Lightning basic electric setup???
 

I have aquired a lightning stadium truggy roller that I wish to convert to brushless and race on a tight 10th scale track here in Des Moines. These were my thoughts on the setup. I will attempt 30 minute mains.(I know a guy who can do it now) Feigao 9xl, 4s 10000 lipo from maxamps, castle max esc, 47 kyosho spur and 13 or 14 pinion. This seems like a pretty basic and solid setup with nothing exotic. I like exotic stuff(like dancers and so on) but being new to large scale electrics that aren't boats, I would like to keep it simple, stupid.KISS
Does this sound like a good setup? I am slightly worried about battery weight but I can live with it if it will work. Any thoughts?

hey, welcome aboard.
i looked with the speed calculator and it seems like a good setup for a short track. about 30mph.
i dont know so much as most guys here tough.
if you cant do it yourself ask monster mike about a motor mount.
he can make very nice mounts.
do a search for brainG's tread about his hyper 8.
that will show you what it could look like.
byby.

some link's for you:
jakeE's hyper 7:
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...ighlight=hyper
brianG's hyper 8
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3989

this is basicly the same as the hotbodies, just might be a little different in the details.

Many comments with 9XL setub 5S battery i the bestcombination, so i think in 4S better combination is 8XL motor.

Thanks for the info guys! I'll have to stick with a 4s to stay low on weight so it looks like an 8xl might be the ticket. I don't think a little more go juice will hurt run times as long as I just use the power when I need it. What do you guys think?

I am in the process of building a LSP. I am using a Mamba max controller and an 8XL motor. The 8XL on 4S will be fast enough to race, but will not be uncontrollable on a 10 lb. truck. I think anything higher turn would be too slow for you on 4S, and that's all I would put on a MM if you are going to be doing 30 min. mains. Do a search for LSP on this forum, and it will give you a few good ideas of what people are using in their setups. Are you still planning on using the 10000 maxamps? Weight and ability to fit on the relatively narrow chassis would be a concern for me.

Hey aod8850... that's me that has the 45min+ truggy :) who are you?

Looks like there will be several brushless 1/8 in Desmoines this summer... sweet!

Your setup look spretty good... 8XL on 4s will be plenty at the track. If you want to hang tight on the battery, you can try running a couple of mine and see what you think, and maybe find out how much juice it's sucking. 10K packs should do 30 min easy... but my guess is that 8ks would also work.

Edit: I see from iowarctracks.com you are Ryan... but I still don't know who you are, ha ha...

I'm sure you can get it running for the early bird race...

Hi aod
 

It looks like we have similar tastes, micro boats and bigger cars, Im in the planing stages for a lightning myself, a buggy tho not the truck.

I'm not worrying about weight on the buggy too much, I will probably run nimh or 10,000 too, there similar weight.
The weight will still hurt a cars acceleration but not nearly as much as a boat, it wont affect the top speed like weight on a boat will, as theres more to get moving but the drag stays the same as theres no increace of wetted area to slow you.

Holy cow! It's a small world on the internet. Paul, looking forward to racing FE boats in coming up here when it gets warm. We'll have to post our non water rigs on RRR when we get them done. Random indeed!

Dustin, I raced only on Wednesdays every week last year. I worked with Dave (Marble) in Ames for a year or so and he would sometimes come out and race with me on electric night. I ran stock truck moslty. Chrome front and green back T4. Brandon would anounce me as Ryan "Got Bling" William$. I never made it out to Saturday racing as I had nobody to pit for me and I was bored with nitro anyway. (Only so much porting and timing you can do) I am looking forward to racing on electric night and also would like to run with the nitro guys as well. Paul and I are ELECTRIC boat guys and I am a bit of a junkie. You wanna see some crazy electric setups, then look at the boat guys. We are NUTS. Check this 32 cell boat out. 150 MPH 2 way average.http://www.modellbau-regler.de/Video...dro_140mph.wmv

LOL. Kinda funny how many people in the Des Moines area make their way here. Maybe all the Des Moines forum members should wear "RC Monster" shirts or something. :)

OK I can get an Aveox 1412 1.5Y for cheap and I was wondering what the performance of that motor would be like compared to like an 8 or 9XL. Any thoughts?

