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suicideneil 02.09.2007 08:19 PM

Another Gmaxx is born
 
After the sale of my beloved TXT-1, I used the money to fund the start of a Gmaxx project. My original inspiration was Juju's truck. Lie- I wanted a truck just like his so I practically cloned it, using some 'borrowed' images as a guide. Here is the result so far:-

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...eil/gmaxx2.jpg
Towerhobbies delivery of parts

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...eil/gmaxx3.jpg
G2 chassis and extension from Rc- monster; had to pay £20 for import duties...

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...eil/gmaxx4.jpg
Figured out why the HVmaxx wouldnt work after I pulled it from the TXT-1.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...eil/gmaxx5.jpg
Replaced wires with slightly thicker ones.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...eil/gmaxx6.jpg
Chassis was easy to build.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...eil/gmaxx7.jpg
Extension looks really nice.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...eil/gmaxx8.jpg
Different view, you can really see the curl of the lower plate edges.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...eil/gmaxx9.jpg
Yet to sort out the wiring properly.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...il/gmaxx10.jpg
I could have just bought some cheapo stock parts to make it runner at this stage.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...il/gmaxx11.jpg
But thats just not my style, not that I have any that is....

suicideneil 02.09.2007 08:29 PM

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...axx/gmaxx1.jpg
Bought some 3.3 diffs, 3.3 slider shafts, 3.3 axle carriers, 2.5 tie-rods, some emaxx slider to mod up for us as center shafts, and a GPM bellcrank.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...xx/gmaxx12.jpg
Added some integy gearbox collars for bling, and realised the tie rods were too short...

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...xx/gmaxx14.jpg
MSR4 piggyback shocks.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...xx/gmaxx15.jpg
G3 race skids arrived from Gorillamaxx.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...xx/gmaxx16.jpg
T-maxx shell turned into a Gmaxx shell....

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...xx/gmaxx17.jpg
It'll do for the time being.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...xx/gmaxx18.jpg
G3 front skid fitted, I have the rear skid & rear upper plate as spares.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...xx/gmaxx19.jpg
Tidied up the motor wires.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...xx/gmaxx20.jpg
And used an old shoe lace as trunking for the RX wiring....

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...xx/gmaxx21.jpg
Theres a clearer pic of the trunking- remarkably effective.

suicideneil 02.09.2007 08:36 PM

Thats it so far. I have some new 3.3 tie rods though- alot thicker than the older ones, and they came with the tall hollow balls so the bump-steer issue is sorted 'off the bat' (strange expression but makes perfect sense). Just waiting for my 2coolrc order of FLM bulks and Alloy hex adaptors, then I can order the Gmaxx suspension & single speed gearbox cover when their site reopens (and anything I like the look of while Im at it.) Cheers.

wfdfiremedic 02.09.2007 08:53 PM

Nice job!!!! I would use some sort of high performance battery connection though, such as Dean's Ultra plugs.

-Chris

squeeforever 02.09.2007 09:27 PM

You might want to see what new products they come out with before you order anything else...

capitol 02.09.2007 09:38 PM

I don't want to rain on your parade, but those piggy back shocks aren't all that great.
They're more show then go unfortunately.

suicideneil 02.09.2007 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wfdfiremedic
Nice job!!!! I would use some sort of high performance battery connection though, such as Dean's Ultra plugs.

-Chris

So far the tamiya connectors have been okay, but I know that they do tend to melt together under high loads. If that does happen, or they get too hot to touch but dont melt I will get some deans. Its just a pain to rewire 2 chargers and 6 battery packs = Im lazy.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever
You might want to see what new products they come out with before you order anything else...

My plan exactly. I have heard rumours on here about what stuff they're releasing, so I will wait until the GorillaMaxx site reopens before I order the suspension etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by capitol
I don't want to rain on your parade, but those piggy back shocks aren't all that great.
They're more show then go unfortunately.

Same could be said for most of Integy's stuff really, but:
1. They were on sale, $79.99 for all 8 = bargain.
2. I have talked to alot of people on other forums and they are okay for general use, and since I dont plan on launching my new toy off a cliff in a hurry, it should be fine for my needs. I can always stiffen them up and play with the oil/ spring settings so we'll see how it goes.
Cheers.

GorillaMaxx360 02.09.2007 11:51 PM

Nice man keep us up to date

Serum 02.10.2007 04:26 AM

Awesome conversion man!

Heading the right way for sure!! you could set for 4 shocks, saved some weight.

With the right batteries, that hvmaxx is a rocket. (if you manage to keep the truck light)

4S lipo would make it fast. the power from a brushless setup comes from the batteries, so if you use poor batteries, the speed will be poor. and the batteries you are using are most likely budget batteries. their internal resistance is high, meaning their voltage drops under the slightest loads.

