to run real long at that level long, not sure what would happen

Serum 01.27.2007 03:55 AM

It can show much higer peaks that 100A pinolest.

Crazy, it must be a glitch.. what cells did you used on the 7XL? i know the 7XL on 5S is a hot setup.. it runs like crazy.. :)

phildogg 01.27.2007 09:50 AM

one question about the eagletree. I'm running 2 2s packs I just install the eagletree inline with one pack right? thanx bros.
phil

crazyjr 01.27.2007 12:05 PM

Serum,I'm running maxamps 8000mah in 2s and 3s packs



phildogg, If you are running a Gmaxx/G2R setup and running series just plug in the esc to the female deans plug and the end of the series connector from the batteries to the male plug (just like if you just plug in the batteries to the esc)

phildogg 01.27.2007 12:46 PM

but that would only moniter one battery is that what you means? on my esc I have 2 deans now connected in series. 1 male for each batt.. on a E-maxx. just plug in inbetween one batt? I don't yet have one but will soon and have been wondering about this.
phil

crazyjr 01.27.2007 01:37 PM

In that case you might have to monitro one battery and double the numbers, I'd ask eagletree about that

BrianG 01.27.2007 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyjr
In that case you might have to monitro one battery and double the numbers, I'd ask eagletree about that

If connecting the Eagletree on one set of batts in a series set, just double the voltage numbers, not the current numbers. ;)

crazyjr 01.27.2007 06:13 PM

Thanks wasn't sure how it worked

phildogg 01.27.2007 06:25 PM

how is your esc/ batts hooked up crazy?
phil

crazyjr 01.27.2007 07:51 PM

I got a mamba max with a single deans and a series connector for the batteries

BrianG 01.27.2007 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyjr
Thanks wasn't sure how it worked

Jusdging by the fact it has an input and output connector, the eagletree most likely measures current by placing a very small precision resistance in series with the load, something like 0.001 ohms. Then it measures the voltage drop across this tiny resistance and calculates the current. So, let's say it is a 0.001 ohm shunt, and you are drawing 100A, it would have 0.1v dropped across it. They keep it small so it has little effect on the overall voltage. Then, it measures the voltage like any normal voltmeter would.

So, if you put it inline with only one pack, it will measure half the full system voltage, but the current will be right (current is the same in a series circuit). Obviously, this will also affect your power readings. Just multiply the power by two as well...

crazyjr 01.28.2007 06:52 PM

I think i have a theory on the alledged glitch, Since it only happens for a split second and it has happened on two dofferent trucks (tryed it in My G2R and rc18 today) I think its back voltage and amps from the brakes. I tested it today in my G2R (9XL/mamba max/5s lipo and it did it again only it jumped to 33v and pulled 114 amps, with the rc18 (mamba 25/5400/6 cell1400IB) it didn't show a spike in volts but it showed a spike in amps(48). There was another mystery on the G2R i'm not sure about, actually two. The first one is the LVC in the mamba wasn't working as said it should, because the eagletree showed a couple times where it went under 15v (14.22V was the lowest), but that could have been a high amp hit that the lvc couldn't react quick enough to. the second mystery is that at a one the voltage of the 5s packs was under 1V at about 20 amps, pretty sure its a glitch But has anybody experienced it before?

crazyjr 01.29.2007 06:28 PM

I did some further testing today and am pretty sure it was a glitch, I run my G2R and did a run where i coasted till it stopped, then full brake till stopped and then partial brake till stopped and saw no anomalies In the data


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