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A4DTM 05.06.2007 02:22 AM

Neu powered LSP video
 
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ldDo9bDGTlk

I made a mistake, that's 14/46 gearing, not 16/46.

1bhutch 05.06.2007 07:27 AM

who makes the lsp

jollyjumper 05.06.2007 07:29 AM

hot bodies.

nice video but it seems overpowered to me.

Serum 05.06.2007 07:45 AM

How long did you guys needed to wait before the 'loading' message disappeared? is 15 minutes normal..? :p

Serum 05.06.2007 08:02 AM

loading..

nativepaul 05.06.2007 10:39 AM

Nicce video, it was a minute or 2 for me but I did watch it at 3PM GMT so I expect the Americans are still asleep.

jnev 05.06.2007 11:37 AM

I have been waiting 15 minutes now, and I just don't see it starting to work.

I just have one question. How is the True-RC 5s2p 8Ah lipo working out for you? The price is a lot lower than other lipo packs, so was wondering if the quality is comparable to other companies like Max Amps. I was originally going to get the Max Amps 4s2p 8Ah pack, but this has more voltage and is way cheaper. I am kind of leaning towards this one now.

Thanks.

squeeforever 05.06.2007 12:29 PM

TrueRC is just as good as Max Amps. Dan, the owner, is a really good guy.

Thats kinda odd. It only took a few seconds to load for me...

AAngel 05.06.2007 01:27 PM

Mind won't load either.

Serum 05.06.2007 01:34 PM

My mind seems to have this same issues, must be one of those days..

A4DTM 05.07.2007 08:30 PM

short video from a gravel pit i found.. only 51 seconds long..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzCgbMWga2o

I uploaded the last video w/ a divx codec.. but I'll reup as a quicktime, and post the link so hopefully you guys can see it.

jnev 05.07.2007 09:21 PM

Thats a sweet video!! I think someone needs some new tires... you were sliding all over the place!!:027:

A4DTM 05.07.2007 09:30 PM

for anyone that couldn't see the first video, try this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c50pZv0h_Q

jnev 05.07.2007 09:45 PM

This pops up:
"This video is a duplicate of a previously uploaded video."

A4DTM 05.07.2007 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ***RC***
This pops up:
"This video is a duplicate of a previously uploaded video."

yeah youtube deleted it because it had same info..
i edited the post, so try it now.
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c50pZv0h_Q )

jnev 05.07.2007 11:12 PM

Yep, finally works. That thing is fast!! Looked to be a clean set up as well.

jhautz 05.07.2007 11:16 PM

Sweet vid... Looks like that 1515/2.5D runss pretty nice. :dft012:




Quote:

Originally Posted by jollyjumper
hot bodies.

nice video but it seems overpowered to me.

Bahh!! Overpowered... Whats overpowered??? ;)


Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever
TrueRC is just as good as Max Amps. Dan, the owner, is a really good guy.

I'll second that. TrueRC lipos are a hell-of-a bang for the buck. Best value Lipos IMO. I have 3 sets of 5s 8000mah and they run great.

A4DTM 05.08.2007 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz
Sweet vid... Looks like that 1515/2.5D runss pretty nice. :dft012:

Bahh!! Overpowered... Whats overpowered??? ;)

I'll second that. TrueRC lipos are a hell-of-a bang for the buck. Best value Lipos IMO. I have 3 sets of 5s 8000mah and they run great.

I second everything he says :027: (except the 3 sets part lol)

btw Jeff, I heard you went out to the Huntley track this past weekend. What do you think of it so far? Did you put the 1512 in your buggy? I'm thinking about skipping out on Hobbytown and see if I can play at Winne's instead.

Patrick 05.08.2007 06:17 AM

Video works for me too, now.
I don't agree with jollyjumper that it's overpowered, but it is powerfull.
I want basically the same setup in my Thunder Tiger ST-1 Pro (1515 2.5d,Quark 125, 5s, 46t spur, 13 or 14t pinion for racing)
I haven't ordered the batteries yet though. I was thinking 8000mah maxamp packs, but people have been saying that the truerc packs are good value.
Are these packs getting hot in your setup, do they seem relible? If they work well for you then they should work well for me.
How does the motor and esc seem temp wise? I don't think the motor should be much of a issue, but I'm not sure about the Quark.
How does the run time seem? I'm wondering if I can get 25 minutes racing out of it.
Sorry, one more question to bug you with. What weight diff oils are you running? I like that it diffs out a bit, but is still able to do wheel stands.
Looks like a good car and I hope keeps working well.
Thanks

jhautz 05.08.2007 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A4DTM
I second everything he says :027: (except the 3 sets part lol)

btw Jeff, I heard you went out to the Huntley track this past weekend. What do you think of it so far? Did you put the 1512 in your buggy? I'm thinking about skipping out on Hobbytown and see if I can play at Winne's instead.