What arms are you planning on using? aluminum or plastic?

Nice shell, looks very racy..

suicideneil 02.10.2007 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
Awesome conversion man!

Heading the right way for sure!! you could set for 4 shocks, saved some weight.

With the right batteries, that hvmaxx is a rocket. (if you manage to keep the truck light)

4S lipo would make it fast. the power from a brushless setup comes from the batteries, so if you use poor batteries, the speed will be poor. and the batteries you are using are most likely budget batteries. their internal resistance is high, meaning their voltage drops under the slightest loads.

What arms are you planning on using? aluminum or plastic?

Nice shell, looks very racy..

Lipo would be nice to have, but its just so stupidly expensive (over here anyway) its not an option. I have 2 pairs of cheapo batteries which arent all that great- maybe 5-10 minutes run time at best. But I do have a pair of Nosram 4000mah which kick butt, so I hope to get some more better ones in the future. Arms wise Im getting the new Gmaxx ones when their site reopens. As for shocks, I like the way 8 shocks look, and this isnt going to be a hardcore racer, so it should still look great and perform well enough to amuse me no a sunday afternnoon. I like the shell too- might get something cooler one day but I just love T-maxx shells....

Sylvester 02.10.2007 12:13 PM

Lookin good suicideneil!

jnev 02.10.2007 12:29 PM

Very nice. Do you plan on bashing or racing?

suicideneil 02.10.2007 12:39 PM

Neither as-such. In my lovely little town there are very very few people with Rc vehicles of any kind, so there's no community like that. I just like to go down the local park and drive up and down, fast. With the Gmaxx though it does kinda lend itself to both bashing and racing, so theres no reason why I cant build a small-ish ramp and do stuff like jumps, powerslides and back-flips (practice will be required though). I have the RPM wear plates so they should protect the shiney underside fom the worst of my driving- will have to see if I can find a centre skid that fits the gmaxx chassis.

mini-mad 02.12.2007 03:23 AM

great g-max!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
some questions :
-what gearing are you using?
-where have you fond the fan for the hv-maxx?

neweuser 02.12.2007 01:16 PM

Most HV's come with the fan, otherwise, you can find them on tower quite easily...or, any 5v fan would work as long as the width and stuff is compatible. They are almost to the 40mm i think maybe a tad smaller.

Procharged5.0 02.12.2007 02:28 PM

Nice G-Maxx Project! Keep the pictures coming!

suicideneil 02.12.2007 03:22 PM

Thanks, & I will when I get more parts.

yep, the fan came with the Hvmaxx, but it can be found here:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXJUR6&P=M

Its a bit expensive at 21 bucks, but it does come with a mounting bracket and lead that plugs straight into the esc. It is also a tiny bit smaller than 40mm, which means a pc fan would need a custom mount made and a power supply- tap into the battery wires or something....

As for gearing- at the moment its still locked into first and running 13/66. This will very likely change pretty quickly once Im up and running, but i would be greatful of suggestions for gearing; say 11lb gmaxx running hvmaxx and 14.4v-?

jollyjumper 02.12.2007 05:23 PM

nice, keep it up!;)

mini-mad 02.13.2007 03:22 AM

cool but i told of the fan who's on the motor:018:

suicideneil 02.13.2007 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mini-mad
cool but i told of the fan who's on the motor:018:

Oh right, I got that off ebay. A little heatsink with fan attached- heres one similar:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Gunmetal-alloy...QQcmdZViewItem

Mine doesnt really do much cooling, more-over it just looks cool. But I have plans.....

suicideneil 02.13.2007 05:29 PM

Ha-ha, I just had some great news! No, my 2coolrc order hasnt turned up yet- I just sent them an email though....

Long long ago I ordered some punisher shafts from RC4WD, and about 5 seconds after using them for the first time they broke (uj exploded- well documented elsewhere). So I contacted them and they said they would send me out a newer version, free of charge. So I waited, and waited, and waited and nothing came so I kept contacting them and they kept saying 'couple weeks'. After months of waiting I was told they were on their way..... and still nothing. So I just contacted them again and clearly stated the whole problem/situaition & that I dont have a TXt-1 anymore, so could I have a refund as the shafts must have been lost in transit. To my suprise not 5 minutes later I got the full $79.98 refunded- result! So that will be going towards some FLM shock towers or something else nice and shiney me thinks....

jollyjumper 02.13.2007 05:34 PM

that's the way to handle stuff!;)

Mike.L 02.13.2007 06:04 PM

Looking good so far everything is sweell other then the piggy backs

Sylvester 02.13.2007 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil
Ha-ha, I just had some great news! No, my 2coolrc order hasnt turned up yet- I just sent them an email though....

