Neu 1506-1Y with a MM esc?
 

I found a great deal on a Neu 1506 5500kv motor and I'm going to run it in my CRT.5 with a Mamba Max esc has anyone tried the smaller Neu's with the MM esc? I'm hopeing I wont have the cogging problem like I did with the full size CRT and a 1515 motor. :032:

u could always put 4 more caps on the esc like i think its aangel, he said his neu in his 8ight doesnt cogg

but this lil guy is also less then half the wight

btw, where did it come from? link?

I did put caps on the MM, but I'm not running a Neu. Glassdoctor (among others I'm sure) is running a Neu on a MM. I don't know if he's done the "cap" mod yet.

In any case, this may or may not be pertinent; but I was told my Frank at Quark, that the Neu motors do really well with the Quark controller. He said that the Neus seem to like the Quarks timing, which I believe he said was a 6 degrees. I wonder if the Neu might run better with the MM, if you ramped up the timing on the controller.

the MM controllers need an update to switch between slotted and non slotted motors. now they are set to non slotted motors, and the Neu motors are slotted.

Sooooo...is that the issue then. I hope they fix that soon.

I found it on Ebay :010: I dont want to post a link because he has a few more Neu 1509's and 1512's I'm thinking about.:032:

I'm hoping with the lighter weight almost 6lb's lighter then my CRT it will work Well see if not I think I might be able to use the Quark 80amp esc with the 1506 motor if cogging is an issue? I'm very curious to see what the diference is going to be between the 5500kv Neu and the 5700kv Mamba?

I dont know what the deal is at Castle there air ESC's have the option to switch between slotted and un slotted motors why is it taking so long to get an update for the MM esc's.:007:

I think we all saw them on ebay already. I was really tempted to pick up that 1512 2y but already ordered another feiago a few days earlier. I did order the 1521 to try in a truggy though.

I thought they were not even going to bother with the update? IIRC, that's what I heard around here?

Adding caps like AAngel did to his MM will prob make a big difference as to what a MM can run, and is capable of.

iirc, whats that mean?

and these caps really make a diff with a mm motor? or just with other motors?

IIRC: if i remember correctly :027: I just asked what it meant last week too.:005:

The caps have to do with the controllers, but yes, I'm sure it would make a difference in what motors you can run.

Ask AAngel...

but a diff on a mm 5700?

and thx!

LOL there going fast now I almost got the 1521 motor for a light weight large scale speed car I have oh well you saved me 275 bucks LOL

$254 for the 1577kv one. looks like the one you were interested in is gone too.

Yep I was thinking 6-8s with Castles 110hv.:005:

I just couldn't pass up the 1506 motor for 135 though It is almost the same size as the as the Mamba Max motor and a loaded 5500kv vers unloaded? some say MM 5700kv I need to get some good data in the eagletree with the Mamba and compare it the the Neu see if it is really worth it to spend the extra money on a high end motor? :032:

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IB; I like the avatar! I used to be a huge C&H fan until watterson stopped making the comic several years ago. :mad:1
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Since off-topic IS my bag;

you know the terrible snow-zombie of C&H? it's hilarious Don't know if that's how you guys know it by that title, it's a somewhat direct translation of our version here..

@zero; there is this thread on this other forum from another thread on rc-monster somewhere on here, where someone of castle told they addressed the issue with the MMM, it's a matter of time before they put this software in the MM as well..

And to offer better help;'

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...3&postcount=20

I beleive Neu motors have unloaded KV. The figures are just too "round" to be loaded. I mean, seriously? 2000, 2500, 5500, etc? I don't think a Lehner has a single one like that, they are all 2506, 1908, etc.

thanks Serum

They should make that known on their website IMO.

Yeah I thought I read somewhere the Neu's were loaded KV but that makes since odd ball numbers = loaded. It still should be a very interesting comparison though between the Mamba max and Neu. :)

Well after seeing Joe Ford's reply on the MM Neu issue the chances of an update for the MM coming out soon does not look good.:035: And the MMM sounds like another year before we see anything there? Well I guess if the added Caps dont help it's time to get a couple of Quarks to run the Neu's in the CRT and CRT.5 :rolleyes:

I just cant wait for Castle any longer I love the MM esc I have never had any problems with there Mamba's even running the 25 on 4s in a RC18 but I also love Neu's and the 2 just dont seem to mix at least in my CRT dont know about the CRT.5 yet? I have been hearing about an update for over 6mo so I have not wanted to spend the money on a Quark for my CRT the MM esc works great once it's rolling but after I shattered a spur with the cogging issue I decided to shelf it till the update or MMM esc came out and 6mo later still no firm news on eather.:007:

if you're looking for a neu quality motor to run on a mamba max try the plettenbergs... they're 4plole like the neu's but i've had no issues running mine with my MM

The Plettenbergs are very nice motors but there made in europe and not as popular in the states as the Neu's that are made and seviced in the USA. :)

I was hoping to get the new motor today hopefully tomarrow Who knows the smaller motor in a lighter car the MM and Neu may work just fine?

Q? The added caps on the ESC is it really needed in a smaller scale set up? I can see there benifit in larger heavier 1/8 scale and truggy's were your pushing the ESC to it's limit's. If you dont have heat issues with the ESC and running well within it's spec's what are the added benifits of the extra caps on the ESC going to be?

Not much really. Just will be that much better and stress the existing caps even less.

The stock MM esc worked great with the Neu 1506 motor no sign of cogging it looks like it's gona work in the CRT.5 I drove it for about 15min before I clipped my mailbox and broke a front turnbuckle perfect timming though I opened the mailbox and my Lundsford titanium turnbuckles were sitting inside.:D

Thats great. I am sure many others will start upgrading to higher end motors. Thats so funny about the mail box. What good luck. That would never happen to me, lol.

Yeah, I hate mailboxes. I got rid of mine.

You got rid of your mailbox? lol. It would be easier to just not hit it IMO. :) But, they do tend to jump in front of you.

Well here's an update after about a month running the Neu 1506 motor with the MM esc there has been no sign of the dreaded cogging issue.:cool:

Runtimes have been around 30min vers 20-25min with the 5700 MM with the 3s 4000ma pack.
Power the Neu motor is alot smoother and has more torque then the 5700 MM although the 5700 is a little faster the Neu accelerates quicker.:005:
Temps the Neu runs cooler around 130-50's compared to the 5700 at 150-70's. ESC temps with both motors is around 130-60's depending on outside temp and gear's. Battery temps have came down with the Neu motor to around 105-110deg the 5700 MM with the 3s 4000mah Maxamps pack got up to around 130 and melted the shrink wrap on the end of the pack a little running a larger pinion and usually ran around 110-120 my guess is the MM 5700 needs a little more amp capacity the 4000mah Maxamps pack is rated at 80a C so a 100a 5000 pack would be a better choice with the MM motors.:032:

Are the smaller Neus built the same way as their bigger brothers? AFAIK, the problem with Neus and the MM has to do with slotted rotors (what IS this anyway?) or sintered magnets.

I think the size of the motor makes a diference the magnetic force with the sloted rotors is a lot stronger with the 1515 compared to the 1506 Neu when you spin the rotor the 1515 is a lot harder to spin and you feel a lot more resistance then the 1506 motor this could be the cause of the cogging with the larger Neu's.:032:

The 1506 motor looks like it's built the same way as the larger Neu's visually.? It's the same diameter just shorter then the other 15 series motors.

Thats good to know, I just got an 1107/2y NEU and will try it on my mini quake with mamba 25. Compared to lehner 1020, the difference in motors is like a 1940 to a 2250