IDEAS for a 1/10 brushless project
 

OK guys it will be racing time soon and my maxx will not be able to make it in time to race so i want something to race. I will be racing street and i am looking for something to race that is a 1/10 buggy, truck, or maybe but probably not a car. I want to use the mamba maxx setup with either 7700 or 6900 motor. i will be probably running stick packs and eventually moving up to cells but no lipo. I want something durable, fast, relabel(can handle BL well), and race able. I want to stay around 500 with motor ESC and vehicle so about 250 to 275 for a kit then. I was thinking about the losi xxx-4 because i really believe that a 4WD car would be easer to control with all the big BL power. i would prefer 4WD but if you think 4WD would be good to. What do you think anybody used a xxx-4 or have any ideas on a project car to race street with.

Thanks

If you weren't stuck on exactly 1/10 scale, you could do a CRT.5. :) Lower it a little and put some street tires on it and it would be a bad little machine. The construction is well built and uses 8th scale setup and some parts.

Then again, it probably would exceed your budget - but not by much...

I dont know about the xxx-4 its belt drive im not shure it will handle bl. If you like a 4wd i'd say a kyosho laser. Or you can use a 2wd.

i would like to do one Brian because i love the platform. But it will be i little to much work (even though it is not much) for me because i want something i can just build and drop a Brushless in. I also wanted to run cells and i don't think i can fit some cells in the .5. maybe if i could do minimal mods drop in a mm and a custom 6cell pack and i would be half way simple without going over about 550 i might do it but probably not this time. I think i will come back to that project i am just looking for something fast and reliable to do right away to get racing. thanks anyway.

i could do 2wd just if you think it could be controlable and it could be a decedt vehicle Mike is it you witht the mm xxx-cr how do you like it some pics would be cool if it is yours.

I know it will fit a 6 cell pack because I designed my tray to use 2s/3s lipo or 6 cells. Mike will soon (hopefully) offer a drop-in mount so it's just a matter of making a battery tray. The CRT.5 is ~$250, servo (225MG) about $30, and the MM system is around $215. That's pretty close to your budget provided you already have the radio. But, yeah, I understand you want something quick. Stay tuned as I'm sure others will offer suggestions.

how about mods what mods need to be made besides motor mount being made.

Well, the battery tray obviously. :) Then, maybe the ESC mount, but I think it can be mounted directly to the CD top plate - or make a simple flat piece of metal and put both the rx and ESC on it like I did. If you don't want to wait for the motor mount, you could use the 46T spur with a little chassis modifications, or use a hardened steel pinion with the stock spur with no chassis mods. No matter what, there'll be some kind of modification to do...

Are you looking for a 4WD vehicle that is sturdy, reliable, and needs no mods whatsoever; just drop cells in and the MM and go? If so, I don't know of anything like that...

i know there will be mods but i was reading you thread about the ctr.5 and i saw you messing with the outdrives and the diff gears not fitting right. i am prepared to make or have a motor mount made and make my own batt box and esc mounted but are these little mods all what is needed it this basically a less complex nitro to brushless

I was trying to use the Kyosho spur and to do that, it needed some mods or some special parts. Riceman (IIRC) lengthened his CD mount holes in the chassis a little and was able to use the spur. I didn't want to mod the chassis, so I ended up using the stock steel spur. It was easier all the way around. Plus, eventually, I will probably use Mike's mount when it comes out and didn't want to mod parts without knowing what his will entail. The only chassis mod I did was to drill one 3mm hole for the battery tray; everything else used what was already there.

I know this is a farfetched idea for anyone around here but i think i want to run nitro for a while untill i want to convert it. Can i buy this .5 rtr(dont think so) and if not what servos and motor do you reccomend. and what size servos.

