Corvette bashing and boasting :)
 

hee hee

One thing I have to say to start out: test results vary with all cars... even when tested by the same magazine, they can get different results depending on the conditions and the specific car/driver that were used....

Here's some stats from the back of Road and Track (chart on various test results they have done) keep in mind these are not all the same model year and there are faster more expensive cars than these but notice the corvette does pretty well in similar company

car.......$$$$$$... 0-60....0-100... 1/4 mile.....topspeed..... skidpad...slalom
M5........$91995......4.1.....9.5.......12.4@116.. .. governed....0.87.......68.9
Z06.......$71485......3.6.....8.5.......12.0@121.. ...198............0.96......71.2
Viper.....$87190.......4.2.....9.3.......12.3@118. ....190............0.97......67.8
FordGT..$150525......3.8.....8.8.......12.2@121... ..190............0.99......69.5
Ferrari 430 $205000...4.0....9.3.......12.3@117......193...... ......0.90.....70.9
911 GT3..$118250.....4.2.....9.5.......12.4@114......1 90...........0.92......68.7

Wow...Seems to me that the Vette won almost all except for the skidpad and slalom, and was even the cheapest...Imagine that...

I have seen a stock Z06 tested under 12 in the 1/4 and 1.02g skid...

The Ferrari Enzo and Perche 911 GT1 had much better #'s than the ones above but they are both stupid expensive too........ check this out:
.................................0-60/100.......1/4........top.....g's.....slalom
Enzo ......... $652,830.......3.3...6.6...11.1@133....218....1.01 .....73
911GT1....$1,000,000.......3.4...6.2...10.9@139... 174.....1.07.....n/a (mfg stats?)
Bugatti ....$1,482,700.......2.6...5.5...10.2@143....253.. ..0.94......68
MB SLR ......$455,750.......3.5...7.5....11.5@126...207.. ..0.97.....69.6
Saleen........$602,442.......3.3...6.0....10.6@140 ...250.....1.03.....70

then there is this thing...
Superformance $87,700...3.5...8.4...11.8@124...204...1.07...76.6

I believe the Enzo is more than $652,830. Correct me if I'm wrong though, I thought they were $1,000,000+.

Me too... but that's the price they list... maybe there is more than one model?

Anyone besides me think it's not fair to compare a sub-$100,000 car to these half million dollar + rides?

Yea, its not at all. Those are supercars, not sportscars. Theres only one model of the Enzo, but I know for a fact that you have to have 2 prior Ferrari's (can't remember what models) to even be comsidered to be able to buy an Enzo.

here's a vette w/ turbo and slicks... 1/4 mile...8.95 @ 153mph
http://www.lingenfelter.com/img/pres...ec%20Vette.mov

Holy $h!t...Thats gotta be one of the fasted street-legal Vettes around. I didn't think that was possible without tubs, and the works...

No need for tubs, just a nice pair of slicks.
That Vette was tested also by Car&Driver a few years ago. Crazy to think but that thing is actualy street leagal (minus the slicks of course). Fastest street leagal car they have ever tested.

As far as the Enzo goes, that $650k+ price that they list is actualy what the window sticker was but none of them went for under $1mil. because of mark-ups.
I'm sure we all saw Eddie Griffins recent publicity stunt crashing an Enzo?

Yea...what a waste of an Enzo. Some dumb actor goes straight into the wall - why the hell didn't he just steer the other way!? Then there's that one dude that hit the telephone pole at 162mph in Malibu...at least he was using the car...the dumb actor was going like 25mph...

The Enzo's are worth well over 1 million, but they did not cost that much from Ferrari. The fact that the a pre-requisite to owning an Enzo was being a previous Ferrari owner, and that only 400 were sold to the "public" (aka, the select Ferrari crowd), they are worth more.

What I find totally funny is that the first chart GD posted up there are a bunch of 2 door super cars and then...a sedan, and the performance isn't far off at all...especially since it probably weigh's the most.

The second charts hilarious too...all teh cars have ~3.5 second 0-60 and ~6.5-7 second 0-100 and ~200mph top speed. And then...there's the Veyron, with a 2.6 second 0-60, 5.5 second 0-100, and 253mph. :D The damn thing uses ~25 gallons of fuel in 14 minutes and a full set of tires in 15 minutes at full throttle LOL. Also does 0-100 in about the time my car does 0~65.

http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...010083af5f.htm

You guys have to hear that...

