new traxxas motor
 

check out traxxas new motor, esc and 3 new brushless vehicles that claim to reach 70mph+

www.traxxas.com click on the giant v or go to products then electric

Welcome to the forums.

That stuff looks good for stock equipment, but the performance is nothing new to us. LOL.

I'm assuming that the 3400 motor means that it's a 3400kv motor. I like that alot. I didn't see anything that would indicate that the system is sensored, so I wonder if that motor will be compatible with the MM esc. On the other hand, I wonder if the traxxas esc is only rated to 3S because of the internal bec. Maybe an external bec would allow the use of 4S.

I hate to say it, but curiosity might get the better of me and I might just have to pick one of these up to see what it's all about.

I was really expecting Traxxas to come out with a new e-maxx or e-revo, but I also have to admit that this is pretty cool. I mean 70mph... Thats crazy!! And it comes stock like that!!

I wonder what the price for the whole thing will be though...

I highly doubt it'll do 70mph by only adding a 3S lipo pack and changing the pinion. I imagine you'd have to buy the anaconda tires to even have a chance of it being controllable.

At 3500KV (?) it would need more voltage or a biiiig gear to hit 70

Its probably a BIG gear.

Either way, from what I could see, performance was around Mamba Max level, and in an RTR, thats a huge step for the BL side of the hobby.

that motor looks just like a lrp vector, much more motoe, the tekin rediline to

lol, loks cool tho! i wish they would do a test drive!

Yeah, they look very nice and well built (end bell in particular)

I don't see the point in going 70mph in a Rusty though? useless? IMO :032: :eek:

Regardless, it is VERY nice to see brushless finally hitting mainstream R/C models! :027:

I doubt that it will run 4s even with no BEC. they have a built in over voltage protection that wont let it run on anything higher than what it rated for. Unless there is a way to hack the software I doubt it will run 4s from the sound of it.

What kind of BS is that?

The promising thing is that its rated for 200A continuous, and the on resistance is low, suggesting there is a good number of FETs. OTOH, traxxas is good at overselling thier products, so who knows.

Thats RTR BS. Preventing the clueless from frying it with a 5s pack and then whining.

The Acces section has a 31T pinion listed... ouch

Given that the specs are a 3S 20C 8000mah (160A) to do that, its going to be a huge amp hog. Still tho, they are claiming ~1000W+.

Wth is going on tho? Suddenly traxxas has the big amp BL ESC? Too bad the programming options look so limited else it could find its way into larger vehicles. All in all we'll still be waiting for a true BL MT esc.

Wonder what the CC/Tekin folks are thinking?

This esc can run both sensored and sensorless! How much for the complete cars?

I just emailed Traxxas about this.

When do they hit the stores?

Well, the XL stampede and rustler are $200 CAD, I think the BL version is prob going to be ~$350, just a guess. maybe they will sell it for less, as they have a lot of leverage with there R/C empire.

I bought an XL5 recently, to just play with but got bored with it and FLMed it, now i'm thinking 6s and XL1200 for it. I may get the stampede version and keep it stock and beat it into the ground

That is pretty that traxxas did that.. i was waitin' for a long time for this.. but it's almost useless to buy, they still have stock plastic gears...

160+ Amps.. maybe it's an MGM 12.160 in disguise?...

You guys talking about it doing either sensored or sensorless haven't seen the GM Genius 80 ESC, have you? It'll do either or as well and is already available for under $200. It doesn't have as high of a current rating, but if you're using a sensored motor, 200A doesn't matter since no sensored motors on the market pull that kind of juice.

Links to the GM-Racing products:

Motor:
http://shop.graupner.de/webuerp/servlet/AI?ARTN=97230
(Yes, this will run on a MM as a sensorless motor...confirmed by an employee of Team Orion who rebadges this motor to sell in the US)

ESC:
http://shop.graupner.de/webuerp/servlet/AI?ARTN=2894

IMO, the velineon isn't any better of a product that anything else currently on the market. Also, having to buy it as a combo only will severely hamper the sales of it to guys like us.

Plastic gears?

What plastic gears?

http://www.traxxas.com/products/elec...ny_cutaway.jpg

That's what Ebay chopshops are for :)

However, I have my doubts to whether this would be a good ESC for 1/8 use, but i wouldn't be suprized to learn a larger version is waiting in the wings. Still can't believe it was TRX to be the 1st to release a mainstream 200A BL esc for the car market. Shocking...:eek:

I agree.

I believe that the "Big Brushless" system destined for the E-Revo and freshened E-Maxx will be coming on the heels of this. That's all good news!

