electric conversion
 

i want to do a electric conversion. i would lke to do either a e- revo x1 crt or hpi hellfire.:032:

Hellfires are on sale at tower hobbies!

why no losi?
i tought you liked it?
mike is even doing one for himself.

Once you start talking about doing a truggy, there are a few that you should consider. The CRT is nice, the 8ight seems to be the rage and the MBX5 would be a "can't go wrong" choice.

I am a fan of the losi 8ight 8t..

The 8ight buggy that I did came out alright, but I wasn't crazy about it. I'll be doing an 8ight T for the owner of my LHS pretty soon. Maybe I'll like that better. I'll like it a whole lot more if Mike comes out with a mount for it and I won't have to mill a mount on my drill press again.

How much are you willing to spend. The hellfire is on sale at Tower Hobbbies... but there are just so many to choose from. But out of those 3, I would choose the Hellfire because of the sale and the motor mount can be done by Mike.

I would take the revo for its bash-a-billity!

I was in this same situation. I went with the Jammin CR buggy on sale at tower for 450-30. What a deal! Plus, I like buggies anyways. Just don't get the Hellfire.

Yea, Supralover is right...The Hellfire isn't that great. Now on the other hand, the LSP is...

i can imagine a hellfire being anoying to convert aswell.
it has this double deck chassis going on. but its a cheap truggy now.

forgot about the 8 and the 8t. hey aangle do you have any pics or is there a forum on your 8 conversion?

also if i did the revo i would probably make a chasis out of lexan cause the g3r are so dang expensive

if you did the revo you could also use stock chassis, even stock trans.
if you want pics of losi 8ight-t go to glassdoctors tread: new toy, good and bad.
its :020: nitro:020: tough.

The CRT conversion is a snap, rollers around 200$, and mike sells a mount. Lots of threads on how 2. Plus, the truggy is bullet proof practically. An e-revo would cost more in the long run once you get all the diffs upgraded to 1/8 scale. My 2 cents.

LMAO!! :D

glad you can laugh with it.

two qustions where can you find the crt rollers and maybe i want to do a buggy.

I think Mike can help you out. Shoot him an email. He has got decent prices, and the parts needed to make a sweet conversion.. :)

first qustionhow do u emial mike and i found a x1 crt roller on ebay

His email is rcmonstermike@gmail.com

Do you have a link to the CRT roller on ebay?

jammin x1 crt race rolling chassis roller ofna Item number: 110121064441

here it is

sorry high lighted the wrong thingjammin x1 crt race rolling chassis roller ofna Item number: 110121064441

maybe i want to do a buggy

1b, sorry. I checked my photobucket and apparently, I did't take any pics of it. The buggy is now gone, but to tell you the truth, it looked like any other 1/8 buggy conversion. 1/4" aluminum motor mount bolted to the rear center diff mount with the motor on the right and the battery on the left.

All in all, I think truggies are much easier to convert because there is so much room under the body for the battery(ies). We had to get a bit creative with the battery tray in the 8ight buggy to fit a 4S2P 8Ah pack under the body.

http://http://search.ebay.com/brushl...chiZQQsaprcloZfound this brushless motor on ebay will it fit in the emaxx

link doesnt work for me. wich motor is it?

it is the walkera 180brshless motor 3200kv and a dragon fly 60 36 esc if the esc is not good i can just buy the motor cause there are alot of just the walkera selling [or trying to be sold]. oh and the reason that u could use the link beacuse by the time u checked the bidding was already over.

i evendulty want to do a buggy and truggy from the same company losi or jammin

jammin: losi
pros: cheaper bigger pros lighter faster
cons heavier not as fast of lap times cons more expensiver
smaller
which would u chose?

It is mainly personal preference. Both are great companies. For me, I'd get a Jammin' truck off the internet, since my LHS doesn't sell either. But I just like jammin' better for some reason.

I don't know why you'd think the 8ight was faster than the CR(T). Speed is all a matter of how you set it up. If you are talking just lap times, there is no reason why the CR(T) wouldn't bring in as good as or better lap times than the 8ight(T). If, just getting the 8ight would make you faster, I think that everyone would have gotten one.

I like the 8ight, but having had experience with both, I'd take the CR(T). I find it easier to drive.

honestly,
lots of people are faster with a losi then they where with there jammin.
but they are harder to drive, they feel like rwd electrics.
while a jammin must feel like a 4wd nitro.
just my opinion

jolly,

I really don't understand your statement. The 8ight is harder to drive, but people go faster with them because of it? I like the CRT for that exact reason. The 8ight is harder to drive well.

I know it's dangarous to say such a thing, but i think it's all about tuning/balance/choice of setup/tires

if you take out all the nitro stuff and make it brushless the ballance is completely different than it was nitro.

it sounds weird to me that the losi feels like a rwd vehicle. sounds like the weightballance is too much to the front.

well, i wasnt exactly clear.

first, you cuss and swear that your laptimes with the losi suck.
then you practise alot,
times will end up being faster then your previous car/truggy.
you gotta learn how to drive again if you come from a mugen, kyosho, jammin, ...
it feels like an rwd electric when its nitro cuz the weight bias is towards the front. it's quite loose in stock form,
you also gotta role the trottle where as on a mugen you can nail it quickly after the corner.
atleast this is what i read on nitro forums.
it may not be like that anymore after installing a BL motor and a big battery.
maybe mike and glassdoctor can explain it better then i,
for they raced there 8-t allready.

Of course...it is all about tuning, etc. It always is. I just found the 8ight harder to get to act right. The best that we were able to do was to get to a configuration that was better than the others we tried, but it still wasn't easy to drive. For me and my friend anyway.

Most of this is, after all, based on personal preference. It's just an opinion.

One thing that I've found that has made the whole electric conversion thing difficult is the weight of the batteries. Our track is very tight and rough, so we tend to run soft suspensions. When running such a suspension with a 4.8Ah battery, it's OK and we can tune things out to get the truck/buggy driving well; but when we need the runtime and move to an 8Ah battery and tune the suspension just to be able to support the added weight, the handling suffers.

jolly, I understand what you are saying. Making a transition from one vehicle to another does involve having to get used to the new vehicle; but there are some vehicles that are easier to make a transition to than others. For me, the X-Ray is the magic buggy. The first time I drove one, I was driving it as though I had owned it for years. I do pretty well with a CRT too. I can't drive an 8ight worth a crap. As I said, it's just my opinion.

i'm gonna try to stay as low as possible for battery weight/capacity.
i'm liking the flightpower evo 25 4s 3700mah, not to heavy and it can deliver plenty of power i think.

Yeah, with a brushless conversion you can't really look at setupsheets others use with nitro vehicles.

the entire balance is disturbed, most likely you need different diffoils, since the setup has got way more low-end torque. thicker oil (unless the setup became lighter, thinner oil would be needed) (in both shocks and diffs). I guess the differences between running a nitro and a brushless are quite large.

Arh, it's just a matter of years before the first xray/mugen/crt can be bought brushless ready...

imo, we will never see a bl ready mugen or jammin. they dont even have any electrics in there entire line-up.

maybe xray, kyosho or losi.
but even that i'm not so sure of.