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mach1stang 05.12.2007 11:18 AM

drag motor help
 
hey guys, i am working on saving for a pro mod drag car (its the top one in the link) http://www.grandmotorsports.com/otherdrag.asp and i plan to use a mm i have a 7700 in my b4 buggy (aka the bling 4) and i love it. it is a awsome motor but i am wanting somthing a little more on the top end side for the drag car but i dont need a lot of torque seeing as the rolling chassis is just a few ounces. i plan on running 6-8 cells what would be a good higher rpm motor?

BP-Revo 05.12.2007 02:28 PM

Running 8 cells on the 7700 should be plenty.

However, you could try a 1920/6 or 1920/5 or even a 1920/4 if you want to be totally insane.

The 1920/4 will provide nearly 70,000RPM under load on 8.8V (assuming your batteries hold 1.1V per cell with 8 cells).

I think that'd be a bit much though. Probably be good on 6 cells for a dragster.

I'd personally run a 1920/5 on 8 cells. It will give around 50,000RPM under load, which seems good.

I'd also run lots of large capacitors to help your batteries maintain higher voltage under load by smoothing out the current draw. I added more caps to my HV-Maxx before and it really helped with acceleration (but take note this adds strain to the ESC).

mach1stang 05.12.2007 02:47 PM

ok i just want a bit more top end and kinda stay away from all the bottom end to keep it from blowing the tires away every time.

lydiasdad 05.12.2007 02:59 PM

Then just gear it higher

mach1stang 05.12.2007 03:21 PM

yeah i will do that anyways but you have to think the whole car wont weigh more than a 1.5 pound.

skellyo 05.12.2007 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mach1stang
yeah i will do that anyways but you have to think the whole car wont weigh more than a 1.5 pound.

Yes, it will.

IB4200's are 2.4oz each; 6 = 14.4oz, 8 = 19.2oz
This is also not counting battery bars and wire

Mamba Max motor = 7oz

Mamba Max ESC = 2.5oz

Vehicle = 7.5oz (with no body or servo)

Average Servo = 2oz

And the body is probably at least 2oz also.

That puts you at about 2 1/4lbs with 6 cells or 2 1/2lbs with 8 cells. That's a 3/4-1 pound heavier than you're estimating and doesn't count the battery bars, wire or a receiver.

mach1stang 05.12.2007 04:23 PM

it is not a average servo it is a mini servo and i am pretty sure the weight includes the body i mean it is still a super light car with everything.

skellyo 05.12.2007 05:44 PM

From the website text:

Weight (rolling chassis minus body and electronics)
7.5 oz.

mach1stang 05.12.2007 07:55 PM

o i must haved missed that.

BlackedOutREVO 05.13.2007 02:52 AM

ah ha kody, not to much lighter then my cyclone loaded man, even thos theres nuthin to it

bp, u are crazy!!! u must of cought the lmt feaver LOL

AAngel 05.13.2007 03:56 AM

If you are going to get into some real drag racing, try the 5700 motor. Drag racing isn't about having the hottest motor that you can get with the most rpms. Drag racing is about getting power to the ground. In the MM line, the 5700 does this the best.

mach1stang 05.13.2007 09:58 AM

yes your right but the 5700 has alot more bottom end, and that can great for a good track that has been lathered with sugarwater and all that stuff but then on some tracks it could be your worst nightmare. I think i am going to with the six i will have plenty of chassis placments to toy with it will keep the weight down and it should have some times with the 7700.

AAngel 05.13.2007 11:42 AM

Just trying to give you the benefit of what I've experienced. I'll bet you come back to the 5700. It's what we did.

mach1stang 05.13.2007 02:28 PM

you have ran a drag car?

BlackedOutREVO 05.13.2007 03:11 PM

i havent, but i second him 100%

but idk that he knows that u already have the 7700 and speedo from ur bling 4, so yeah

mach1stang 05.13.2007 03:30 PM

yeah i have the all the stuff from the bling 4 and i a wanting to get some diffrent stuff for it so i have a motor and stuff.

BlackedOutREVO 05.13.2007 03:42 PM

yeah, well i think with some punch controll and cell twards the back u should be good, if ur runnin on unprepped tar mac u might be goin through foamies like crazy tho

mach1stang 05.13.2007 03:57 PM

yep and thats what i am running on for a while and i can tell you the 7700 has some pretty crazy torque so i think it will do good.

BlackedOutREVO 05.13.2007 04:01 PM

yup yup

did ur other stuff come?

mach1stang 05.13.2007 04:02 PM

heck no!!!!

BlackedOutREVO 05.13.2007 04:36 PM

that sucks! well atleast u know its goin to be this week

AAngel 05.13.2007 05:50 PM

mach, I have run drag cars, although it does nothing for me. Since you already have a 7700, go for it. If you get the opportunity to get another motor, I'd go for the 5700. Have you ever run a drag car?

AAngel 05.13.2007 05:52 PM

What cells are you going to run? If you are sticking with nimh (to stay "legal") be sure to check the website of the manufacturer of your choice. Personally, I'd go for the GP3700. They are lighter than the higher capacity cells, and unless things have changed, they also have less internal resistance and will deliver more punch.

mach1stang 05.13.2007 06:12 PM

AAngel i have not ran a rc drag car but me and my dad run full scale drag cars so i get the basics to tuning and stuff. i am really going to try and make this more of a "chassis car" because the 6 magnet drag motors will be pretty hard to compete with and if i can get a car that will stay consistant it makes it alot easyier to drive and thats where the mm comes in with being able to tune the motor so this is the car that will stay hooked up the whole time. and yes i am working on a project now and i think i am going to be ordeing alot of gp stuff for most of my projects unless i can get some good ib's.


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