Maybe when I go back to the states I will go to Des moines to race or bash with some of you guy's from there I am from Dixon IL not to far from Iowa 45-60 miles

You should come out for sure. Looks like we'll have another electric buggy as well. I convinced Dave to convert his tripple seven to electric so we'll have boat load of big electrics this year.
Looks like the Aveox is a pretty fast motor according to some of the boat guys so I bought it. We'll see......

I wanted a 1412/1.5 for ages, someone from the USA came over with a Maus Bullet with 16 cells and 1412/1.5 at a time when noone in the UK had seen brushless and impressed everyone mightily. With a KV between a 7XL and 8XL it should be good for a truck, will you be running it on a sensored or sensorless controller?

My local Track's mains are 15-30 mins depending on time schedule, but they won't let me race, the owner said that if I turn up with an elecric and beat everyone they will moan at him, but I can join in the fun on bash days which is fair enough I s'pose, but they obviously haven't seen my driving.

Things look good in Idaho with electric racing and a lake, got a flying field too? with your low petrol prices (I know they have gone up a lot recently but my local regular unleaded is £4.77 per gallon XE tells me that thats $8.95!) how much is it over there? Emigration looks good right now.

8.95 a gallon!?! Time to convert the full size car to brushless!

here its 3:35 for unlined

and that boat IS NUTS!!!!

3.35! THAT's Nuts!

Her it's 2.80-290 usually.

Thats even cheaper than I thought, I was under the impression you where up to $4/gallon, it must have been dirt cheap before, no wonder your love for V8s. My last cars engine was 998cc, very light car tho, bigest I've had was 1312cc.

You think I have a full size car! LOL not since I got into modeling.
I have had a car but I had no spending money so it had to go, I did think of a brushless conversion, and the motor and esc was affordableish, but I didn't fancy filling my car with deep cycle lead acids, for the crappy peformance and range, and I could probably buy a house in another country for the price of a Lipo pack big enough.
A MM, 14xl and 12 cells on a bicycle is more my budget.and would still leave me with money for models.

Sorry for sidetracking your thread here aod.
Back on topic, aod have you seen that Mike has finished the lightning stadium mounts and there on the website.
No more about petrol prices, just helpfull info about the lightning conversion for aod, I think he is particularly interested in a suitable battery.

Around here its around $2.25 I think.

Idaho? Who's from Idaho here? I went back and checked and didn't see anyone. I'm from Boise. If anyone's from Idaho - let me know! :027:

Oops I meant Iowa, I saw IA and thought of Idaho, I blame Procharged and his joke of the day #7

Hey I'll have to talk to Dave about his 777... since I have one already converted.

Also let me know how it's going with the Aveox etc. See you at the track.. here's the flyer I made up.

Wow, racing/practicing is cheap there! At SoCal RC Raceway, it's $10/day to practice, and $15/class for racing.

No doubt... we thought about bumping the prices up but we are hoping to build up the racing turnouts. The lower fees should help... I would think....

The practice has always been free here fo the outdoor track... but the track isn't prepped or anything for practice.

Unless I die or suffer some personal catastrophe (and weather permitting), I'll be there on Wed night, May 2nd. I'm anxious to start racing. :)

Hey... I forgot all about your Jato! I know you love the crt.5.... but we should work on the Jato for wed might. Put a race setup on it... and it would be a good track truck.

The problem is still the class though.... these are both "illegal" for novice... but personally I'll let you run with them if we can get them to run at "stock" speeds.

Another idea: :D put 1/10 truck tires on the crt.5 and run it in mod truck. :027: Dude... that would be awesome.....

LOL. Sounds like a plan. I was actually looking for some 10th scale tires for the CRT today. I test-fitted the Jato tires (2.2" with Losi pins) on the CRT and they fit perfectly.