Long long ago I ordered some punisher shafts from RC4WD, and about 5 seconds after using them for the first time they broke (uj exploded- well documented elsewhere). So I contacted them and they said they would send me out a newer version, free of charge. So I waited, and waited, and waited and nothing came so I kept contacting them and they kept saying 'couple weeks'. After months of waiting I was told they were on their way..... and still nothing. So I just contacted them again and clearly stated the whole problem/situaition & that I dont have a TXt-1 anymore, so could I have a refund as the shafts must have been lost in transit. To my suprise not 5 minutes later I got the full $79.98 refunded- result! So that will be going towards some FLM shock towers or something else nice and shiney me thinks....

Wow! Seems like 2cool is a PITA to deal with.. they are off my list for sure!

jollyjumper 02.14.2007 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil
As for gearing- at the moment its still locked into first and running 13/66. This will very likely change pretty quickly once Im up and running, but i would be greatful of suggestions for gearing; say 11lb gmaxx running hvmaxx and 14.4v-?

22~25/1 in 2nd with <6" tires.

Procharged5.0 02.14.2007 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil
Ha-ha, I just had some great news! No, my 2coolrc order hasnt turned up yet- I just sent them an email though....

Long long ago I ordered some punisher shafts from RC4WD, and about 5 seconds after using them for the first time they broke (uj exploded- well documented elsewhere). So I contacted them and they said they would send me out a newer version, free of charge. So I waited, and waited, and waited and nothing came so I kept contacting them and they kept saying 'couple weeks'. After months of waiting I was told they were on their way..... and still nothing. So I just contacted them again and clearly stated the whole problem/situaition & that I dont have a TXt-1 anymore, so could I have a refund as the shafts must have been lost in transit. To my suprise not 5 minutes later I got the full $79.98 refunded- result! So that will be going towards some FLM shock towers or something else nice and shiney me thinks....

That's great news! happy to hear it!

neweuser 02.14.2007 02:36 PM

AS far as gearing with the HV, I was thinking that 72/13 would be good, but that depends on the HV you have, maybe BP can chime in on the gearing you should use. Also, I would get the single speed if you haven't already....

suicideneil 02.14.2007 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neweuser
AS far as gearing with the HV, I was thinking that 72/13 would be good, but that depends on the HV you have, maybe BP can chime in on the gearing you should use. Also, I would get the single speed if you haven't already....

I have the 6.5 version, bought it about 2 years ago and its still runs like clockwork. 72/13 sounds abit low, but I do have the emaxx tranny locked into first so I will no doubt be experimenting when its all up and running. As for the single speed, I already have the coupler so when the gmaxx site is open again I will just order the cover, and I have a spare brand new input shaft for the tranny to cut down to size. Its now exactly one month till the gmaxx site does reopen; the suspense is killing me!

neweuser 02.14.2007 06:13 PM

If it's the HV I think it is, they recommend gearing for 32 pitch at 70/12 and 72/11 I believe, somewhere around there. And yes, it's low, but it's due to the temps these run at.

suicideneil 02.14.2007 06:19 PM

Hmm, fair enough then. I'll start at 72/11 and take it from there. Thats the thing I love about the Emaxx tranny design- so easy to change gearing in the field without the need to dismantle half your truck, unlike when I had it in the TXT-1..... if anything came loose it was half an hour to fix it up & get running again. I love my Gmaxx....

neweuser 02.14.2007 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil
Hmm, fair enough then. I'll start at 72/11 and take it from there. Thats the thing I love about the Emaxx tranny design- so easy to change gearing in the field without the need to dismantle half your truck, unlike when I had it in the TXT-1..... if anything came loose it was half an hour to fix it up & get running again. I love my Gmaxx....

the HV's usually come with the gearing recommendations in the box with the units, you may want to check???

suicideneil 02.15.2007 12:40 PM

Yep, you're quite right. I just got the box down from the loft and had a check- forgot what it says but I'll have another look and follow that as a guide. I forget that the emaxx drive line has a higher overall ratio than the TXT-1, hence why the 11/72 sounded a bit low to me, but then it has fewer reductions in the diff- its all groovy. Havent received a reply to my email that I sent 2coolrc so they will be getting another stern one, other wise they'll be in trouble...

neweuser 02.15.2007 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil
Yep, you're quite right. I just got the box down from the loft and had a check- forgot what it says but I'll have another look and follow that as a guide. I forget that the emaxx drive line has a higher overall ratio than the TXT-1, hence why the 11/72 sounded a bit low to me, but then it has fewer reductions in the diff- its all groovy. Havent received a reply to my email that I sent 2coolrc so they will be getting another stern one, other wise they'll be in trouble...