Yea, I was out there for a couple hours on sunday. Pretty sweet layout they have there. The track is HUGE. Its even got a 2nd section of the track that can be added on to it if they want to make it bigger, or it can be run as a separte track. They are also building a dirt oval track, a big boulder pile for rockcrawling and they are even talking about putting in a scale dragstrip. The dragstrip soulds cool. I think I could get into that.


The layout on the offroad track is pretty sweet, but the place still needs some clean up before its ready to open. Really dry and disty with alot of big rocks still scttered about. Killer bashing spot right now, buit not quite ready for racing yet. Its gonna be really sweet when they are done though.

I wount be out there this weekend, but I'm gonna tray and get out there the next sunday.


Oh yea... And yes the buggy ran sweet in the 1512.

A4DTM 05.08.2007 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick
Video works for me too, now.
I don't agree with jollyjumper that it's overpowered, but it is powerfull.
I want basically the same setup in my Thunder Tiger ST-1 Pro (1515 2.5d,Quark 125, 5s, 46t spur, 13 or 14t pinion for racing)
I haven't ordered the batteries yet though. I was thinking 8000mah maxamp packs, but people have been saying that the truerc packs are good value.
Are these packs getting hot in your setup, do they seem relible? If they work well for you then they should work well for me.
The packs are just barely warm. one of the packs slid across rough blacktop for about 60ft, and in my lsp, the pinion came loose, and moved up against the lipo. the cells have indentation where the pinion rubbed, but so far, no problems at all..
at one point i was running my lsp only only one of the packs (40a constant), and it ran flawlessly. the packs balance pretty well. nothing but good things from me.


How does the motor and esc seem temp wise? I don't think the motor should be much of a issue, but I'm not sure about the Quark.
barely above ambient.. It's been in the 70's, and I can't tell if there's heat coming off of the motor or controller/heatsink. I'm not sure about the quark either. I did the mod before I ran the truck, so I can't compare before and after.

How does the run time seem? I'm wondering if I can get 25 minutes racing out of it.
idea. I havn't run it down yet. I've been running for 5-10 minutes at a time, and basically I charge them when I've had 2-3 runs on them. I need to get a good long session in to see what it is.

Sorry, one more question to bug you with. What weight diff oils are you running? I like that it diffs out a bit, but is still able to do wheel stands.
Looks like a good car and I hope keeps working well.
Thanks
I don't even know what diff oil comes stock... the truck now has 50k in the center though. when I ran it before I changed the center, the fronts would expand to 10-12"



Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz
Yea, I was out there for a couple hours on sunday. Pretty sweet layout they have there. The track is HUGE. Its even got a 2nd section of the track that can be added on to it if they want to make it bigger, or it can be run as a separte track. They are also building a dirt oval track, a big boulder pile for rockcrawling and they are even talking about putting in a scale dragstrip. The dragstrip soulds cool. I think I could get into that.


The layout on the offroad track is pretty sweet, but the place still needs some clean up before its ready to open. Really dry and disty with alot of big rocks still scttered about. Killer bashing spot right now, buit not quite ready for racing yet. Its gonna be really sweet when they are done though.

I wount be out there this weekend, but I'm gonna tray and get out there the next sunday.


Oh yea... And yes the buggy ran sweet in the 1512.

sounds great. second thought, i'm going to sit this weekend out I think. I need to do another center diff rebuild, shock rebuilds, and something's binding in the steering.. I can hear it it squeek, and seems to turn more to one side. Good to hear you like the motor. I like my motor alot more haha. great deal.

neweuser 05.09.2007 01:43 PM

Very nice LSP IMO, I like that it has the power available there.

mach1stang 05.10.2007 06:24 PM

very nice set up seems to run very good.

Patrick 05.11.2007 02:34 AM

Thanks for the answers A4DMT.
I got my 1515 2.5d yesterday, and I think I'll get the TrueRc packs (I want to use a 2s and 3s pack together), if there not that good then atleast they're not too expensive.
Now I just need to make a motor mount and battery trays.