If you dial down my EPA to stock speeds, that'll be no fun. ;) Whatever man, I'll do whatever; you're the expert. :)

Sometime, I'll bring the whole stable and we can see what can be done...

Ok major bummer. The aveox motor is a 1209!!!! It's useless basicly. I have an 8xl in the mail and 2 polyquest 4000 4s packs to parrallel. My 1/10th truck and buggy are ready for electric night and I can't wait. Throw back a few shasta's and race under the lights!
Dustin, If you talk to Dave, hound him about converting his buggy. I haven't talked to him in a few weeks but he sounded gung ho about racing an electric.

Pual, I just bought an 07 civic:cool: and it get's 40+mpg. Gas here is 2.70. We grow corn, not potatos. ;)

He hasn't seen mine run this year... :D that should help him get motivated, lol...

Brian... you only need to tame the Jato if you want to run in novice or stock class. You can keep it as fast as you like for mod. :)

Up and running!!!!!
 

My truggy is up and running!!! The setup goes as follows. 9xl, MM esc, poly rc 4s2p 4000's for 8000mAh on board. I used a motor mount from Mike with my own milled back motor support and installed twin digital "El Cheapo" tower hobbies servos for steering and made my own mounts and hardware for that. I used the simple yet effective boat technique for securing the batteries. Velcro on the bottom,in between the cells, and wrapped around the whole pack. They stay in place nicely and I can move them back and forth about 3 inches for track conditions. It's not pretty but it's for racing not car shows.

It's quite fast with the 9xl and the brakes are crazy! I had no idea how much better they work than discs. I'm running a 44 spur and a 14 pinion. It's too tall so I have a 46 spur and a 13 pinion on the way and it should put me right at where I need to be. I believe the truck to be slightly LIGHTER than when it was nitro. I removed alot of parts and replace a few things with woven graghite parts that I fabbed. What do you guys think?

I think that it is awesome. I can imagine that it is fast even with the 9xl motor since it truly was designed for larger/heavier rc's, lol. That motor is even being used in muggy's which are easily over 10lbs :005: . But very nice conversion. Let us know how it handles. I have been wondering at all the different options there are for 1/10 scale 4wd st's.

Hi Aod, good to see it up and running it looks very good, congratulations.

I've got my lightning 2 pro finished now too, althought I knew the lightning stadium chassis was biger, I was suprised at how much space yours has compared to the buggy.
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...Picture078.jpg

When I read 4000 4s2p I was expecting a huge pack but that looks alot smaller than the NiCads I'm using at the moment (I'm still not 100% what battery I will get but at the moment Im leaning towards 4s enerland 4500 when they become available) how tall is your pack and what does it weigh?

Geting it lighter than stock is very Impressive especialy with 8000 on-board, how much does it weigh all up? my buggy is 8lb 12oz with 12 2400s, alot heavyer than stock I expect.

The brakes on the MM are awesome arn't they, I wasnt expecting that either, I had to turn the brakes down to 30% to stop mine locking up with road tyres on dry tarmac and it will still lock up in the rain.

I ended up spending more on my servo than I did on my motor, but I would be very interested to see the linkage you used to run 2 servos, that would have suited my budget better had I thought of it, well done.

Your motor looks red is that the photo or is it a Zee XL from OZ? I see it has screws into the front endbell, did it come like that or was it a mod you did? are there screws in the back too hidden by the wires?

Nice lookin' buggy Paul. The battery just looks small but you can't tell from the pics that I stacked one on top of the other. The footprint is small though. The motor is a pulso chinese ripoff that I bought from Brian Buass at RRR. I strongly advise that nobody purchase one of these motors. They are NOT a "good deal". The screws that you see are there because I had to put them in to keep the motor from falling apart. The pulso motors have threaded endcaps that screw off, however, my motor's threads were just ruined and it was in an UNOPENED box! so the motor would just fall apart under gravity when mounted on anything. The steering was pretty simple and I just made the parts so it didn't cost me any money. I'l post a pic and you can check it. I would deffinatly say use two on a truggy unless you have somthing digital and not cheesy like mine.