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squeeforever 03.02.2007 12:48 PM

Can you imagine something better than the MM?!?
 
Look at THIS! Seems VERY promising and possibly better than the Mamba Max. I know this will be my next ESC....If not the MMM HV.

Serum 03.02.2007 12:55 PM

This one passed by here somewhere..

I am not too keen on the programming device.. i prefer the smartcards as used by other brands.

The price (knowing quark) will be too high to be a real competitor for the CC controllers.

BrianG 03.02.2007 12:55 PM

Well, being a Quark, it will probably need bigger heatsinks, won't run the voltage it is rated for, and will require one to sell a body part to afford it. :)

But, it will probably be silky smooth and run any reasonable motor with no problems.

squeeforever 03.02.2007 01:03 PM

Personally, I was expecting around $225 for price. Maybe a little more. Not to bad I would think...I would think they fixed the 6S problem to be honest...

BlackedOutREVO 03.02.2007 01:45 PM

MMM STILL!!

the mmm probably wont be a ton more for 2 times the quark, altho it looks like the might of finnnialy figured out the probs with the other quarks.. who knows tho

Serum 03.02.2007 01:50 PM

They claim there is no problem on 6S, so i guess they don't fix what ain't broken.. And 225 would be an illusion IMO..

captain harlock 03.02.2007 02:14 PM

That's a yummy controller indeed!

Aragon 03.02.2007 04:13 PM

Only goes to 6S :(

AAngel 03.02.2007 04:37 PM

I don't know. That controller looks appealing on its face, but for me, customer sevice is a big part of the deal. I just called Castle and told them that I wanted to buy two cases for my MM controllers because I had stripped the screw holes. They sent me two, no charge, not even for shipping. That's service. Besides, I'd rather a controller that does more than it is rated for, rather than less. The only thing that I can imagine better than a MM, is a MMM, if it ever gets here.

Nick 03.02.2007 06:01 PM

For me I really think they need to start going further than 6s limits on ESCs. They can give it all the bells and whistles but if it can't do more than 6s I wouldn't bother - that's just because I want to run more than 6s I'm sure however it's great for anyone else.

BlackedOutREVO 03.02.2007 06:52 PM

i know! thats why i dont any lmt motors, or lipos, because nothing can take the juice i want to put through them :D

BrianG 03.02.2007 06:58 PM

I think 6s is fine, as long as they have an HV version too. Helps keep them competitive price-wise with similar products from other manufacturers.

jhautz 03.02.2007 07:40 PM

A few months back I was talking to Frank at Quark and he eluded to a Monster truck version of an esc with a heatsink on top. I bet this is the first release and they will follow this with a higher capacity version. This one looks like its intended for 1/10 just like the MM.

I'm hoping to hear that they will release a MT version of this with higher amp capacity and higher voltage capacity as well. But this is a nice start.

But if this version is not price competitive with the MM, they wont sell many. I do like the portable programing device. Who drags their laptop to the track or out to the field when bashing. This little pocket device is sweet IMO. I always thought that a palm piolt version of the Mamba software would be the ultimate solution for programing ease and realisitc portability.

BlackedOutREVO 03.02.2007 08:12 PM

it does bl brushed, and bolth sensor, and sensorless bl motors... pretty cool

BrianG 03.02.2007 09:24 PM

So does the MM. Any sensorless ESC will run a sensored motor...

Finnster 03.02.2007 09:46 PM

Not so hot on the programmer either, but '07 is shaping up to be a great year in the brushless world. Can't wait for the snow to leave :) :) :)

hyperasus 03.02.2007 11:11 PM

At this point I'd be temped to try one just cause I'm so tired of waiting for MMM. Don't know why castle can't just admit they are having MMM motor problems and just release the ESC first without a motor.

GorillaMaxx360 03.02.2007 11:33 PM

nice esc i like the smallness

BlackedOutREVO 03.03.2007 02:23 AM

i like the programing thing, ery handy... this speedo has to cost a arm and leg tho, if its up to those specks, and comes with that programer WOW

jhautz 03.03.2007 02:47 AM

I just noticed some things I missed the first time.

It stores the highest temp so after a run you can plug your little programing box and see how hot it got. That is friggin sweet! No more guessing on the temp.

Built in switching BEC good for up to 30V input! About time someone did this. Having a separate UBEC is a PITA! To bad its 5.5V instead of 6V, but built in is still a plus IMO.

More than 32 steps for Adjustable Current limiter. Talk about being able to fine tune the acceleration. (32 steps might actually be overkill)

Velocity Responsive Braking System, which adjusts braking strength proportionally to the speed on the vehicle. (Sounds cool.... I wounder if it actually works)

It looks like a 25mm fan would fit nicely on the heatsink. Probably screw right in between the fins.

The more I read about this thing the more I like it!