AAngel 05.11.2007 02:37 AM

I'm running a truerc 5S 8Ah pack too. With my 8XL it never even breaks a sweat.

Procharged5.0 06.01.2007 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jollyjumper
hot bodies.

nice video but it seems overpowered to me.

:032: :032: :032: OVERPOWERED????

IMPOSSIBLE! LOL!


My philosophy for RC's is like cars. Power is just about right when it scares the s__t out of you! :)


......and yes, if you can't control it it's not much fun, so I get your point. :027:

Serum 06.01.2007 12:14 PM

I finally got a change to watch the movie.

You are familiar that brushless controllers can do more than on/off?

You can see the batteries are getting warmer at the end of the movie. The temperature difference gives it more power.

A4DTM 06.03.2007 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
I finally got a change to watch the movie.

You are familiar that brushless controllers can do more than on/off?

You can see the batteries are getting warmer at the end of the movie. The temperature difference gives it more power.

haha of course I know they can do more than on and off. I was trying to break it.. I've always had horrible drivetrain luck with all my rc's.. my old tc3 snapped 5 aluminum cvd's, and bent two steel cvd's.. eventually went to titanium, and didn't have any problems after that.. I was just breaking in the drivetrain to see what would fail first. in the video the spur stripped.. I just happened to strip another spur tonight.. that's my 5th stripped spur so far :002: I've only got another 6 in my toolbox =\

Serum 06.03.2007 03:39 AM

What spur are you using? you could use a plate that holds the 51t ofna spur, and put two of them on it and ask Mike to make you a longer pinion. (or one plastic, and one steel)

A4DTM 06.03.2007 07:03 AM

I've been using the kyosho 46t gear from mike's store. I believe the cause is the motor not staying put.. it seems to slide away from the diff just a tiny bit.. I'm not sure, but it's not sheering the teeth off completely, it's just kind of flattening them 1/2 way down. I'm trying some new screws tommorow (hex head, instead of phillips), and I'll use loctite, and see if it holds.

Serum 06.03.2007 08:04 AM

You mean you are using philips head screws to hold the motor in place?

Sounds like you have another problem than a strength issue with the gears.. It needs to be tight in place.

A4DTM 06.03.2007 04:49 PM

exactly. I've got hex screws on it now, but I was running with a "dulled" diff gear last night, when it stripped. I'm off now to replace the gear w/ a new one, and threadlocking the hex motor screws, and I'll see if I can get it to hold up for a run.

AAngel 06.03.2007 05:03 PM

You guys are putting loctite on the motor screws? I wouldn't even take the chance of any of that stuff getting inside of my motor.

I use the small 3mm lock washers and my motor hasn't slipped yet. That's the thing with these 6061 mounts. You have to watch not to tighten down too much so as not to deform the mount. I found this out with my 8ight mount. My homemade mounts were 7075 and allowed the use of the full size 3mm washers and I could really crank down on those.

BrianG 06.03.2007 05:12 PM

Definitely! Without lok-tite, the screws back out pretty quickly. It takes about 10 minutes to loosen on a steel on steel setup. It lasts longer on a steel pinion/plastic spur setup, but still backs out. It's funny though; I've never used lok-tite on the Jato and it runs fine, but the Revo needs it. And I put about the same amount of tightening force on both (so the wrench twists about half a turn, lol). Go figure.

A4DTM 06.03.2007 05:46 PM

it's all in the weight of the vehicle. when I ran my rustler and tc3, I never used loctite.. not even on the pinion's grub screw.

on this truck, I need loctite on the pinion and motor screws, or else I can't get one run in..

all back together now, trying to get ahold of a buddy to help video it, w/ GPS on board..
went to 18/46 gearing, so we'll see if it does 40 like your calc says :)

BrianG 06.03.2007 06:33 PM

From other people's testing, the calc is pretty accurate. Of course, it doesn't account for drivetrain drag, wind resistance, etc. And above ~45mph, the speed is derated due to a greater effect of wind resistance.

A4DTM 06.03.2007 08:34 PM

45.3mph.. I updated my LSP thread in the Brushless forum. I'll update this thread w/ a video when I get home later tonight.

A4DTM 06.04.2007 02:56 AM

18/46
http://a4dtm.com/lsp/park.avi (27.9mb divx)

or wait for it to show up on youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=A4DTM
*EDIT- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1nZhSZ9azs (I still recomend just downloading the avi for quality :))


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