I really like the M5. Maybe someday. :sigh:

Love the M5. Now even more so with an aftermarket exhaust.
GD actualy put the wrong trap speed for the M5 in his chart above. It should be 12.4@116mph. It's the M Roadster that had the 108mph trap speed.
Speaking of BMW M series. We have an 05 M3 at my work right now that I took out the other day and hammerd the hell out of it. That thing has a sweet sounding exhaust note as well. Drove that and a GTO back to back and the GTO was faster. Though I think I'd still take the Bimmer.

Actually, it looks more like about 50mph. His mistaken was not hitting the brakes to make it stick and stay planted instead of pushing like it did. That is a problem with mid engine cars. They push...

Yea, a GTO is basically a 4 seater Vette. Same engine (LS2) and tranny.

He should have put the wheels straight and then slammed the brakes...would have stopped on a dime.

And what a nice combo it is.

man 400 enzo's made, and like 14 totaled...... why do ppl have to be so steekin dumb?

Thats the way it is...

I saw an M5 the other day driving along the coast on PCH (Pacific Coast Highway) and then we got to a light and I was drooling over it and noticed that the rims were all dinged up because she curbed it a couple times trying to parallel park (some chick was driving it - she probably had no idea what that thing is capable of).

Have they tested a Radical SR3? that will Thrash the vette and beemer on everthing except top speed, it took 4 seconds off top gears previous fastest lap (pagani zonda fangio edition) and over here it costs 40k and the beemer and vette are both 55k+

I gotta congratulate the Z06 tho Tiff tested it and loved it he said it was the best handling american car he's driven and was shocked that it compared with the europeans in terms of chuckability and roll controll for such a big car and its progressive grip. which made it a pleasure to slide round the corners. The way it drove round the track was reminiscent of a Lotus Elise which I think speaks volumes.

My dream car at the moment is an Exige S, but I expect it will be the Tesla when that enters production.

The Lingenfelter vette is a shining example of what the corvette is capable of as it approaches supercar price. I'm not a vette fan by any means, but I have incredible respect for the tuning work done by Lingenfelter.

And BP_Revo, that M5 is an incredible piece of engineering!

I'm not a huge Vette fan, but I like them and agree that the bang for the buck is huge. We all know that performance isn't the only thing people buy their cars for. Speaking of performance though, did any of you see the numbers on the Ferrari 599 in this month's Road & Track? That thing is sick! I know the price is too, but it's faster to 60 than an Enzo, 11.2 1/4 mile, and better skidpad than the Z06. Awesome.

Very nice car. So is that Callaway C16. Runs neck and neck with the Ferrari.

I don't have my R&T in front of me, but I remember the C16 actaully being slower to 60 than the Z06, and it didn't have the skidpad grip or slalom time either. I guess the supercharger makes it faster once you get going. I see the C16 has a 7.5 0-100 vs the Z06 @ 8.5. That's sweet. Both of them get to 100 before most cars hit 60. Sweet. :027:

http://s163.photobucket.com/albums/t...vettesmoke.jpg
:004: :004: :004: me no have one.... :dft004: :dft004: :dft004:
They said it made "well over a thousand hp when boost is turned up..."

The same article has an equally BAD Viper that did 220mph and was still pulling when they lifted....

And there is a 900hp GTO.... that's the kind of car that could be compared to an M5... although this one was the coupe.

Damn...

Yea....the Viper was probably a HPE one. Makes over 1000hp to the wheels and does 255mph. 0-150 in less than 10 seconds.

Traction problems for the Calloway. The true potential for a car can be found in its trap speed at the end of the quarter mile. The C16 was at 129mph at the end of the 1/4 and the best I have seen I believe for a Z06 was around 125mph at the end of the 1/4 but averages about 121.

All these 1000hp are just sick on street tires. The article said about he Viper... that they could not go full throttle without spinning the tires until late in 3rd gear. And the Corvette must have been the same since they said it smoked em in 3rd at 125mph.

So the 1/4 times are purely based on the surface grip. They would have to run sticky slicks to really see what these cars can do. 10's for sure....

Some have made it into the 8's....

No doubt that C16 would be in the 10's with slicks.

OK,

Time for a Ford guy to chime in.............(not that I don't like Vettes or M5's mind you.)

But my friend Dave helped Tony & the crew build this Ford GT.

Check it out...........1453 REAR WHEEL HORSEPOWER. YES, 1,453 REAR WHEEL HORSEPOWER.

http://www.turbofordgt.com/web/index...ask=view&id=12

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co..._2005_ford_gt/

:018: If only I had a car like that.

That GT40 is pretty sweet.... I would like to see some performance #'s.... 1/4 mile, top speed.... gotta be sick. They had it to 210mph with a gear to go and that was when it had under 900hp....