MSRP is 300

I don't know why it's hard to believe, Traxxas has done many firsts.

First real Monster Truck. First multi use electric MT. First MT that broke all the rules and could compete with Truggys.

The only other BL RTR out there was some Losi junk using Novak overstock systems that barely go faster than the stock brushed system.

Anybody have the diff part number? I want to pre-order one now.

Suprising b/c we've been waiting on the 200A MMM for over a year, heard and read about the Tekin R1MT, but still waiting on specs & release date, etc etc, but go home last night and all of a sudden TRX has a 70mph BL Rustler with a esc with current capabilities we've been dying for. Esp since they just did the XL5.

Of all the things on my list of "what can happen today?", that news fell somewhere below Anna Nicole arose from the dead and is dancing at the strip club, and peace breaks out in Iraq with sunshine, rainbows, democracy and candy.

70mph? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, lol.

rumor has it that Traxxas is building the BL ESCs & motors "in house". That means the reality of a MT capable BL system from Traxxas is not much of a stretch to believe.

Yeah, but who cares how much current it can do when it'll only do 3S that we know of? That's not real beneficial in most of our monster/8th applications.

Since when have you seen a Novak 5.5 with adjustable timing based on moving the hall sensor position? The GM/Orion/Peak all have that feature if they're run on a sensored ESC. Also, they can be run on a MM without issue, whereas the Novak is PIA on a MM. Besides, if Novak OEM'ed these motors for the other guys, they'd likely already be ROAR legal, which they are not, but built to ROAR specs. I can assure you they are completely different motors...just check out the spec sheets...tons of differences between them.

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/br..._chart_web.gif

http://www.graupner.de/fileadmin/dow...0121_97225.pdf

Just the kv difference alone is 7400 for the Novak 5.5 versus 6100 for the GM 5.5. That's more than a difference between loaded/unloaded.

That is a very nice tranny! The crawler guys will love it!
I'm still not too crazy about the motor mounted on plastic.

Skellyo, I'm not quite sure what you are getting at, but you seem to be misreading my posts.

The Novak comment was bc that motor looks just like a Velocity series motor, from the solder tabs to case design to other features. IE, it seems they are the supplier of the Novak motors built to Novak's spec. Not the other way around. Novak doesn't manufacture motors themselves that I know off, so would subcontract it out, and it looks to be GM based on your link. I always thought the velocity motors were high quality, just the ESC I was not a fan of and sold it off.

Castle does not manu their motors either, that's why you see them talking about searching for diff motors that can meet their spec. They even talked to Neu at some point, but abandoned the idea due to cost.

Otherwise, I didn't suggest this for MTs. Quite the contrary. However I was saying, if it was announced that someone would be releasing a 200A BL car ESC this week (first manstream ever produced!), what would have been the Vegas odds that it was TRX? No one saw this one coming...

Overall its a great development for the elec hobby and will only push BL more mainstream and force more competitive and capable controllers. Yeah for everyone.

All I was replying about was that you referred to it (the GM 5.5) as a Novak 5.5. It's possible they OEM them for Novak, but since they've been out less time than the Novak, I doubt it.

And I totally agree that I would not have thought Traxxas would have manufactured such an ESC. Heck, no one would have thought they'd find another way to squeeze life out of the old rusty/pede/bandit platforms yet again.

Actually, every brushless motor sold by Novak has been designed and built here in sunny California.

One of these new brushless VXL stampedes is exactly what I needed a year ago. Now all I need is that tranny. Just look at that trans. That exactly what we've been needing for the pedes and rusties. Wonder if they are using hardened steel planet gears in the diff now.

Yup, if you read about the differential, it says it has a steel gear ring with hardened steel planetary diff gears.

I am still in denial that TRX came out with a BL setup, especially a decent ESC, remembering all my experiences with the XL-1...:007:
The only question for me is: Should I just buy the diff and the BL system, or should I sell my current Rustler and get a whole new one...?

Brijar!!!

Yep, I'll be using some of their gearing in my Rusty project, tranny and diff. I do share Dafni's concern about the plastic motor mount though, so I'll be sticking with the planned FLM tranny housing. I'm hoping they release the parts as soon as they release the RTR models, sooner would be nice too.

Welcome to the forum! Now I think we almost have a full collection of representatives from the major BL manufacturers on this forum.

Well I swear the design has been cloned! Imitation is the best complement maybe? Tho I bet there is more to the story.:005:

NovakTwo, good to see you here.