Glad to hear! The little things are what I miss at times too! LOL...that gearing guide should be very useful. Also, if you are still running hot, you can change the gearing and use a fan on the esc. Mine unfortunately ran very hot all the time. I could only do two good speed passes and the esc would thermal, but others here have had good success with the HV, so good luck to you. Personally, I would sell the HV and get a sensorless system, but that is jsut me....the HV is nice due to the fact that it's a drop in system.....but I'm sure when you get the hang of the HV you may want more, I did anyway.:027:

suicideneil 02.15.2007 01:00 PM

I already do use a fan on the esc, but it doesnt really do an awful lot, so I may construct something myself abit better- that said the esc never used to get *that* hot in the TXT-1 setup, so hopefully it will be okay. I do like the HVmaxx system, it is nice and simple to just drop in on many trucks, though I wont be changing it for something better for a while- I've spent all my "disposable income" on the gmaxx, and there are more parts to order yet.

neweuser 02.15.2007 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil
I already do use a fan on the esc, but it doesnt really do an awful lot, so I may construct something myself abit better- that said the esc never used to get *that* hot in the TXT-1 setup, so hopefully it will be okay. I do like the HVmaxx system, it is nice and simple to just drop in on many trucks, though I wont be changing it for something better for a while- I've spent all my "disposable income" on the gmaxx, and there are more parts to order yet.

I agree, the HV is a nice starting point and will do what you need it too just fine. If you want a better fan maybe, get a 5V 40mm. They push really good air! And they can be had pretty cheap too, look for them in like computer stores online...a few months back, I bought two for 4.00 bucks on sale. Can't remember where though. I know they are not on sale now, but do some research and you will be golden....

suicideneil 02.15.2007 02:02 PM

:035: x 1,000,000.

Quote:

----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Ward" <suicideneil@hotmail.com>
To: <sales@2coolrc.com>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 2:24 PM
Subject: order #4905 enquiry


Hi, I placed an order a week ago (#4905) but havent heard anything since. Im just checking to see if the order/payment was received okay since its been a little while since it was made.

Yours faithfully, N Ward.


From: "2CoolRC" <sales@2coolrc.com>
To: "Neil Ward" <suicideneil@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: order #4905 enquiry
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:27:00 -0600

We are in the US so it takes a little long to get oders over seas. Im sure it will be there very soon

Shawn
So I waited a few weeks then....

Quote:

----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Ward" <suicideneil@hotmail.com>
To: <sales@2coolrc.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: order #4905 enquiry


Hi again, its been exactly a month since I placed my order and I still havent received anything yet, even though it was ment to have been posted via ems (5-7 days shipping time). Can you please verify when the order was despatched as I never actually got a confirmation email to say it had been posted to me. Any help would be very welcome, N Ward.

From: "2CoolRC" <sales@2coolrc.com>
To: "Neil Ward" <suicideneil@hotmail.com>Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: order #4905 enquiry

We are waiting on one part to come in. It will be here today and be shipped right out
When I ordered it there were no out of stock signs, otherwise I wouldnt have bothered and bought the parts elsewhere. This kinda thing makes me mad. Fair enough sometimes the last part gets sold and the stock status doesnt get updated immediately, but I looked at the site for a few days before placing the order- more than enough time to make the adjustment. Grrrr.... guess I'll just have to "enhance my calm" like the demolition man ( love that film ).

neweuser 02.15.2007 02:08 PM

To me, this is poor. I would send another email tomorrow to verify that it shipped.
This is why Mike is a WIN WIN. Because he would at least tell you that it has not come in yet....after a month for sure.

suicideneil 02.15.2007 02:12 PM

I dunno about another email, maybe a horse's head or small explosive device. Unfortunately these things happen fro time to time- normally I have no real problems with ordering stuff online (overseas or otherwise). My luck seems to have run out though.... hehehe. Nevermind.

suicideneil 02.17.2007 04:15 PM

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/in...g_addendum.gif

That solves my gearing questions anyway...

suicideneil 02.24.2007 02:40 PM

Quote:

Your 2CoolRC order was shipped to you on 02/24/2007 via U.S. Postal Service Global Priority Mail, Small to the following address:

Neil M Ward
** ****** *****
******** ****
*********
***** ******
United Kingdom

The following optional services were used: None



Shawn Bates
2CoolRC Extreme Performance
Fina- friggin-lly. I will post up some picks when it all arrives in a week or so.


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