One last question what is the appprox. price of this car nitro with all motor and kit.

the xxx 4's belts do just fine, i have that and the xxx s sport, which i convert to the buggy and used my mm 5700 kv, u just have to tension the best correctly and it works just fine

Well, if you MUST go to the dark side (:)), you could probably get a new Traxxas 2.5 off ebay for pretty cheap (~$90) since everything seems to be moving over to the 3.3. I believe the CRT.5 is meant to run a .12 for race legality, so I guess it depends if you are really going to race. I really don't know much about Nitro prices as that is old stuff. ;)

The servos will have to be mini ones, like the Hitec HS225MG - which is ~$30. There are others you can use I'm sure, but that seems to be a popular one since it is plenty strong (67 oz-in) and fast ( 0.1sec IIRC) for 1/12 scale uses.

found the prices and the options i think this price range will fit me untill i go bl because it is about 150 cheaper than my price range and all i need is some servos, glow igniter, starter box and a radio which i have. but brain do you know what size servos it uses. thanks

thanks brain yes i do believe i will be going over to the dark side soon. I promised my self that i like electric better but i really need to experience nitro so i am definatly getting 1 or 2 nitro vehicles this summer. this and a revo. but i am not so sure on this i will think some more. but thanks for the help brain. with the 2.5 and or 3.3 fit with little or no mods.

The way the motor mount is set up lets you use a variety of motors. Just look at a pic of the mount and you'll see what I mean.

I would just also like to thank you Brian for the info on the crt.5. I thought it would end up costing a lot more. I think I may sell my bl rc18mt to fund this little project.:027: However, I'll keep the rc18 until Mike makes the drop in motor mount... then all the fun begins. :027:

BTW... Gorilla - the 2.5 should work well in it and should really make it fast. As for the XXX-4, you spoke of before, Beat Your Truck tested the Mamba Max using it, and they said it worked well with it even though it is belt driven. Here is the review:
http://www.beatyourtruck.com/prodreview-mambamax.html

If you are interrested, I got a brand new in box Factory Team RC10T4 Kit for sale.

Let me know.

thanks rc but that was a associated buggy review i think b4 not xxx-4 but thanks anyway.

I run a Associated FT B4 with the MM5700 on a trakpower 4900. It rips! It is very controlable if you get used to it and have a steady finger.

Yeah, B4 is the way to go for racing. If you have enough budget, HB's new 4wd Cyclone D4 buggy will make you a leader.

That's a car I would like.... to replace my XX4 (which is awesome btw)

The HB is a poor man's BJ4WE (a direct 100% knockoff..) but that the way things are anymore. The BJ4 is wayyyyy expensive, so this is the answer for many.

The HB does look alot like the BJ4.. whats the pricetag on this one?

$470ish...:002:

I'd also take a Tamiya TRF501X. It's waaaay more cooler than any ep 4wd buggy I've seen so far.

was that hotbodies a buggy or truggy?

Buggy :)

I'm also keen to get a 1:10 buggy. I am deciding between the Kyosho Laser ZX5, MRC SBv2 Pro, and the JConcept BJ4WE. I think it's going to be the BJ4WE if I don't have to wait a long time for it. Getting one requires entering a preorder list and waiting. :(

The HB?! I dont get how it is the poor mans Bj4 Than?:032:

I can recommend the Kyosho Lazer ZX-5. Had one last year and used a LRP Sphere Comp + 4 star with Orion Platinum 4800. Incredible performance and control. At $299 the ZX-5 is a very good choice. You can upgrade it later if you want a style similar to the BJ4 and TRF501X. I think the conversion is made by KMC. I like the original "tub" chassis and I wouldn't recommend converting it.

My opinion is that a 4wd is easier to drive if you're using a fast brushless or brushed motor. I haven't used lower than 13 turn in a 2wd.

There are some very in depth reviews of 1:10 buggies on www.oople.com. They have the KM conversion there even.

Yeah,oople.com is great,you get a very in depth look at the cars.

The zx-5 would seem the logical choice,right price range,can use stick packs and can convert to the BJ4 layout later if you get more serious and want to run saddle packs.

Also worth a mention is the dark impact with a few upgrades,that gives you the benefit of the enclosed shaft drive aswell as the transverse motor for mod or BL motors.

I'll list them for you:

BJ4

HB Cyclone D4

Tamiya TRF501X

Yokomo MR4-BX

Predator X10

IMHO, those are the very best.

Soon to be Predator X11.. :)

I don't think it will be $470... I have heard around $300... but we will have to see. If it's only $30 less than a B4 then they would not have made it imo.

HB has done this before... they copied the Kyosho 1/8... you could buy it for way less than the Kyosho.

The pictures were of the Associated b4, but they actually talk about the XXX-4 as well in the review. I see you are not really considering it anymore... but I thought that you may want to see it.

Has anyone suggested a JATO 3.3?

any info on the nitro ctr.5