Anyone know when its due out? This might be worth a look see.

http://rcforum.co.kr/news/entry/New-...-system-Plasma

Serum 03.03.2007 02:55 AM

It sounds pretty darn cool indeed!

that built in BEC and temp. monitor are new to me;

BUT!! what if the BEC dies? i personally don't see it as a PITA that you need an external BEC, since they tend to die from time to time. I do have got a UBEC on spare, but if i need to send in my controller for repair for a BEC.. that sucks..

BlackedOutREVO 03.03.2007 03:01 AM

if u fry it cant u just put a ubec on? lol if u dont think its a pain to have one

hyperasus 03.03.2007 03:01 AM

I rather like the idea of having the BEC built in. The programing device is a nifty feature but I'd still like to have the option of plugging in to a PC via USB cable.

Serum 03.03.2007 03:04 AM

I guess you never had a bec failing on you then!

jhautz 03.03.2007 03:15 AM

Serum, you could just run an external BEC if you are worried about it, but your right, then your paying for the built in BEC you dont need/want.

I personally would like it. Less wiring mess, one less component to find a place to mount, etc..

Ive had more ESCs fail on me than BECs.

hyperasus 03.03.2007 03:16 AM

Well, actually my MGM 160 built in failed on me LOL. It happens. But I still like the idea of having it built in. Even if I decide not to use it, at least its there just in case.

Patrick 03.03.2007 03:20 AM

If the internal BEC dies wouldn't you be able to just add a UBEC like we already do, or will it affect it in some other way:032:
The hand held programer looks like it could be handy for taking to racing, but also expensive. It would be good if they make the controller USB programable and able to use the hand held one as well.
AAngel from my most peoples experience and mine, Quark has very good service. They answered my e-mails with in a day, and it took 1 week from when I gave them my address to when I received the new ESC- to Australia. I hadn't even sent them the old one yet. Obviously I would prefer it didn't burn out in the first place though. :005:
Does any one know if the hand held programer comes with it or is it an extra?, I assume extra.

Woops. Left the computer while typing this and didn't see the last few posts.

jhautz 03.03.2007 03:26 AM

I agree Patrick. My experience with Quarks service was as good or even better than CC. Quark is top notch in that catagory. No worries there Aangel.

Serum 03.03.2007 03:33 AM

Yeah, can't argue with their service. shipping takes a while for the foreigners though..

I am using a 9920 with an LVC, ubec, and you don't even notice it's there. I agree; it's more of a hassle to get it all cleaned up..

Patrick 03.03.2007 03:40 AM

I like the idea of the internal [B]switching BEC[B] if it works well and is reliable. UBEC's another thing to find a space for, wire up, keep away form the RX and have a switch for (I put a switch on mine anyway).

Serum 03.03.2007 03:44 AM

Yeah, it saves some trouble. that's for sure.. Just plug in the batteries, and the LVC and UBEC is all hooked up.. that is neat. If it's durable it is a very good solution for building a clean setup without too much trouble..

Patrick 03.03.2007 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
Yeah, it saves some trouble. that's for sure.. Just plug in the batteries, and the LVC and UBEC is all hooked up.. that is neat. If it's durable it is a very good solution for building a clean setup without too much trouble..

Amen

I wonder if the MMM will have an internal switching BEC. If so that will make the MMM an even better system to just take out of the box and put into your car. Especially for newer people to brushless (or just electric) who don't understand UBEC's, LVC's very well.

jhautz 03.03.2007 03:54 AM

Who knows how good it will actually be. I like my Quarks enough to give it a chance. Despite the flaws in the current Quark ESCs I still think they are darn good. But a little pricey.

You would think that second time around they would be a little smarter and at least address the flaws in the first generatation controllers.

Patrick 03.03.2007 03:57 AM

"What flaws" says Quark:005:

Serum 03.03.2007 04:23 AM

LOL, yeah, what flaws?

Quote:

Especially for newer people to brushless (or just electric) who don't understand UBEC's, LVC's very well.
For them i wrote the sticky in the brushless section.. But it's not bad to actually know how it works. It saves questions if you understand how it works, what it is used for and why it is used for it.

Patrick 03.03.2007 04:53 AM

I don't think I saw anything about UBEC's in the sticky.:010:

captain harlock 03.03.2007 11:25 AM

I don't think they're that pricy(280) Schulze of the same type of controller would go over $350. I've never tried a quark, though.

Serum 03.03.2007 12:03 PM

Since when is schulze a refference for anything besides smoking controllers.

Compared to the CC, it is overpriced.

captain harlock 03.03.2007 12:24 PM

I think this controller will be in my list for the 1/8 buggy project, unless the MMM comes first with the same price.

jhautz 03.03.2007 02:54 PM

I'm thinking about this as a 1/8 buggy conroller too. Possible replacement for the 80B I'm currently using.


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